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Old 11-23-2007, 02:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Reasons why God hasn't Contacted us

After Rosie's Post: Oh All Knowing One, I decided to compile a list of reasons why God has not revealed himself, or contacted us. Please feel free to add to the list
He wants us to come up with the answer ourselves.
He doesn’t exist.
We are God.
We are too simple minded to understand the complexities of him.
He believes that he will not fulfill our expectations.
He thinks we aren’t ready yet.
He already has through the bible.
He has encoded a message for us somewhere in the world, and it is up to scientists or scholars to find that message.
He, like us, is finite and has died.
He is waiting until we “cross-over.”
He believes the truth will be too much for us to handle.
He is trying to get us to prove our faith.
He is a mute (jokes).

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Old 11-23-2007, 02:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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After Rosie's Post: Oh All Knowing One, I decided to compile a list of reasons why God has not revealed himself, or contacted us. Please feel free to add to the list
He wants us to come up with the answer ourselves.
He doesn’t exist.
We are God.
We are too simple minded to understand the complexities of him.
He believes that he will not fulfill our expectations.
He thinks we aren’t ready yet.
He already has through the bible.
He has encoded a message for us somewhere in the world, and it is up to scientists or scholars to find that message.
He, like us, is finite and has died.
He is waiting until we “cross-over.”
He believes the truth will be too much for us to handle.

He is trying to get us to prove our faith.
He is a mute (jokes).
I've put in bold the reasons that I currently believe. I'm sure everyone will think differently.

The first one you wrote is the most significant to me.
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Old 11-23-2007, 01:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Red face god reveals himself to some

Apparrently god has and does contact some of us (not me personally) but we don't believe them. I think we get the god we believe in (or not).


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After Rosie's Post: Oh All Knowing One, I decided to compile a list of reasons why God has not revealed himself, or contacted us. Please feel free to add to the list
He wants us to come up with the answer ourselves.
He doesn’t exist.
We are God.
We are too simple minded to understand the complexities of him.
He believes that he will not fulfill our expectations.
He thinks we aren’t ready yet.
He already has through the bible.
He has encoded a message for us somewhere in the world, and it is up to scientists or scholars to find that message.
He, like us, is finite and has died.
He is waiting until we “cross-over.”
He believes the truth will be too much for us to handle.
He is trying to get us to prove our faith.
He is a mute (jokes).
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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errmm

Well if I was being brutally honest I would have to say God doesn't exist. If I was going to be more...poetic...I would say God exists more in the form of a concept apropos he is everything, and thus he is nothing.
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Old 11-23-2007, 04:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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God comes AS me, AS we. Whatever you think God to BE, that's what He (who isn't male) will BE.
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After Rosie's Post: Oh All Knowing One, I decided to compile a list of reasons why God has not revealed himself, or contacted us. Please feel free to add to the list
He wants us to come up with the answer ourselves.
What is the question that he wants us to come up with?
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He doesn’t exist.
Doesn't belong in the list because you are assuming god exists to even make a list that questions why he has not revealed himself.
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We are God.
If so then he has been revealed in us.
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We are too simple minded to understand the complexities of him.
We are very much able to understand the complexities - we just are too brain washed into our ego.
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He believes that he will not fulfill our expectations.
Not showing up because he is less than what we have made him to be sounds like a circular argument and our own doing, not his.
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He thinks we aren’t ready yet.
Same as too simple minded
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He already has through the bible.
The bible is text not god.
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He has encoded a message for us somewhere in the world, and it is up to scientists or scholars to find that message.
Science or decompsoing the world into parts will not find the whole.
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He, like us, is finite and has died.
Then he is not god if he died.
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He is waiting until we “cross-over.”
When we cross over we will know more about the spirit world all off a sudden, but we still may not see god - I don't think god is waiting for us like that. We can look for him now or after we die.
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He believes the truth will be too much for us to handle.
same as too simple minded.
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He is trying to get us to prove our faith.
That's an interesting one. Proving faith. God wants us to have faith in him, so he doesn't show himself. I guess if he showed himself explicitly and very concretly, we wouldn't need faith - it would be a fact.
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He is a mute (jokes).
hehe

