Does Steve Believe in Jesus Christ

[tommy]

I have for the first time in my 46 years I have started to finally begin to figure things out (thanks in large part to Steve and this forum).

In any event I now, more than ever, have more questions than answers but feel that I'm finally on the right path for lifes answers.

One of the things I'm still wrestling with is the connection of spirituality with laws of the universe (ie Law of Attraction, Vibration, etc). I do believe these laws (at least the ones of I'm aware of) but who created/established these laws. Was it God...if it was, will I find these laws in the bible. How do these laws (or are they even suppose to) co-exist with the Christian faith. Do you have to believe in one at the exclision of the other. Did Jesus Christ ever make reference to these laws.

I am also curious, as my title suggests, if Steve believes in Jesus Christ.

[febflake]

Why don't you read the bible and find out? It's not a really long book.
Don't forget that to have faith or to believe isn't the same as to know and to deduce.

[Zach]

If you want to learn about Jesus, pick up a modern Bible (no ye's, thou's, thee's and thine's). I'd recommend a New International Version (NIV) or the Clear Word. The Clear Word isn't an actual version of the Bible, but it's quite pleasant to read. I really don't enjoy reading the KJV or old versions that are from Shakespeare's era.

I'd start in the New Testament book of John (easiest to read, in my opinion) or Luke. The first four books (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) are fairly similar, they basically tell the same story just from different perspectives.

[Scipio]

I think most people believe in Jesus Christ. Heck, I'm an atheist and believe Jesus Christ existed, I've heard there is hard evidence showing this. There is no rational basis to believing he performed miracles or was a higher power though, that is the province of faith alone.

[David Hausladen]

I can't answer your question about Steve's belief, but with regard to the Law of Attraction and the Bible:

Jesus said in Mark 9:23, "Everything is possible for him who believes," and in Matthew 17:20, "If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you." This aligns very closely with the central concept of the Law of Attraction, taken from a personal point of view: that if you place your faith in a certain thing, then God/the universe will make it true.

[Andrew Russell]

I don't really want to speak for Steve, but the impression that I get from his writing is that - he believes Jesus Christ existed, and while not necessarily "the son of God" and all that jazz, was (is?) a super-enlightened person.

Perhaps Google has the answers? The first link looks promising.

Edit: here's a Steveism I found: "Jesus is like my spiritual battery, my ultimate role model for personal growth". (check out the full entry)

[Bruce Achterberg]

Originally Posted by tommy

I am also curious, as my title suggests, if Steve believes in Jesus Christ.

I cannot answer for Steve, nor do I think it is wise to label Steve as "someone who believes in Jesus Christ" (based on your particular interpretation of who "Jesus Christ" was/is), mainly because Steve is constantly changing and evolving - a "slippery beast" in his own words.

Nonetheless, using my ability to remember far too much from Steve's blog posts and articles, along with the help of the Google search bar on Steve's website, I can present you with something, which is an extension of what Andrew Russell linked to above.

In the Ask Steve series Steve featured on blog this year (2006), Steve answered the visitor question "What Religion Are You?" in the Ask Steve - What Religion Are You? blog post. This was part of his answer (to see his full answer read the entire article I liked to previously):

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina, 'Ask Steve - What Religion Are You?'

I don’t identify myself with any particular belief system, philosophy, or religion, so this question doesn’t have any meaning for me. Just as your computer wouldn’t identify itself as the software it runs, I don’t identify myself as the beliefs I hold in my consciousness. [...]

When I desire spiritual guidance, I go straight to the source and connect with God or other spiritual beings through meditation. There’s no need to go to some concrete building once a week to recite mindless incantations with a religious customer service rep.

I have many spiritual guides and role models, but the primary one is Jesus (Y’shua). Jesus is like my spiritual battery, my ultimate role model for personal growth. I’m not referring to the cryptic figure inaccurately reported in the various versions of the human scribed, politically motivated Bible. I mean the genuine ascended master who still serves us today from the nonphysical realms… if only we develop the ability to turn our gaze within and connect with him.

My true religion, as you can probably guess, is enlightenment — the pure spirituality on which all major religions are based but which none retain in practice. And the most promising pathway I’ve discovered that has led me steadily in this direction is the unyielding intention to eliminate every last drop of fear from my consciousness. When all the fear is completely gone, enlightenment is what remains.

Hope that helps. In future, if you have such questions, I highly recommend using the Google search bar on StevePavlina.com (which can be found on Steve's home page.

Make sure that you use the Google search bar on Steve's home page, though, as the search bar on Steve's blog is, in my opinion, not as good as Google is at hunting down certain words and phrases.

Simply typing in "Jesus" in the Google search bar (on the home page) brings up the article I linked to above, along with a excerpt from the article, as the 8th result on the list. It may take you a while to get become efficient with using Google, but once you do, it is an invaluable tool (at least, I think so). If you are having trouble finding something, here are some recommendations based on my experience with Google:

• The keywords you use are important. Don't go overboard with key words when doing a search, as if you do, your results may be a little off. For example, say you wanted to know if Steve believes in Jesus Christ. Instead of typing in "does Steve believe in jesus christ" or "jesus christ", it is usually better to limit your search to one simple keyword that covers everything. In this particular case, that keyword would be "jesus". When searching with Google, less is often more.
  
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• Don't make assumptions when searching for something. Making assumptions when you are doing a search can cause you to use keywords that may provide you with inaccurate results. For example, don't make the assumption that Steve would say something the way you would say it. While you may says "Jesus Christ" and assume Steve would also say the same, Steve may actually simply refer to that individual as actually "Jesus". This may sound trivial, but believe me, making assumptions was a trap I fell into many times when I first started using Google - avoid it as much as possible, and you will be rewarded with more targeted results, and less time searching for what you are looking for.
  
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• Don't give up. Depending whether or not you consider what you are searching for to be important, don't give up searching if your original few searches don't provide the results you are looking for. Often, when you are searching for something based on some keywords you remember, it takes a while for you to consciously get through those keywords that provide you with poor results. You may find your lack of results frustrating, but keep at it! That is merely part of the process. Once you've exhausted all of the keywords that aren't any good, you'll start using the keywords that are good, and you should find what you are looking for. Do keep in mind, though, that the time spent searching is something to consider. If what you are searching for is trivial, then I would not recommend you waste too much time searching for it. If, however, it is highly important to you, keep at it, and don't give up until you succeed! (Although once you've spent more then 24 hours searching for something, I'd advise you give it a rest for a while.)

[impaul99]

I found the answer to the original question in the book called "The Dissapearance of the Universe" by Gary R. Renard recommended to me by Steve.

I highly recommend you read it.

- Paul

[scottdblog]

I highly recommend anything by Gary Renard.

Scott Desgrosseilliers: Gary Renard's Disappearance of the Universe

[Brutha]

Did Jesus Christ ever make reference to these laws.

With a bit of creativity you can read the laws in the bible. Just as you can read a lot of things in the bible if you want to.

[Ramir]

Steve does believe in Jesus Christ as a prophet and he does believe in Muhammad as a last prophet. And he does believe in God or Allah, whoever...

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by impaul99

I found the answer to the original question in the book called "The Dissapearance of the Universe" by Gary R. Renard recommended to me by Steve.

I highly recommend you read it.

- Paul

Seconded. Reading The Disappearance of the Universe is the best place to start.

[Asmoday]

Well, there is a proverb (can't rember the index): "As a man thinketh, so he is"

Also, there's the whole... Seek and you shall find, knock and the door shall opened, etc, etc.

Finally, the "faith of a mustard seed" and the literal proclimation that you can move mountains.

At a cursory glance, all sounds LoA to me.