Why does a master know there is no evil in the world ?

[jaideepv1234]

hey infinitthought...
i m impressed of ur question.........
and also the way u answer my query.it seems u r master of all this....
will u share it with me .if u dont mind then....
like how to reach our goals? how to reache towards a core issue?
what is thought ?waht is thought world?
i hope u will help me ...............
waiting for ur reply ........

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by jaideepv1234

hey infinitthought...
i m impressed of ur question.........
and also the way u answer my query.it seems u r master of all this....
will u share it with me .if u dont mind then....
like how to reach our goals? how to reache towards a core issue?
what is thought ?waht is thought world?
i hope u will help me ...............
waiting for ur reply ........

Hey Jaideepv.

1.
Thought is the mechanism to decide want you want from "infinity". "Infinity" is "no time".

You're in "infinity" all the "time". It's called the Now moment.
Teach yourself to Pay Attention to it. Your experiencing of the life you want...... depends on it.

"Concentrate on the now, and everything is taken care of."
(Elias channeled material link.)

(Religion and Psychology, as usual have it ass backwards. Your ego is there for a reason. Use it.)


2.
Teach yourself to see that your reality is literally generated moment to moment.

Re-read that.

To help you understand the concept. Reverse engineer what society tells you, namely that reality is created in the past.
Big mistake.

If it were continually being created in the past, then that makes you a machine. Cause how on earth could you choose anything??

3.
As I said above, thought is the "mechanism" to decide what you want, Intuition is letting the Holographic side of you give it to you.
Very important to see this.

The reason is, then you STOP trying to solve your problems by using Reasoning and start Trusting the other half of yourself.

So then Pay Attention to the Now, cause your Holographic side will be giving you clues.

Lots of clues !

The understanding of the balanced use of Thought and Intuition is the key.

Any questions or misunderstandings, let me know.
You'll get it.


BTW- I learn, by saying what I've learned.

[Parthon]

Wow. Your post just knocked me off my feet infinitethoughts.

I just saw that while we have free will, the only time we have free will is right now. We can't choose the past. We can't choose the future. The only thing we have is being able to exercise our will right here, right now. That's where everything lies, and stands.

Even though I've read The Power of Now many times, there's still more to be learnt. Thanks for the insight.

[dave marshall]

who cares?

[Ecce Homo]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

Because he knows there's no world (and no master either).

That pretty much sums it up.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Parthon

Wow. Your post just knocked me off my feet infinitethoughts.

I just saw that while we have free will, the only time we have free will is right now. We can't choose the past. We can't choose the future. The only thing we have is being able to exercise our will right here, right now. That's where everything lies, and stands.

Even though I've read The Power of Now many times, there's still more to be learnt. Thanks for the insight.

Thanks, Parthon.

The biggest insight for me was the word Intuition. In my universe it had negative connotations. (I guess the way I was raised, wasn't raised religious, but my (not living with us) half-sister was. She'd go on and on about Self-sacrifice for god, etc, etc.)

If I substitute the term, the other half of me, the Holographic side, it works.

Daily I'm learning more and more this existence really is a trip.

[dave marshall]

Hi ecco,

walk out of your house, come back and repot what you experience, then tell me there is no world. I agree that it may not be the world we thought or operate within the way we were taught, but please do report back on your experience.

dave

[Parthon]

I went outside and the Mailman told me that the world was just a projection of thought through energy into form so that consciousness can better grow and experience, but I think he was just telling me what I wanted to hear.

In the words of Albert Einstein -
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

The only nature of reality that we can assume is that we don't know the nature of reality. From there, we guess. That's why science is all theories.

Oh, and physics/chemistry is very fun. Tiny particles, unfathomably small, group together and use their powerful atomic forces to bounce little photons of light around causing them to look a lot bigger than they are. Even solid lead is 99.98% empty space between and in the atoms, and inside the protons, neutrons and electrons that make up the atom, there's more space. You think that's air you are breathing? You think you stand on solid ground and have a solid roof over your head? Definately not, it's just atomic forces fooling matter to look real. I'm glad more people don't know the truth behind the reality they live in, or they would be scared to death.

[infinitethoughts]

Dave.

Why does a master know there is no evil in the world ?

Because he knows Evil is in the mind of the Beholder.
Why is this important?

Cause it's showing every Being on this planet a truth.


Partheon.
Great explanation, by the way.

[jaideepv1234]

thank you very much infinitethoughts for ur very valuable teachings and links.

i feel i knowvery less about this intension manifestation.

will u suggest me some books or websites for to increase my knowledge more or deep......

which will help me to understand deeply....

really thank u
u cleared my many confused thoughts....

can i do PM to u?

i read about ''holographic view'' but......
to be very frankk with u...its all big ''bouncer'' for me....
what i have to undertand from that article is not clear for me.....
what the author wants to say ,is not clear to me....


will u explain me in simple language ...pls..........

how too see our holographic side and in what forms it gives us the clues?..

[Ecce Homo]

What's up Dave?

Originally Posted by dave marshall

Hi ecco,

walk out of your house, come back and repot what you experience, then tell me there is no world. I agree that it may not be the world we thought or operate within the way we were taught, but please do report back on your experience.

dave

Originally Posted by Parthon

In the words of Albert Einstein -
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

The only nature of reality that we can assume is that we don't know the nature of reality. From there, we guess. That's why science is all theories.