God doesn't reveal himself because he already has through Jesus.
God doesn't reveal himself because we aren't looking in the right places for him.
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After Rosie's Post: Oh All Knowing One, I decided to compile a list of reasons why God has not revealed himself, or contacted us. Please feel free to add to the list
You forgot one reason:

- God was banned from this forum a few weeks ago.
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Lol, Max the all mighty. I'm sure his soul still lives on in some other forum. Or perhaps he'll continue to write here under the guise of a new name? Who knows....
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My concept of god is 'pure potential' and this quote fits it perfectly.


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A woman is drowning in the water, and a bull comes along and asks if she needs help, she says "no thank you god will save me" later, another bull comes, asks her if she needs help, she says "no thankyou god will save me." then she drowns, goes to heaven and asks god why he didnt save her, god then says "I sent you two bulls you dummy"
God is here, everywhere, we just have to acknoledge him as what he is.
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They're all wrong because there's no "He."
Don't worry, I'm not saying God is a chick or anything.

"God" exists, but not in the anthropomorphic sense. Our western view of God as a bearded man living in heaven is just a result of cultural influence.

I had trouble dealing with my beliefs, and was an atheist until I realized I could believe in god without accepting all the extra silly baggage that many religions like to include.
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From Merrem-Webster Online. Definition of god - Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

1 : the supreme or ultimate reality: 2, as a: the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe.

Believing is this idea will get you into trouble if you're wanting to manifest in your reality.

You are the supreme, ultimate reality in your infinite universes, as is your neighbor.
You always have been and you always will be.........Except for now. Cause you've decided to play this fun and interesting game called Human life on Earth.
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I had trouble dealing with my beliefs, and was an atheist until I realized I could believe in god without accepting all the extra silly baggage that many religions like to include.
I like that. It seems there may be a lot of people saying they don't believe in god (or whatever term) just because of all that baggage that comes with the religious messages. However, those that don't believe in god, I wonder, do they not still get to wonder at a cloud in the sky or a water fall cascade and be noticing the face of god anyway?
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Believing is this idea will get you into trouble if you're wanting to manifest in your reality.

You are the supreme, ultimate reality in your infinite universes, as is your neighbor.
You always have been and you always will be.........Except for now. Cause you've decided to play this fun and interesting game called Human life on Earth.
That's quite some nasty belief you got there! In my reality I can rely on whatever to manifest, and it always does! Feels so good, knowing that it doesn't matter who I give my power to, and still get everything my heart desires. Hmmm gotta love it!
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1 : the supreme or ultimate reality:

2, as a: the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe.

Believing is this idea will get you into trouble if you're wanting to manifest in your reality.
Looks like there are two ways to define god there.

Number 1 can let us be manifesters since, I think, we also would be part of or able to be one with ultimate reality.

Number 2 - does kind of put some sort of power or being outside of us and may not allow us to manifest whatever. However, those that believe in a god that is outside of creation may not be held down or be thinking there's nothing we can do for ourselves. And those believers will also say, god helps those that help themselves. That is, god will help you follow your will when it is mostly good for everyone around you. Wheather you put a god outside of yourself or not, in this way, will not get you hindered - since what ever is the best goals for yourself, would also be what the god outside of you is going to help you with. Just saying, I not a believer of a god outside of creation.
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That's quite some nasty belief you got there! In my reality I can rely on whatever to manifest, and it always does! Feels so good, knowing that it doesn't matter who I give my power to, and still get everything my heart desires. Hmmm gotta love it!
Now how on earth did you get the idea that that is my belief? Lol...

I put a link saying this is the Merriem-Webster's definiton.
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Now how on earth did you get the idea that that is my belief? Lol...

I put a link saying this is the Merriem-Webster's definiton.
Thank God for the creation of the "Quote", or did I actually create it? Hmmm difficult!

