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Old 02-20-2008, 03:16 AM
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I am having trouble with the character seth II and how he says that he has never physically incarnated WHILE seth freely speaks of his previous incarnations. What does immortality mean for Seth?? Is it the same for us?? am i asking too many questions??

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Who is seth II?
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What Seth is speaking of are his previous awarenesses. This does not mean him having incarnated on our level of existence.

There are several different dimensions occurring simultaneously on this planet as well as one other planets. He may have lived as a conscious being on another plane of our own planet, or been a singular consciousness on what we think of as other planets. Yet he would not necessarily be able to call that "incarnation" in the way the we understand it.

All lives, all spirits, all awarenesses come form one conscious Source, which I call the ALL. As everything that ever was has come from this conscious energy Source and we remain always a part of this Source, we are ever-living or, immortal.

Even as we change through different forms in different lifetimes and accumulate our lessons, we are still a living and conscious part of the ALL.

When we have ascended to higher vibration and higher awareness, we return to that Source, and yet we still are conscious. Thus we are eternal life, always.

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thanks mate, seth is way different to abraham aye, it seems that even they might not agree on certain things
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They're not really very different, as far as I can see. In fact, Jerry and Esther Hicks were fans of Seth, before they ever met Abraham. Seth was really their educational path to Abraham.

I would say that the difference between Seth and Abraham is that in Seth's material, there is much more discussion and exploration of reality in other dimensions, esoteric points about the nature of consciousness, that sort of thing. Whereas Abraham focused much more on how to create in this present physical reality of ours; how to think about various practical issues and common problems that people have.
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abraham says that the "law of attraction" is the most powerful law in the universe, I mean come on
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I am having trouble with the character seth II and how he says that he has never physically incarnated WHILE seth freely speaks of his previous incarnations. What does immortality mean for Seth?? Is it the same for us?? am i asking too many questions??
From what I remember of reading the Seth material, 18 years ago or so, is that Seth is a 'future' version of the channeler, Jane Roberts.

However, the term 'future' is misleading, as all these different versions of a person apparently co-exist and have their own souls and separate lives.

Seth II is a super advanced being, a super soul, perhaps the original version of Seth/Jane Roberts.

What I can't quite get my head around in Seth's teaching is that at any point in time, when you make a decision, a new version of you is literally created with body and soul which goes on its way.

So, for example, if you were standing at a crossroads and considered which road to take, a number of versions of you would immediately be created, and each one would go off in their chosen direction.
You are currently, consciously focused as one version moving in one direction. So, all possibilities exist and are valid.

Imagine how incredibly complicated this would soon become - each version of you then going on to make more decisions and creating more versions, plus the effects of interacting with the different versions of other people (including yourself) who are making decisions as well.

Within a short space of time, there would be millions of versions of you!
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abraham says that the "law of attraction" is the most powerful law in the universe, I mean come on
Yup, as I said, it's all quite similar to Seth, who explains that your reality is created by your own thoughts. A quote from Seth, via Wikipedia:

Jane Roberts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

""You must watch the pictures that you paint with your imagination, for you allow your imagination too full a reign. If you read our early material, you will see that your environment and the conditions of your life at any given time are the direct result of your own inner expectations. You form physical materializations of these realities within your own mind.

"If you imagine dire circumstances, ill health, or desperate loneliness, these will be automatically materialized, for these thoughts themselves bring about the conditions that will give them reality in physical terms. If you would have good health, then you must imagine this as vividly as in fear you imagine the opposite.

"You create your own difficulties. This is true for each individual. The inner psychological state is projected outward, gaining physical reality -- and this regardless of the nature of the psychological state. ... The rules apply to everyone. You can use them for your own benefit and change your own conditions once you realize what they are.

"You cannot escape your own attitudes, for they will form the nature of what you see. Quite literally you see what you want to see; and you see your own thoughts and emotional attitudes materialized in physical form. If changes are to occur, they must be mental and psychic changes. These will be reflected in your environment. Negative, distrustful, fearful, or degrading attitudes toward anyone work against the self."[4]"
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From what I remember of reading the Seth material, 18 years ago or so, is that Seth is a 'future' version of the channeler, Jane Roberts.
From what I remember of reading the Seth material, Seth had simply met and known Jane Roberts in a previous life/plane of existence. Not that they were versions of each other,

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What I can't quite get my head around in Seth's teaching is that at any point in time, when you make a decision, a new version of you is literally created with body and soul which goes on its way.

So, for example, if you were standing at a crossroads and considered which road to take, a number of versions of you would immediately be created, and each one would go off in their chosen direction.
Yup. Quantum physicist Hugh Everitt basically developed the same theory. It's called the Many Worlds interpretation.

Many-worlds interpretation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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From what I remember of reading the Seth material, 18 years ago or so, is that Seth is a 'future' version of the channeler, Jane Roberts.

However, the term 'future' is misleading, as all these different versions of a person apparently co-exist and have their own souls and separate lives.

Seth II is a super advanced being, a super soul, perhaps the original version of Seth/Jane Roberts.

What I can't quite get my head around in Seth's teaching is that at any point in time, when you make a decision, a new version of you is literally created with body and soul which goes on its way.

So, for example, if you were standing at a crossroads and considered which road to take, a number of versions of you would immediately be created, and each one would go off in their chosen direction.
You are currently, consciously focused as one version moving in one direction. So, all possibilities exist and are valid.

Imagine how incredibly complicated this would soon become - each version of you then going on to make more decisions and creating more versions, plus the effects of interacting with the different versions of other people (including yourself) who are making decisions as well.

Within a short space of time, there would be millions of versions of you!

I would say the versions of you would be egos, whom think they have taken different paths. where the soul is your true Consciousness

ACIM says it best how we have thought what ifs and are stuck in this endless pattern.


Also abraham says we are electricity and seth also mentions thats theres a electric universe , I dont understand that bit ??


BTW Thanks to Acting Like Godot for helping me and others out by explaining things kudos
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