Ask Real Jesus dot com

[responsibility]

Ask Real Jesus

Apparently Jesus is speaking through a medium named Kim. He speaks of how Christianity has changed over the past 2000 years to the point where it's gone to shambles and that his original message had been lost. This 'real Jesus' speaks about the truth behind his teachings and about the nature of God. He answers questions from the audience and squashes a lot of myths and lies taught by modern Christianity.

As far as I've read so far, it looks like the real deal. He goes to great depths in his explanations and articles, and a lot of his teachings relate to modern spirituality. It won't hurt to have a look if your skeptical at first.

[Old Soul]

The Billboard Jesus

There stands a billboard Jesus
with his eyes turned to the skies
Praying to his father
whose truth is rejected for a lie
The man in the pulpit
incased in his stone tower
shouts and screams of damnation
with a mighty fist of power
The family's who believe in God
and want to live his ways
Have left the congregations
dissolusioned and led astray
The Gold plated trinkets
that come from the Holy lands
Will never be found in these sinners hands
They don't know this Jesus
the tv preachers portray
or do they know this Jesus
found in most churches today
Although they might not know this Jesus
They know who he is not
The Jesus these families believe in
has been rejected and forgot....



Luke 17:25

But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation


*If the message coming through this medium Kim, and the message says that Jesus would be rejected then it is worth listening too*

[Chado2423]

How many "real Jesus'" are out there, how many "mediums" are there... even the Bible forewarns of false prophets.

[Akashic_Librarian]

Whether its actually jesus (I doubt it) or just a really spiritual person...the message is still the same: Very good.

That site is wonderful...a bit "glossy" when it comes to the science part but none the less, the heart is there...

I like it.

Two thumbs up from the Akashic_LIbrarian!

EDIT: The True Name of God

I quite like the above anwe, quite profound really.

[Old Soul]

How many "real Jesus'" are out there, how many "mediums" are there... even the Bible forewarns of false prophets.

doesn't matter how many , what matters is that the bible is revealing truth , and that is what it is all about ....

[Ree]

I also like this site very much. A lot of what I read really resonates with me and I believe it's the real deal.

[qiflow]

Hello,

Be careful with this site. It looks like a legit site when you first get into it, but use your discernment carefully.

When I came upon questions about homosexuality on the site, I was a little disturbed to find that this Jesus believes that homosexuality is unnatural and not created by God. Granted, people have the right to believe what they want, but I expected something a little more compassionate and loving from a true Jesus. There is a reason homosexuality was declared to not be a disease by the American Psychological Association.

Take a look at these two links:

Real Jesus, is your view on homosexuality wrong?
Real Jesus, The spiritual cause of homosexuality

Think about your own beliefs on this issue, and come to your own conclusion.

Note that I couldn't find these pages through the main site anymore. I had to do a Google search. I imagine they raised a lot of controversy, especially with the spiritual types that would read this site, so maybe the links were removed. Please let me know if I am mistaken and you can get to those pages from the main site.

Another page that I found a little funny was this one:

Real Jesus, Be here below, all that you are above

In this page he says that the golden rule was for the past two millennia, but that the new golden rule for the next two millennia is: "Be here below, all that you are above". However, he takes over 3000 words to say this. I think this statement is a good guideline. At the same time, the golden rule is about simple kindness, and I don't think kindness ever goes out of date.

Notice that on most answers he gives, he is very verbose and wordy, often going on for several pages on a simple point. When you look back on what was actually said, there was not too much of real substance. He doesn't tend to just give a straight to the point answer. This is how politicians talk when you watch them on Meet the Press.

I have found that the truth is usually pretty simple, and does not need a lot of verbiage.

Take a look at this Bible passage (Matthew 22:34-40):
"Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?" And [Jesus] said to him, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it: 'You shall love you neighbor as yourself.' On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets."

I do not consider myself a Christian, but I think this is one of the highest and simplest teachings I have seen. How many people are doing this today? You can spend your whole life working on this one teaching.

I would love to hear people's thoughts. Peace.

[responsibility]

qiflow have a look at these quotes below from the article: Real Jesus, Why is the Jesus on this website not like the loving New Age Jesus?

