Brainwave Entrainment

[4Mind4Life]

For those familiar, what do you all think about brainwave entrainment and consciousness? Do you believe that brainwave entrainment + meditation is an effective way to heighten your awareness & "awaken your mind?"

[Groundless]

From my experience with Holosync so far, I would say yes.

H/S + I Am Now + Wei Wu Wei = a significantly different person than I was before.

[evelynlim]

From my daily practice and what I read about the science behind "brain entrainment", the answer is yes!

[estrella]

Originally Posted by evelynlim

From my daily practice and what I read about the science behind "brain entrainment", the answer is yes!

Groundless wrote: Groundless From my experience with Holosync so far, I would say yes.

H/S + I Am Now + Wei Wu Wei = a significantly different person than I was before.

1) Well, what do you use? Centerpointe, or sth else? I would just like to know and hear about that openly whereelse than on forums of Centerpointe or so.

2) I would say that it may (and must, since it's physics) be effective. On the other side, I'm wondering to which point it may be pushed. I think it may be pushed far, but how far, that's the question. Perhaps just that far you want to go. What do you seek? Just happiness? Then it will lead to that, but not further.

As I wrote elsewhere:
"Why do we want to succeed, what is the intention? Do we have a view behind that all, where we want to go?
I think that the view: “I want to be happy and in peace with all around me and my life”, is not enough. At least, for me, it’s not enough! I want to know that I go somewhere, somewhere really meaningfull and not only to “happiness”.
I find that on some blogs you find about “rising consciousness” etc, there is much talk about just that, “rising consciousness”. That talk about “I want to be more aware, to be peacefull etc” seems very egoistic to me. And it would never be enough for me. But it is also not enough, I think, to just turn to other people in order “to do good to them”. I see there is something behind that (the inner and outer world, me and “them”,) or connecting that. And to attain *this*, is my goal, nothing else."

I think brainwaves cannot do the ultimate step. I think they are able to help you arise your awareness, but not as far as some seem to think. Because the ultimate step, and this is my opinion for now, is in your willingness.

[Brutha]

1) Well, what do you use? Centerpointe, or sth else? I would just like to know and hear about that openly whereelse than on forums of Centerpointe or so.

2) I would say that it may (and must, since it's physics) be effective. On the other side, I'm wondering to which point it may be pushed. I think it may be pushed far, but how far, that's the question.

Brainwave Entertainment certainly has physical effects if done right, here are people online that claim that there are Brainwave Entertainment that don't work because the people who make them don't understand enough about the technology.
On the other hand it's not the magic pill that Centerpoint suggests it is.
There is also no independent research that suggests that buying every few month a new CD with a lower frequency has any positive effects.
I personally find the forums at Transparent Corporation a good source to inform yourself about the technology.

[Groundless]

I use Centerpointe Holosync and it has worked and is still working: 4-1/2 years down, approx 3-4 more to go. It is effective for me and would likely be for you.

***As I wrote elsewhere:
"Why do we want to succeed, what is the intention? Do we have a view behind that all, where we want to go?***

My intention was to get rich. I chased it for a while, went through a LOT of self-help stuff. I started (gasp) with Tony Robbins and Napoleon Hill way way back and evolved from there. I no longer have any desire to chase money or enlightenment. There is only right now and it is perfectly perfect.

***I think that the view: “I want to be happy and in peace with all around me and my life”, is not enough. ***

And for now, for you, it isn't.

***At least, for me, it’s not enough! I want to know that I go somewhere, somewhere really meaningfull and not only to “happiness”.***

Even chasing happiness is an attachment and a desire. Desire leads to suffering........

***That talk about “I want to be more aware, to be peacefull etc” seems very egoistic to me. And it would never be enough for me. ***

If you think you are the body, that is egoistic. If you think you are the mind, that is egoistic.

***But it is also not enough, I think, to just turn to other people in order “to do good to them”. I see there is something behind that (the inner and outer world, me and “them”,) or connecting that. And to attain *this*, is my goal, nothing else."***

There is only this moment. And this moment. This fan on my computer whirring. This sound of me typing.

***I think brainwaves cannot do the ultimate step. ***

Thinking will not get you over the threshhold. Experiencing may.

***I think they are able to help you arise your awareness, but not as far as some seem to think. Because the ultimate step, and this is my opinion for now, is in your willingness.***

If you listen to 8+ years of holosync and pay the silly expensive sum to do it, I'd say you are willing to some extent. Apparently some are able to be enlightened by asking the question "who am I?" over and over. Or stating "I am" and seeing the reaction.

