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Old 10-25-2007, 06:14 AM
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Do you think that our 'level' of consciousness determines what type of a simulation we are born into?

I am thinking maybe we are born in the middle of order of things and one half of the population (or world consciousness) is above you on the consciousness scale while the other half is below. This gives us the right environment to grow in.

I got this question/thought when I was reading some book. It suddenly popped into my head. What do you think?

Edit: this question is not specific to Subjective Reality. It can include other types of Reality.

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Do you think that our 'level' of consciousness determines what type of a simulation we are born into?

I am thinking maybe we are born in the middle of order of things and one half of the population (or world consciousness) is above you on the consciousness scale while the other half is below. This gives us the right environment to grow in.

I got this question/thought when I was reading some book. It suddenly popped into my head. What do you think?

SR is a belief that you are god, no one else exists, therefore everyone is you because you're god creating everything and everyone for the benefit of experiencing the opposite of yourself. You're perfect, timeless and formless, so the whole concept of reality is to be everything you're not.

So in SR if you're sitting in your home alone, that's it, nothing outside of that container, present moment awareness exists, now if you leave your home go shopping and see hundreds of people then you are creating them on the fly as you go.

Now we could all have a seperate piece of consciousness and the level of consciousness we had prior to being born dictates our level of awareness about being god or how much of god we carry, but none of that relates to SR.

SR means right now you exist in this moment and all your memories of the past are created right there as you think of them, so technically you were never born, you may have a memory or even a photot to prove it, but again that is rendered in the moment to justify a thought of a past memory.

SR really implies that you are the central and only point of existance and everything swirls around that as you desire, people, past, surroundings, everything is rendered in the moment to allude to a human, planet based life and existance. You even invent time to sense growth.

People struggle with SR because they fear being alone, but in SR you're not alone, you're god having an experience, the ultimate imperfect experience. This is challenging at the best of times because the more realise the truth then you move closer to perfection, closer back to self and truth and that isn't really the point of the experience.

I've rambled a bit here, but your question doesn't really relate to SR.

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Do you think that our 'level' of consciousness determines what type of a simulation we are born into?
Probably.

In your current mind/body existence, if you believe you are a minor character in a movie directed by some higher being, then you are limiting yourself and not in control of your own destiny.

If you expand your awareness, you will come to realize that you are the creator of the movie. You are sitting there, creating and directing it, and your ego/mind/body is the lead character in the movie. However, you are not 'controlling' your lead character (in the negative sense). You are just 'experiencing' as that lead character through that character's senses and awareness.

At this level of your higher self, you may realize that you have created other characters as well, living different lives in different parts of the world, each with their own unique identity, experience and subjective reality. They are all connected by your common consciousness. At a subconscious level, they are communicating with each other and learning to grow.

But, basically, the characters are living in a matrix (the time/space continuum).

Once you are relaxed and aware as your higher self, you will realize that you are existing in another continuum, operating at a higher frequency level than planet earth. You will then become aware of an even higher self, and that you are the lead character in that even higher self's movie. You may then ascend into the consciousness of that other higher self.

Who knows how many higher selves and matrices within matrices there are? That is all part of the joy of living. Throughout all levels and transitions of consciousness flows the loving energy from God/Source which gives you life and the desire to explore and expand.

Whatever level you are at, that is your subjective reality. However, if you feel caught in a matrix and not in control of your life, try to let go of all resistance, meditate and ask your higher self for help.

Some of you will recognize the views above as similar to what is in the Jane Roberts/Seth material. I read this stuff about 18 years ago, but for some reason, it's coming back to me and starting to make sense.
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There are so many different concepts and ideas of this 'bigger picture'. I wonder if all could simultaneously exist or be correct, somehow. Like the one you proposed Cantando.

Max, in SR you're still born to your parents and you have your surroundings. The world may or may not exist, but your world does, right? So maybe its possible that you as a person (mind/body) is roughly in the middle on the consciousness scale in terms of people, events and things and ideas that happen in your reality. Maybe this was the level at what you were before entering/creating the physical world. I think it could be said in the middle of the Polarity scale?

Note: I am talking about the conditions one is born into, not what you create as you live your life.

I do realize though that this question is not specific to SR. So I'll mention that in the opening post.

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There are so many different concepts and ideas of this 'bigger picture'. I wonder if all could simultaneously exist or be correct, somehow. Like the one you proposed Cantando.

Max, in SR you're still born to your parents and you have your surroundings. The world may or may not exist, but your world does, right? So maybe its possible that you as a person (mind/body) is roughly in the middle on the consciousness scale in terms of people, events and things and ideas that happen in your reality. Maybe this was the level at what you were before entering/creating the physical world. I think it could be said in the middle of the Polarity scale?

Note: I am talking about the conditions one is born into, not what you create as you live your life.

I do realize though that this question is not specific to SR. So I'll mention that in the opening post.
I don't think SR means you were born at all. SR is a belief that present moment awareness is all there is and everything is created in that moment. So when you think of being born and growing up, they are thoughts of a past that you're creating in the moment, from an SR POV they didn't happen, how could they because the present moment is al that exists.

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I don't think SR means you were born at all. SR is a belief that present moment awareness is all there is and everything is created in that moment. So when you think of being born and growing up, they are thoughts of a past that you're creating in the moment, from an SR POV they didn't happen, how could they because the present moment is al that exists.

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Not to sure about that, Max.

So, if I think about the assassination of President Kennedy, I am creating the event, here and now? It didn't actually happen 44 years ago?

When your mum walks into the room, you are creating her, there and then? So, how do you recognize her? You wouldn't know anything about her. You would say, "Who the hell are you, get out of my house!"
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I posted this on a different thread before i saw this one. What most of you SR posters seem to actually be talking about seems more like Solipsism.

This is an interesting article that seems applicable here:

Solipsism and the Problem of Other Minds [Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy]

I think Steve even talks about the difference between SR and Solipsism (not sure where).
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Not to sure about that, Max.

So, if I think about the assassination of President Kennedy, I am creating the event, here and now? It didn't actually happen 44 years ago?

When your mum walks into the room, you are creating her, there and then? So, how do you recognize her? You wouldn't know anything about her. You would say, "Who the hell are you, get out of my house!"
I consider a conscious/energy being would be more than capable of creating everything you've just described.

But the real issue is when does the conscious being 'wake up' and in fact realise it's consciousness and then everything either spirals out of control once it truly knows itself, hence ending the illusion of imperfection or everything clicks and makes perfect sense and the illusion continues but with more creative control.

For one thing outside of present moment awareness to exist, then everything has too and that really means EVERYTHING and that just doesn't make much sense too me. I'd even go as far to say it makes us victims.

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Do you think that our 'level' of consciousness determines what type of a simulation we are born into?

I am thinking maybe we are born in the middle of order of things and one half of the population (or world consciousness) is above you on the consciousness scale while the other half is below. This gives us the right environment to grow in.

I got this question/thought when I was reading some book. It suddenly popped into my head. What do you think?

Edit: this question is not specific to Subjective Reality. It can include other types of Reality.
It not only determines what simulation you are born into, it IS your reality. LoC is the filter through which you are conscious of and experience reality.

What you truly are, is basically God/Existence with the ability to tune into any LoC or reality you want. What happened to us, is that we chose to tune into the LoC of "I am stuck in ego and separateness and an objective physical world" and all the rest of the higher LoCs are effectively blocked from your awareness. Not permanently, but effectively which is why it takes so much work to get ourselves unstuck and out of the illusion.
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