Should we be “loving” and not challenge people’s illusions, or should we do the only thing that can help people grow, namely challenge their illusions? If you prefer the former, you are not yet teachable for a true spiritual teacher and will make yourself a follower of the false teachers who will – to the end of time – tell you what you want to hear.

The reality is that humankind needs true spiritual teachers precisely because for a long time they have been following the false teachers. As part of our job, the true spiritual teachers must expose the false teachers and their teachings. Doing so is not unloving—it is the highest form of love. Allowing people to remain in their ignorance and illusion would be truly unloving.

[Pegasus]

I viewed the Real Jesus answer regarding abortion. It seemed consistent with what Erin wrote about the issue, though if I recall correctly, Erin was not in favor of outlawing the practice. I noticed that men were not mentioned at all (only "exploitation of women"). What to do when birth control fails?

[qiflow]

Hello responsibility,

I definitely agree that it is loving to challenge the illusions of others, as long as you are really trying to help them out. That is why I wrote my post. To caution people to use their critical thinking when using that site.

I also think that yes, Jesus would be loving. Not necessarily New Age. If you believe that he spoke what was written in the "great commandment" in the Bible, love was the most important part of his teaching.

Peace.

[ChefSalad]

Having read most of the channeled material available, I must say that I agree with qiflow on this one. Use your discernment. This real Jesus seems to be quite loving but his ego shows through so often it's not even funny and not everything he says is with love. I've seen similar things in certain other channelings, and they always make me distrust them.

My discernment tells me that this "real Jesus" probably is not the real thing, unfortunately. He does have some important truths, however. Like his teachings on (of all things) discernment. His recomendations on spiritial protection also seem valid when he gives it away, although perhaps a bit wordy and lawyerly. At other times, he seems like a salesman for the website's products.

Other channelings like from Abraham, Ra, and Seth, tend to radiate only love (and from Abraham at least, extreme passion). I trust these more. The Ra material, I think, may have some things designed to provoke subtle fear, and I don't like those things, but the rest seems quite good. The Seth stuff also seems quite good, although Abraham resonates with me best.

My only concern about Abraham is that sometimes the teachings focus more on self and less on loving others, but I think that's because to love others we must first love ourselves. When they talk about loving others, the passion of love for others really comes through, and is quite moving.

Well, that's enough focus on the bad of all this. Time to get back to more positive thoughts.

[SuperManny]

Originally Posted by ChefSalad

Other channelings like from Abraham, Ra, and Seth, tend to radiate only love (and from Abraham at least, extreme passion). I trust these more. The Ra material, I think, may have some things designed to provoke subtle fear, and I don't like those things, but the rest seems quite good. The Seth stuff also seems quite good, although Abraham resonates with me best.

Now there are some good teachers! Maybe I'd add Orin, too, but these 3 have definitely had a major impact on my life at one time or another. I like Abraham for the more physical stuff, while the Seth material is a bit more inclusive, but Ra is so far out on the spiritual side that I have to be in the mood to get into it. BTW if you like the Ra teachings, check out the forums at divinecosmos.com.

Now that I can find all the RealJesus answers, I wonder where I could get the FakeJesus' answers on abortion and homosexuality, etc.

[responsibility]

Even if it's not really the real Jesus, the site is still definitely one of the largest and interesting spiritual-based sites out there. Of course that's just my opinion.

One of the interesting articles I found on the site is when 'Real Jesus' comments on the Seth Material as well as other channeled info. He says that Seth and these other non-physical entities are beings that haven't yet transcended past the mental plane. and that while their teachings are of good intent and are helpful, it's only part of the full picture. (Article 1, Article 2)

I've read a lot of great Abraham-hicks' material. But I've noticed it only focuses on the material side of life, and states that we reincarnate life after life for the sole purpose of enjoying physical life. Yet when a mystic like Robert Bruce ventured into one of the spirit worlds, he said the experience was so intensely joyful, that it made physical life look like a vague, tired dream (more about his experience here).

But then comes the question as to why we're in the physical to begin with and why we would reincarnate in the physical if we could live in a world like that.