I would also ask, how do you know? Until you have tried, how do you know?

[estrella]

Originally Posted by Groundless

If you listen to 8+ years of holosync and pay the silly expensive sum to do it, I'd say you are willing to some extent. Apparently some are able to be enlightened by asking the question "who am I?" over and over. Or stating "I am" and seeing the reaction.

I would also ask, how do you know? Until you have tried, how do you know?

Thank you for your answer. Beside the fact that you seem not to have understood "my point" (which may be caused by my poor expression), it gives me nevertheless some great insights, perhaps not the ones you might - yes - think.

"Until you have tried" - you do not know whether I tried.

thanks again.

[4Mind4Life]

Definitely. I currently use and endorse via affiliate Transparentcorp's Neuro-Programmer 2 Professional...They also have some very helpful forums!

Originally Posted by Brutha

Brainwave Entertainment certainly has physical effects if done right, here are people online that claim that there are Brainwave Entertainment that don't work because the people who make them don't understand enough about the technology.
On the other hand it's not the magic pill that Centerpoint suggests it is.
There is also no independent research that suggests that buying every few month a new CD with a lower frequency has any positive effects.
I personally find the forums at Transparent Corporation a good source to inform yourself about the technology.

[SunnKali]

Originally Posted by 4Mind4Life

For those familiar, what do you all think about brainwave entrainment and consciousness? Do you believe that brainwave entrainment + meditation is an effective way to heighten your awareness & "awaken your mind?"

I've used Jeffrey Thompson's audios before I discovered Centerpoint. I do think they helped me develop deeper levels of meditation than sitting quietly on my own. One of my favorites for heightening awareness, is Jeffrey Thompson's Awakened Mind.

I was several levels into Centerpoints program when I developed a severe case of overwhelm where I felt a need to set them aside. That was 8 years ago. I have continued with other brainwave entrainment programs. I recently stared using Kelly Howell's Brain-Sync programs and I've really enjoyed my experiences with them.

[4Mind4Life]

Very interesting. Thank you for sharing your experience!

[Theist]

Hello everyone

I have discovered this forum in my search to find someone who is using the "Meditation Solution". I would like to find out what they think of it.

I am on the Centerpointe "Holosync" prog at the moment (AL1 D3) and am considering jumping ship as the price is very high.

Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance

[Marco Polo]

I have used entrainment to help me sleep better, and the effects have been immediate and also very noticable.

But when it comes to seeking a different state of consciousness, I don't put much trust in it. There are other ways, including meditation, that are much more effective. Entrainment isn't that different from drugs, when you think about, since you're relying on something external to achieve results.

WHen it comes to changing my state of mind, I want the resources to be available to me whether I'm in the comfort of my room or trapped in a cave without my iPod. As soon as I can sleep well without the entrainment, I will stop using it immediately.

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by Marco Polo

I have used entrainment to help me sleep better, and the effects have been immediate and also very noticable.

But when it comes to seeking a different state of consciousness, I don't put much trust in it. There are other ways, including meditation, that are much more effective. Entrainment isn't that different from drugs, when you think about, since you're relying on something external to achieve results.

So the Holosync cd's dont always work faster and better than meditation,as they claim?

[/QUOTE]WHen it comes to changing my state of mind, I want the resources to be available to me whether I'm in the comfort of my room or trapped in a cave without my iPod. As soon as I can sleep well without the entrainment, I will stop using it immediately.[/QUOTE]

I want that too,and i thought the Holosync cd's train you to be able to reach that anytime you want,without listening to them? Or is that something you can only do after paying the full amount and listening to ALL the cd's for a few years?

[Theist]

I have been using the Holosync programme for over 8 months now and it has proved to work as they say so far. They do say that the results are permanent but I wont know if that is true until I stop.

I have experienced some of the symptoms they say you may experience e.g. Extreme boredom which is your subconcious's way of trying to make you quit as it does not want to change its ways. (I managed to stick it out regardless). Strong surges of energy and deep meditation.

According to other users I have found on other forums the first major breakthrough seems to happen around Awakening level 4 to Purification level 1 on average (approx 2yrs) although everyone is different and will get different results at different times.

I personally think it will work as it says but that is just my opinion. It is a long process but you get permanent results along the way (so they say). I have ordered the Meditation Solution programme now as I have heard good reports and it is about a tenth of the price!

Try Powerfulintentions.com for more opinions and then choose how much you want to pay.

Hope this helps.