Anyways here goes, your quotes:

Quote:
Second. "The Universe".
Keep using that frame-ology an you'll never own your universe, which in turn means you'll never manifest.

Why?
Simple.... cause you're perpetuating the limited thought that "The Universe" is outside you.
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Well no......Actually what I'm trying to say is the labels we use are dis empowering.

Big words "Never manifest", seems quite limiting to me though. I rather belief EVERYTHING manifests through EVERY way I chose WHENEVER.
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He's busy watching Jerry Springer.
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Big words "Never manifest", seems quite limiting to me though. I rather belief EVERYTHING manifests through EVERY way I chose WHENEVER.
Good point. Used the wrong word. I shoulda said "more difficult".
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They're all wrong because there's no "He."
Don't worry, I'm not saying God is a chick or anything.

"God" exists, but not in the anthropomorphic sense. Our western view of God as a bearded man living in heaven is just a result of cultural influence.

I had trouble dealing with my beliefs, and was an atheist until I realized I could believe in god without accepting all the extra silly baggage that many religions like to include.
What baggage did you leave out? I'd like to create my Mr er, I mean Ms, er I mean ___ Potato Head God to fit my current level of understanding
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What if, actually, God has contacted us? Or better, only some of us?
Is it right to just label them as psycho cracks?
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What if, actually, God has contacted us? Or better, only some of us?
Right. Perhaps his cellphone comes with a friends and family plan and he's afraid of using his minutes, so he mostly talks to his son. Luckily his son came down and set up a landline, so we may know the father through him, but for the son to call us he's apt to "call collect", so it's necessary to put some change in the collection plate whenever we get a chance. Yeah, that must be it






(I've been in a playful mood lately)
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There's a difference between believing something and believing IN something.
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Lol, Max the all mighty. I'm sure his soul still lives on in some other forum. Or perhaps he'll continue to write here under the guise of a new name? Who knows....
Max isn't dead, he's still living, just not how you'd think.

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There is eternity....
the 'always present' presence
and
there is the temporal....
any thing or non-thing which is NOT 'always here'.


Obviously intelligence, knowledge, and personality are NOT eternal as they are dependent on the use of memory to be developed and functional...
From "ouch that action is painful" - non-verbal reactive physical memories to the development of symbolism "ug means 'good'" for language, etc. and so on... intelligence, knowledge, and personality are NOT 'always present'....they are learned through experience...
They are temporal.

Other temporal things and non-things...
any vibration except the prime vibration
any movement
any pattern
any form
any being
any thought
any word
any idea
any personality
and on and on...you get the picture.



The creative force or vibration that eventually spawned creation was here and vibrating before any beings or memory or words or language. It is constant and impersonal and always here....no beginning and no ending. It's nature or instinct as vibration is to expand and contract. Creation was spawned by instinct and not intelligence.
As humans we project our intelligence and personalities on the most powerful and eternal force in reality because the deepest subconscious imprint before words and language is of 'superior beings (parents or guardians) supplying our every need' and to our awareness they were already fully knowledgable and intelligent with personalities.

I believe this subconscious imprint is the original cause for any God(s) beliefs and mythology developed by human cultures.

That said I also see how energy develops these traits and eventually uses our inherent ability to effect the energetic whole to become 'gods' of sorts....'conscious' creators....we are doing that right now (plug for my Blog Can We Evolve NOW?).

So God or 'the eternal all-powerful creative force' is starting to talk to us as us NOW.But it took a long time to bake them cookies before they could say 'Hi!'.
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Maybe it's us that should be contacting him! After all, we lost ourselves in this mess in the first place!
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maybe:
1-he doesn't exist
2-hes dead
3-he doesn't give a ****
4-he doesn't know we exist
5-hes busy making universe v.2
6-hes fighting with another god
7-he uncreated himself for awhile
8-hes speaking Arabic so we don't understand
9-hes doesn't know how
10-he cant
11-the devil ate him

personally i prefer the 1st choice
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we are all already born part of him. All of us are God.
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