'Real Jesus' mentioned that the Earth used to be a platform of high vibrations where new souls would help co-create with God. But then came the fall of man, where the inhabitants started to doubt and lowered their consciousness thus lowering the vibration of Earth (full story here).

It's definitely an interesting concept. 'Real Jesus' says that the reason we're on Earth right now is because we need to transcend our level of consciousness to the point of Christ consciousness or enlightenment. And that until we are able to see past the illusion of separation and become non-attached to the things of this world, we won't be able to stay in the higher spirit realms.

I think I need a rest from all this thinking.

[nishthawalli]

I agree with Qiflow. I liked 1 or 2 answers on this web-site so i thought I would explore more. But on reaching his views on Homosexuality, abortion, sex, I was quite shocked. He seems to be toeing the orthodox line. His views were quite critical and judgmental. After reading other loving channels' like kryon, Seth, Abraham, The Group, Gaia etc, this was really shocking coming from well 'Real Jesus''. And he has just dubbed these channels as as belonging to the 'mental realm' though he does this quite subtly.

Compare Kryon views on Homosexuality and this channel. or even a Buddhist teacher who says that ultimately all types of sexuality (Home, Hetero etc) would be transcended in due course instead on condeming Homosexuality only.

And I have never seen other new age channelors putting other channelors down this way though he does it quite subtly. Their teachings are so much more loving & non-judgemental.

[jn15]

First of all, the Bible warns against the use of mediums (Leviticus 19:31, Leviticus 20:27, Deuteronomy 18:10-13, 1 Chronicles 10:13-14, 2 Chronicles 33:6).

Second, Jesus’ teachings were not that He was one of many ways. It was that He was the ONLY way (John 14:6).

Jesus did not come to bring peace but division (Matthew 10:34-39). That wouldn’t make sense for someone claiming that we are all one.

Third, Jesus died for our sins (Matthew 28, Mark 15, Luke 23, John 19) Why would someone who understood we are all one do that? It wouldn’t make sense, because there is no such thing as sin in the first place.

Fourth, the earliest disciples-those who knew and walked with Jesus-all claimed that He was the only way. There are too many verses to list to support this-read the book of Acts. Christianity hasn’t changed-the earliest Christians clearly believed Him to be the only way.

[Dave Plaza]

Hmmm,

I ask myself, if it is the real Jesus, then why not just appear in the flesh instead of hiding behind some website?!? I don't want to bad mouth the site as I haven't fully checked it out, but the first thing I noticed when I clicked on was the donate via paypal button... Didn't feel very loving to me... Maybe the site has a good positive vibe, but it has to have that if it wants to sell itself... Good luck to it anyway.

[supertom]

Firstly this thread is 3 years old.

Why not just channel jesus yourself instead of relying on second hand information.

[Jane Doe]

ha. this is three years old!

i checked out the site though. it is written as if the "medium" sat down and interviewed jesus. pretty funny.

[theuprising]

Originally Posted by Old Soul

doesn't matter how many , what matters is that the bible is revealing truth , and that is what it is all about ....

LIES! HERETIC! Only the Quran is the true path!

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by jn15

Second, Jesus’ teachings were not that He was one of many ways. It was that He was the ONLY way (John 14:6).

dogma literealist take on that verse.

Fourth, the earliest disciples-those who knew and walked with Jesus-all claimed that He was the only way. There are too many verses to list to support this-read the book of Acts. Christianity hasn’t changed-the earliest Christians clearly believed Him to be the only way.

What did Jesus really want us to follow? Was he really saying that others that are not doing a specific dogma should be rejected and told they will rot in hell? Is that what the loving message of Jesus is? Sounds more like a twisted up man derived dogma religion control freak thing.

[jn15]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

dogma literealist take on that verse.


What did Jesus really want us to follow? Was he really saying that others that are not doing a specific dogma should be rejected and told they will rot in hell? Is that what the loving message of Jesus is? Sounds more like a twisted up man derived dogma religion control freak thing.

So what do you believe Jesus was saying?

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by jn15

So what do you believe Jesus was saying?

drat - login timmed out.

'I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father, except through me. If you know me, you will know my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.'

Jesus speaks from oneness or love.

I am the way - Love is the way.

Through me - through oneness.

If you know love you know oneness.