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After Rosie's Post: Oh All Knowing One, I decided to compile a list of reasons why God has not revealed himself, or contacted us. Please feel free to add to the list He wants us to come up with the answer ourselves. He doesn’t exist. We are God. We are too simple minded to understand the complexities of him. He believes that he will not fulfill our expectations. He thinks we aren’t ready yet. He already has through the bible. He has encoded a message for us somewhere in the world, and it is up to scientists or scholars to find that message. He, like us, is finite and has died. He is waiting until we “cross-over.” He believes the truth will be too much for us to handle. He is trying to get us to prove our faith. He is a mute (jokes). Last edited by SecretSeven; 11-23-2007 at 02:12 AM. |
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The first one you wrote is the most significant to me. | |
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Apparrently god has and does contact some of us (not me personally) but we don't believe them. I think we get the god we believe in (or not). Quote:
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God doesn't reveal himself because he already has through Jesus. God doesn't reveal himself because we aren't looking in the right places for him. | |||||||||||||
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A woman is drowning in the water, and a bull comes along and asks if she needs help, she says "no thank you god will save me" later, another bull comes, asks her if she needs help, she says "no thankyou god will save me." then she drowns, goes to heaven and asks god why he didnt save her, god then says "I sent you two bulls you dummy" God is here, everywhere, we just have to acknoledge him as what he is. |
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They're all wrong because there's no "He." Don't worry, I'm not saying God is a chick or anything. "God" exists, but not in the anthropomorphic sense. Our western view of God as a bearded man living in heaven is just a result of cultural influence. I had trouble dealing with my beliefs, and was an atheist until I realized I could believe in god without accepting all the extra silly baggage that many religions like to include. |
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From Merrem-Webster Online. Definition of god - Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary 1 : the supreme or ultimate reality: 2, as a: the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe. Believing is this idea will get you into trouble if you're wanting to manifest in your reality. You are the supreme, ultimate reality in your infinite universes, as is your neighbor. You always have been and you always will be.........Except for now. Cause you've decided to play this fun and interesting game called Human life on Earth. |
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| I like that. It seems there may be a lot of people saying they don't believe in god (or whatever term) just because of all that baggage that comes with the religious messages. However, those that don't believe in god, I wonder, do they not still get to wonder at a cloud in the sky or a water fall cascade and be noticing the face of god anyway?
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Number 1 can let us be manifesters since, I think, we also would be part of or able to be one with ultimate reality. Number 2 - does kind of put some sort of power or being outside of us and may not allow us to manifest whatever. However, those that believe in a god that is outside of creation may not be held down or be thinking there's nothing we can do for ourselves. And those believers will also say, god helps those that help themselves. That is, god will help you follow your will when it is mostly good for everyone around you. Wheather you put a god outside of yourself or not, in this way, will not get you hindered - since what ever is the best goals for yourself, would also be what the god outside of you is going to help you with. Just saying, I not a believer of a god outside of creation. | |
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I put a link saying this is the Merriem-Webster's definiton. | |
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Big words "Never manifest", seems quite limiting to me though. I rather belief EVERYTHING manifests through EVERY way I chose WHENEVER. | |||
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There is eternity.... the 'always present' presence and there is the temporal.... any thing or non-thing which is NOT 'always here'. Obviously intelligence, knowledge, and personality are NOT eternal as they are dependent on the use of memory to be developed and functional... From "ouch that action is painful" - non-verbal reactive physical memories to the development of symbolism "ug means 'good'" for language, etc. and so on... intelligence, knowledge, and personality are NOT 'always present'....they are learned through experience... They are temporal. Other temporal things and non-things... any vibration except the prime vibration any movement any pattern any form any being any thought any word any idea any personality and on and on...you get the picture. ![]() The creative force or vibration that eventually spawned creation was here and vibrating before any beings or memory or words or language. It is constant and impersonal and always here....no beginning and no ending. It's nature or instinct as vibration is to expand and contract. Creation was spawned by instinct and not intelligence. As humans we project our intelligence and personalities on the most powerful and eternal force in reality because the deepest subconscious imprint before words and language is of 'superior beings (parents or guardians) supplying our every need' and to our awareness they were already fully knowledgable and intelligent with personalities. I believe this subconscious imprint is the original cause for any God(s) beliefs and mythology developed by human cultures. That said I also see how energy develops these traits and eventually uses our inherent ability to effect the energetic whole to become 'gods' of sorts....'conscious' creators....we are doing that right now (plug for my Blog Can We Evolve NOW?). So God or 'the eternal all-powerful creative force' is starting to talk to us as us NOW.But it took a long time to bake them cookies before they could say 'Hi!'. |
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maybe: 1-he doesn't exist 2-hes dead 3-he doesn't give a **** 4-he doesn't know we exist 5-hes busy making universe v.2 6-hes fighting with another god 7-he uncreated himself for awhile 8-hes speaking Arabic so we don't understand 9-hes doesn't know how 10-he cant 11-the devil ate him personally i prefer the 1st choice |
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