Again, perfect. The Universe "manifested" an excellent response. Thanks Uni!

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by jaideepv1234

how too see our holographic side and in what forms it gives us the clues?..

Keep it simple, Jaideep.
It's called your intuition. As a society we're taught to not pay attention to it.
Just pay attention to it. That's all.

Check out the channeled material from Elias. (You can google it.)
Lots of stuff there. Take your time with it.

[dave marshall]

Hi,

you have a clever mail man Parthon.

My issues (as usual) are based around balnket ideas that seem very philosophical, 'no world' 'everything is an illusion' types comments that are, in my experience, simply misleading. I presume that you did go outside and did find a world there ecco, we could debate the idea or nature of the wolrd of course but in essence there is a 'world' and you interact within it everyday, so to say there is 'no world' seems a bit pointless

Dave

[Ecce Homo]

Originally Posted by dave marshall

Hi,

you have a clever mail man Parthon.

My issues (as usual) are based around balnket ideas that seem very philosophical, 'no world' 'everything is an illusion' types comments that are, in my experience, simply misleading. I presume that you did go outside and did find a world there ecco, we could debate the idea or nature of the wolrd of course but in essence there is a 'world' and you interact within it everyday, so to say there is 'no world' seems a bit pointless

Dave

Well I wasn’t going to go here, but what the heck? Why not? I find it helpful to define our terms clearly in discussions like this. When you refer to the world that you are sure I found, what exactly do you mean? I’m assuming you have a very precise definition this "world" because you sound 100% certain that I not only found it when I stepped outside my door, but that I interact within it every day. In what way was Einstein misleading people when he uttered those words about reality being a persistent illusion? (If he in fact uttered those words.)

[dave marshall]

Hi,

i was not going here either but my point is still the same. We do experience a 'world' in some fashion. I cannot say what you experienced specifically but it probably involved some kind of physical experience, people, cars, trees, etc.

If you did experience a 'world' in some fashion then it does exist, in some fashion and to say the world does not exist seems a pointless idea. Mabye to define how the world exists is not pointless but to say there is 'no' world does not ring true.

In what way did einstein mislead people? We don't know if he said that but for me, with my experience is exploring these areas, the word illusion is not helpful unless placed in very clear context, einstein did not knwo everything and we do not know the context in which he was saying either!

dave

[bellemeadows]

I think the issue is perspective. If you see the world as whole, real and solid, then in your experience it is whole, real and solid. Not everyone sees the world this way; even scientists have found ways to see the world differently.

So, if you have one perspective (world is solid, evil is real and bad), can you see another perspective? The way the brain works, usually not.

The beauty of this forum is folks offer different perspectives, and if you are able, you have the opportunity to try them on for a moment, and see what you see. Einstein obviously saw things very differently from most of us; so we know that it is possible. The scarey thing about seeing things differently, is we all get soooo attached to our perspective being right. Because, of course, we see things that way, so it must be right.

Perhaps it is just a perspective. Not right, not wrong. Just a perspective.

Steve said there is no world. Well, what kind of perspective does he have that he could say such a thing? If you cannot see that, then it is different from your perspective. Is it right, or wrong. I don't know -- and perhaps that is the point -- to open to different perspectives, and see if perhaps, even for a moment we can catch a glimpse of a different perspective that resonates or calls to us.

I love the beauty of 'now'. Perspectives are merely our interpretation of our experience within each moment. If we can stop interpreting our experience, and merely experience our experience, God only knows what we might find there. To me, that is the real secret. To quit interpreting, and just experience. . . . I don't know about you, but my mind is more cluttered with beliefs than my house is with books (and I have a lot of books).

Anyway -- nothing profound to be found in this post -- just some Qs for fun. Blessings from Belle,

[Ecce Homo]

Originally Posted by dave marshall

to say the world does not exist seems a pointless idea. Mabye to define how the world exists is not pointless but to say there is 'no' world does not ring true.

Originally Posted by bellemeadows

I think the issue is perspective... So, if you have one perspective (world is solid, evil is real and bad), can you see another perspective... Steve said there is no world. Well, what kind of perspective does he have that he could say such a thing...

I think Belle said it best. You find phrases like “there is no world” pointless and untrue. You forgot to add, “for you”. If you find these types of ideas useless, then perhaps you should try to get into the mindset of those who say such things. Why would anyone take that perspective? Can you imaginatively step into Steve’s shoes for instance, try to understand why he said that, why it makes sense to him? And Steve isn't the only one spouting such meaningless drivel. As I suspect you already know, there are a host of sages and teachers and just plain insightful folk who make very similar mad statements. There is a method to their madness. There's a praxis, a way of thinking and internal examination which inevitably leads one to see why the phrase “there is no world” makes complete sense. And from that place, one can easily see why the master knows that ultimately there is no evil, no good, and no master. If you're interested, find a method or practice, swallow the red pill, jump down the rabbit hole, and see how this might possibly make sense in Steve's mind. This is, of course, if you’re interested in seeing for yourself where this kind of understanding comes from. If you’re only interested in “correction”… well I have only question: why bother? You know you can't change another's mind. And if you already know all of this, then again, why bother pointing out the pointlessness of someone else's post?

[Sukie]

Because I am the master of my own soul and I know that there is no good or evil there are only choices and consequences.

Sukie
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