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Old 12-11-2007, 08:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok, I'm not sure exactly which sub forum to post this so I'm just going to go with this one.

I'm sure you have seen a lot of sci-fi movies about time travel and the like. My fav is The Butterfly Effect. I have always been fascinated by time travel since I was a kid. I mean think of all the possibilities! You make a mistake, you go back and correct it.

Of course, I know it's definitely not that simple. As with the butterfly effect, every little change may spark off a dramatically different result.

What's your take on time travel? Do you think somebody can invent a time-machine in our life time? What effect would that have?
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Old 12-11-2007, 09:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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if travelling back in time was ever possible, wouldn't we run into time travellers (from the future) right now? Therefore travelling back in time is impossible - or my logic is wrong.
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Old 12-11-2007, 02:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think your logic is flawed because of your assumptions. You're assuming that if a time traveler were wandering around in the past he or she would announce it to the general public, "Hey ya'll, I'll just be a sec... gotta assasinate someone and then I'll get out of your way," and that probably isn't likely. So if someone were time traveling they would probably take pains to guard this knowledge from others.

And secondly, you're assuming that just because a time traveler has never made himself aware to YOU that he hasn't made himself aware to anyone.

Not saying you're wrong, not saying time travel is possible, but just commenting on your logic.

As for time travel, I have a feeling it's possible though I don't understand the physics well enough to even begin to discuss it.
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Old 12-11-2007, 02:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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A couple of years ago I had the delightful experience to chat with one of the foremost scientists in the field, Dr Fay Dowker, and I posed this exact question to her: Is time travel possible, and if so, can we go back and fiddle with the past?

Her answer was, in pure physicist style, somewhat long-winded and most of it went right over my head. But, essentially, her argument that was time is a one-way trip. We can travel into the future by approaching the speed of light (re E = MC2 and all the rest) but can't go back.

That said, she was humble and open enough to the possibility that we know very little about how time actually works so maybe there's some way to go back in time, but at present we don't think so.

More about Fay Dowker here:
Fay Dowker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
BBC The Next Big Thing - Anti-matter
Fay Dowker: Information and Much More from Answers.com
http://loops05.aei.mpg.de/index_file...les/dowker.pdf (this one's a PDF that may take a moment or two to load)
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Old 12-11-2007, 05:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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what do you guys think about this guy?

YouTube - CNN: Dr. Ronald Mallett's Time Travel Machine
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Old 12-11-2007, 07:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I remember reading about a time traveler who posted around 1999. He claimed to be in the army and starting posting online for a little while. He talked about a civil war happening in the States around the year 2008. It wouldn't be north vs south, but instead those aligned with the goverment and those opposed. He claimed the government would take excessive means to control the people, they'd be limited in their actions because of fear. He talked about Russia being aligned with those the Americans opposed to the U.S government and China aligned with the U.S government. This eventually leads to another World War, but in this case nukes are used. Something like everywhere is affected except for South America.

After this war people become less violent. They start to become more Spiritual. He said the U.S government has 5 or 6 presidents. Also life is more of a community thing afterwards. If you don't pull your weight in the community, then you could be kicked out. They also work 5 or 6 hours instead of the average 8.

I forgot the name of the website that has all this info, but i'm sure someone could find it if they look. I'm not sure if what i wrote down was exactly what he said, but i'm just going by what i remember. From what he has said though... umm *looks outside*, things seem to be falling into place.

Oh and to add Jesus doesn't come back. Also in his time, time travel isn't known to the public and is thought of as impossible.
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Ok, I'm not sure exactly which sub forum to post this so I'm just going to go with this one.

I'm sure you have seen a lot of sci-fi movies about time travel and the like. My fav is The Butterfly Effect. I have always been fascinated by time travel since I was a kid. I mean think of all the possibilities! You make a mistake, you go back and correct it.

Of course, I know it's definitely not that simple. As with the butterfly effect, every little change may spark off a dramatically different result.

What's your take on time travel? Do you think somebody can invent a time-machine in our life time? What effect would that have?

What are you saying? Is time travel possible? Does such technology exist? Is it really possible for beings in what we perceive as our future to come into what we perceive as our past and alter the course of matter through space-time in significant and deliberate ways?

What would you do if the answer is yes?

