Why God Sent Jesus

[BladeRunner]

While it's a nice bedtime story, why did God send Jesus?

For the same reason you sent yourself.

Within SR (bladerunners version 1.0) you're essentially god and have used your god powers to make yourself powerless. You're the creator of everything (but only that within awareness) and you play the human-being-on-a-planet game until you tire of it.

Imagine being something that is eternal, and formless. That's a tough position to experience from, but as formlessness (energy) you can become anything and basically everything.

So as god you create an experience that seems stable and has many different structures to it which is everything formed including other people. But how do you create everything in existance instantly all the time??

You don't.

It looks like that, but it's an illusion. You don't have to create 7 billion people and all the universe, all you have to do is render only anything within present moment awareness. The universe isn't big at all, it's actually just the things inside the container of present moment awareness and nothing outside of that exists. You cannot and do not create and sustain the entire universe and everythng in it within present moment awareness.

The only thing that exists is what is inside present moment awareness.

But that can't be right, because everything is existing while you're not aware of it right? The entire universe, this world all the people exist independent of you being there right?

No and it gets worse or better depending on how you want to play it.

SR means you're the one and only one there is, not your body, not your mind, but you as consciousness. Consciousness doesn't have a 'you' or a name or even an I, but it does exist and it does know itself.

If you to buy into SR, then it sounds like you are alone and can do whatever you like as there are really no consequences. While that's true, it defeats the purpose of the illusion. As god (consciousness) you created all this for a reason and that reason is to know yourself better and how can you do that if you (consiousness) are perfect??

Imperfection.

And what is imperfection?............welcome to your life

SR Pro's

Nothing outside of awareness exists, so it doesn't matter. Nothing can hurt you unless you allow it to enter awareness and hurt you.

There is no fear, beause you are creating everything, good and bad within your world which is inside awareness. To be afraid means you actually fear yourself and that makes no sense.

Everything inside awareness is you and that includes other people. Every person (within awareness) is important because they are the closest reflection of you within the container of awareness. To hurt someone is to hurt yourself.

SR Con's

There really is only one sticking point with SR, it's the big one, the one that binds the whole thing together. It's not really a drawback or a disadvantage, but it is a big deal depending on what you're prepared to accept.

Responsibility.

Within SR everything is of your creation (yes even you're own body) and that means you are (and no one else) is 100% totally responsible for everything.

The interesting thing about SR is that it's bascially the last piece of the puzzle. Practically every ancient mystic, ancient teaching, alludes to us all being consciousness and that we are playing a game of sorts, but SR takes it one step further and places identity of consciousness with you and no one else, but that 'you' is not your physical body.

SR bakes noodles like nothing I've ever come across. Here we all are on a planet in a universe with billions of people and gatrillions of stuff and things, but from the SR POV, that just isn't true.

Dex

PS This is how I view SR, you may see it differently. There has been loads of discussions about SR here and Steve has some very awesome Q&A on SR. At first I thought God sent Jesus out for beer and he got lost, but it turns out Jesus was God along.

[Terumoto]

I thought this thread would be about why God sent Jesus, but it's just an explanation about subjective reality.

-_-

[Sam988]

I also thought that i would hear a message coming from a religious zealot trying to make me "welcome jesus in my heart". At least someone trying to convince me of the SR religion is not as bad as the previous option.... i guess.

[Anagogy]

Hello Max.

[Dharma]

that was too easy.

[BladeRunner]

Hehe...............I love talking to myself.

Dex

[AtlantaArtist]

YES - you've re-MIND-ed me about my re-Turn and re-SURRECT-ion.

[Cantando]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner

Nothing outside of awareness exists, so it doesn't matter.
Dex

Dax, I agree with that, but not perhaps for the same reason.
I believe I am outside of awareness and I don't exist in the normal sense of the word.
'Exist' applies to physical things, which scientists try to prove or disprove, but we could say that all existence is illusion anyway, so it is meaningless to differentiate between the two.
You've made some good points though, Mex.
Strange, you remind me of someone!

[Niki]

You know what is cool ?

Try this

Look at some object thats nearby. The wall or some furniture. Then realize that that wall is not there where you see it, but it is actually recreated in your brain. from the projection of light on the wall to our eyes into or brains where we create the image of what we see. Then realize that what we see as our brain is just the same! Recreated...

When you truly feel and realize these words, you start to flow above your body as strange as it sounds. I had this experience and I felt great.

I had entered a world where everything is at peace and everything known.

But after some unknown time I was back, remembering I still have to do smth here !


Strange post, I know. Just wanted to share

toodles

[BladeRunner]

Originally Posted by Cantando

Dax, I agree with that, but not perhaps for the same reason.
I believe I am outside of awareness and I don't exist in the normal sense of the word.
'Exist' applies to physical things, which scientists try to prove or disprove, but we could say that all existence is illusion anyway, so it is meaningless to differentiate between the two.
You've made some good points though, Mex.
Strange, you remind me of someone!

DaxMex.............sounds like a new Mexican Restaurant.

I was watching a science show about the big bang, universe theory etc and it seemed very acceptable. Then I realised it was a bunch of humans with very little evidence of anything proposing complex theory based more on their level of self intelligence than anything even remotely provable.

Noboby knows anything about everything.

A quote from God in the bible...........

"I'm not sure if I'm ready for all this responsibility"

Where is that quote??.....somewhere in the back

Dex

[cylon]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner

But that can't be right, because everything is existing while you're not aware of it right? The entire universe, this world all the people exist independent of you being there right?

No...

Wow, I felt it for a second there. Like I stepped out of myself. Then I lost it again, lol. This is the first time I've felt like I stepped into SR for a bit.

SR is hard to comprehend because the ego thinks it's separate from "everything". It's that illusion that we are separate that makes it seem impossible for things to NOT exist outside of our awareness. But if everything is one, and awareness is all there is, then if I'm aware then I am all that is and all that is exists only right now as I am aware of it.

It's not cylon being aware of "concsciousness", it's consciousness being aware of cylon.

As if I made any sense at all.

[BladeRunner]

Originally Posted by cylon

It's not cylon being aware of "concsciousness", it's consciousness being aware of cylon.

Very Good CY, avatar can't be aware of consciousness. Avatar will search for consciousness, but once found, consciousness will realise it was creating an avatar to hide itself.

Consciousness is playing a game with itself.

Dex

[Michael Chui]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner

Then I realised it was a bunch of humans with very little evidence of anything proposing complex theory based more on their level of self intelligence than anything even remotely provable.

Er, no. You came up with it. Remember?

[BladeRunner]

Originally Posted by Michael Chui

Er, no. You came up with it. Remember?

Of course I came up with it..........I know that.

I'm playing a game called self realisation

It's a long, drawn out, mostly boring game, but.....such is acceptance.

In truth it's called imperfection, the opposite of self which is perfection.

Dex