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12-23-2007, 12:38 AM
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 do you guys ever think this is all in your head? sometimes, i think that this is all in my head and im gonna wake up in a second and think this was all just a realy vivid amd maybe lucid dream. write back if you know what i mean.      |
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12-23-2007, 01:04 AM
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 I know exactly what you mean. I feel like that all the time. I guess I just dislike my life so much, that I wish it weren't real. If my whole life is a lie, then all the suffering I've experience is also a lie. When did you start feeling like this? And what made you start thinking that it is all a dream? Did anything happen that made you think like that? Last edited by SecretSeven : 12-23-2007 at 01:11 AM. |
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12-23-2007, 02:00 AM
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| dreaming reality I used to live in a dream world, then I woke up to find it was a bloody nightmare. I believe the nightmare is real (physical) and true, but are we creating it from a dream? If so, then why would we dream ourselves so much suffering? The answer would lie in the effect your suffering has on you and others? How has it affected your sense of who you are? Quote:
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12-23-2007, 02:06 AM
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| hmmm... it all started when i met and became freinds with some one,and he asked me the same question, then i noticed that i always had wondered that. its weird, like the whole world and everyone you know isnt real and everything you know is in youre head, but then that led me to think, just because its in youre head, doesnt mean its not real. and about that bad life stuff, i kow what that feels like, and i have my ups and downs too, but hang in there and play game, realy the only thing thats kept me alive until now is quriosity and fear of the unkown, you know, whats after death, but then i found out about astral projection and i feel whole, and more right in life, its realy weird, and it led me on to be more daring and stand up for myself more, because now im not scared of death, im waiting for it, you should get into it too.but hang in there man.if life gives you lemons, make lemonade, and if life gives you ****, make manouir. |
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12-23-2007, 02:22 AM
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| Do you still think it's all a dream? |
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12-23-2007, 02:28 AM
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 ya sometimes. its a very depressing feeling too. |
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12-23-2007, 02:43 AM
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| I guess we'll only find out when we die lol. For me it isn't depressing. It's exciting. It's like a big mystery that I have to solve. But other times I feel like it's just wishful thinking. |
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12-23-2007, 03:16 AM
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12-23-2007, 04:53 AM
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12-23-2007, 05:59 AM
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| Live in the moment Sometimes we ponder too much about our past. It is good to clear our past and get back to our true selves. But once we get back, we should live in the moment so that we will not be overly anxious about the future or keep living in the past and create a reality that is a result of the past. |
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12-23-2007, 06:18 AM
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| I believe that life is a dream, but we aren't the dreamers. We are the avatars of the dreamer, the dreamer being source. From the dreamer comes everything, and from everything returns the dream. It curls into itself causing feedback and stability. Things happen according to a pattern, according to the rules of the dream. The universe, life and everything is just a pattern of form in the matrix of the dream. This form is temporary and is kept alive by the illusion of time, which is created by the dreamer to have form exist. Form and time are interwoven, they cannot be seperated. With form comes beginning and end, birth and death. Death is only a part of form, you can't kill the dream. Source can't wake up either, because source is everything, so you don't have to worry about everything disappearing, and if it did, you wouldn't know. We exist as avatars of the dream of source incarnated in form to experience. Death is not death but the unbinding of awareness from form. Death is nothing to be afraid of, it is bound with time. The only thing timeless is the dream and to connect to the dream you have to become timeless. The only way to become timeless is to remove the past and future from yourself, which means becoming present and totally aware and encompassed in the present moment. Once you are there you are timeless and connected with source. You now have all of reality to deal with whatever is going on right now as the avatar of source dreaming reality into existance so that you can experience growth through the interwoven threads of form and time. The only question is, what do you want to do with it? |
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12-24-2007, 08:01 AM
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| I too had these thoughts, and still have. It comes close to solipsism, but it even goes beyond that. For me it doesn't feel really depressing, but it feels lonely though. When this is all a dream, that means we are the only one "really" here.... But then I get to the point, ok let's say this is a dream, then everything is unreal so I can just do what I want. So why ain't I living my ass off and not caring about others? |
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12-24-2007, 08:15 PM
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 hmm good point, but i dont think im gonna try anything stupid until i know this is a dream, until then, im gonna ride the wind. |
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12-24-2007, 11:26 PM
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But, actually, it doesn't matter if you consider what you experience is real or unreal. What matters, is that you experience it. If you understand it and see through it, life will take on a totally new meaning. |
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12-26-2007, 07:19 PM
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Before I started really considering the idea of a subjective reality, I would have classed myself as firmly believing in a physical objective reality. I'm probably still about half there, at least in the way I behave, most of the time. Placing a different lens, as Steve would say, and viewing things with a different mindset has lead to a lot of very interesting insights for myself. What I've found is that it isn't a thing I can just switch on and off. When it gets to the whole law of attraction stuff, I find that it's necessary to "peel back" layers of belief, only the first of which is how I view the reality I'm experiencing. What I'm finding is that each layer forms a foundation upon which the layers above it are based. Simply saying reality is real or it's not only leads to another layer which has to be teased apart to make sense of the "reality layer." In some ways, it's a bit of a geometric progression, in terms of complexity, since starting from the idea that it /is/ real leads to a different type of layer than saying it's subjective. And so on, and so on, and so on. Hopefully this doesn't seem like so much blithering. Thanks. |
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12-26-2007, 08:26 PM
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| yes yes dumbledores wise words have touched me |
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12-26-2007, 09:09 PM
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| If you believe in subjective reality - Everything is in your head. I only exist for as long as you believe I exist. As soon as you stop thinking about me, I poof out of existence. Only you are real. |
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12-26-2007, 10:47 PM
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What you're describing sounds a lot like solipsism, which I have to admit is not a philosophical system I was terribly familiar with by name until I saw some of Steve's posts on the distinction between solipsism and subjective reality. He had a couple of really good posts on the subject which I think did a good job of laying out what the differences were and why he can accept subjective reality, but not solipsism. Trying not to sound too fan-boy, but Steve's stuff has been hitting on a lot of things that I've been working through in the last year or two. |
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12-26-2007, 11:35 PM
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 wow DOyou all think that this is in youre head? |
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12-27-2007, 10:35 AM
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__________________ This very moment is the perfect teacher, and lucky for us, it's with us wherever we go. -- Pema Chodron |
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12-27-2007, 12:17 PM
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What have you EVER known, believed or understood about the universe, that was not a form of knowledge, belief or understanding ... that is, a state of your own mind? |