Would you be horrified to learn it happens quite frequently and that you remember all the changes as your perceived past? In the zero time that such travelers exist in, Lincoln could have been killed yesterday in their sense of temporal reckoning, but to you, it is known history. Isn't that a freaky thought? What if our society has been carefully engineered by time stream manipulations............. What if all the worlds major religions have been contrived and given "validity" through the sinister machinations of self serving entities posing as gods to gain ultimate control and dominion over us.........uh oh........i'd better be quiet.........else i might never have been born............shhhhhhhh......quiet everyone.... shhhhhhh....
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Old 12-16-2007, 12:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Apparently, at the highest plane of existence (where there is the divine/source), the past, present and future are all happening at once. Robert Bruce says this on his website Astral Dynamics.

Also theoretically, anything that moves faster than the speed of light will travel back in time (and will have infinite mass).

And as another interesting side-note: There was someone who supposedly projected his consciousness somewhere in the future (also known as remote viewing) where there were a group of people standing at a desert, and one of them had took notice of the remote viewer and smiled.
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Old 12-16-2007, 02:16 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I also do not think time really exists, but is a perception.
So when we think of past events, we are travlling in time essencially.
The question should not be is time travel possible, but it manipulating what we believe to be past or future possible. We always manipulate the future by present choices we make. Awareness is always in the now and everchanging,
so preeption always changes, you can not change events that happened , but you can change the perception of those things .
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Time is an apparency. It is intimately tied up with consciousness. We use it, like a tool, to organize our experiences into a sequence.
The "I", which is your essential you, is immersed in this body of consciousness (subjective reality).

We are in it, and it is in us (within you, without you).
When you have an enlightening moment (satori) you realize this.

In meditation, when brain waves slow down to the theta level, information can be retrieved from the Universe/Unconscious/Higher Self by making requests, or in religious terms, prayers. Answers, or information, are always returned. Depending on our skill and ability, we can reassemble this information into a time like sequence, which our consciousness can make sense of. The Akashic Records only exist when we have received the relevant information and reassembled it.

Some people have the ability to interpret this information through other forms as well, such as art and music.
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The only time that really exist is now. The past is just a shadow and the future is just a phantom in your imagination. You can't travel to something that isn't there.
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Old 12-20-2007, 08:33 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Default Dudes...there ain't no past and future........

The 'past' and the 'future' are not part of existence....
existence/reality is a whole unified field of continuously active energy/vibrations...
it never stops...it never stores part of itself anywhere else (there is no place 'anywhere else' - See here
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If we could make an image of it..it might look like this:


Repetition gives the illusion of form etc. but everything is always moving.
Just like we know the earth is spinning about 1040 miles/hr but it seems like it's still. more on repetition here.

The past...our partial recordings...memories.
The future....our projections....
Everything is always in the now...
no where else exists

For us to go to a former movement of the unified field ( a 'past' configuration) you would have to get everything in existence to reproduce the former movement...and even then if such a task were possible it would just be a current reproduction...man that hurts my head just thinking about it.
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The 'past' and the 'future' are not part of existence....
existence/reality is a whole unified field of continuously active energy/vibrations...
it never stops...it never stores part of itself anywhere else (there is no place 'anywhere else' - See here
for more.)

If we could make an image of it..it might look like this:


Repetition gives the illusion of form etc. but everything is always moving.
Just like we know the earth is spinning about 1040 miles/hr but it seems like it's still. more on repetition here.

The past...our partial recordings...memories.
The future....our projections....
Everything is always in the now...
no where else exists

For us to go to a former movement of the unified field ( a 'past' configuration) you would have to get everything in existence to reproduce the former movement...and even then if such a task were possible it would just be a current reproduction...man that hurts my head just thinking about it.
I am fascinated by the idea of time travel but AtlantaArtist has provided us with the most accurate explanation as to why time travel is not possible.

That "everything in existence to reproduce the former movement..." is the part that will make your head hurt!
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Thanks mejo23!
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I believe in different realms and timeless world, and I believe spiritual techniques allow u to get to different realms and witness them. Thus, we have have many selves performing in different realms (Many Past, present, future and higher powers and midwayers which are the angels btw the higher powers n humans).

Past Life regression is quite accepted and now future regression is also being studies where glimpses of the future can be seen.
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