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Old 10-17-2007, 08:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default "proof" that we are all one

I'm writing an article for a newsletter about all of us being a part of one energy source.

I'd like to write a "factual" portion in the article about energy and metaphysics and how it leads us to believe that this concept is entirely possible. I'm writing it for people that may not have considered this ever.

Several years ago the movie that got me to change my thinking was "What the Bleep do We Know" but I don't have access to watch it again and was wondering if anyone had resources or thoughts on how I could convey this to people who might need some more concrete evidence for this idea that we are all one.

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Old 10-17-2007, 11:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The scientific proof that we are all one just simply doesn't exist is any wide accepted fashion. Those who are skeptics will remain skeptics until they have a change of heart or the concept gets more widespread coverage.

The best way to explain the idea of oneness to a complete newbie is to provide examples from our global world. Everywhere you look and everything you do suggests that in some fashion we are all connected.

Some examples include: the internet; cell phones, text messaging and email; 24/7 global news channels; climate change; the United Nations; air travel; global commerce.

We live in a world where you can communicate with anyone within seconds; where you can travel anywhere within hours; where a local environmental, political or social issue can have worldly concerns.

We very much live in a global village. No, this doesn't offer concrete evidence of a unified energy source, but it's a fabulous start and a move in the right direction for anyone.

In any event, the end game of this conversation is really about others understanding that their actions -- large or small -- can pose positive or negative consequences to people who live on the other side of the planet.

It's also about understanding that at some point along the way, the actions you take will one way or another find their way back to you. This is the law of cause and effect -- or karma. For karma to be real we must all be connected.

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Old 10-18-2007, 02:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The law of conservation of energy states that energy can not be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another.

The first law of thermodymanics states that in any process, the total energy of the universe remains constant.
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The law of conservation of energy states that energy can not be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another.

The first law of thermodymanics states that in any process, the total energy of the universe remains constant.
While this is true, there's an element that you haven't included. It's entropy; that is, energy that's been used up and is now without form (heat, inertia, etc.) and is reduced to chaos.

From an online dictionary:

(Entropy is) a function of thermodynamic variables, as temperature, pressure, or composition, that is a measure of the energy that is not available for work during a thermodynamic process. A closed system evolves toward a state of maximum entropy.
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Which is the second law of thermodynamics "The entropy of an isolated system not in equilibrium will tend to increase over time, approaching a maximum value at equilibrium."

However, a microscopic system may exhibit fluctuations of entropy opposite to that dictated by the Second Law (see Fluctuation Theorem). In fact, the mathematical proof of the Fluctuation Theorem from time-reversible dynamics and the Axiom of Causality constitutes a proof of the Second Law. In a logical sense the Second Law thus ceases to be a "Law" of physics and instead becomes a theorem which is valid for large systems or long times.

Source: Laws of thermodynamics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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First you have to define what "all of us being a part of one energy source." means. By defining it you will have a lot of the reasons to believe it, I think.

Being a part of one energy source can be said to come from the big bang, I've thought. If you believe the big bang theroy then it's not too big a leap to say we all came out of that little pea the blew up into everything and as such we all came from the same thing, way back then.

Other wise the energy source that we are all part of is the non-physical or spiritual side of us. If it's non-physcial then it's all the same thing for everybody - the non-physical real is one thing.
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Depak Chopra's book "SynchroDestiny" has quite a bit on the quantum physics behind the idea that All is One. He explains the concepts of non-local intelligence in an easily understandable way.
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Well, I don't know what your religious/philosophical beliefs are, but this is the way I see it. The universe is matter and energy. No souls, spirits, angels, devils, alternate planes, none of that. Matter and energy. If that is true, then how are human in any way different from rocks or trees or air or water? Everything is matter and energy, human or rock. It is only when we conceptualize the universe, creating an idea about the universe, that things become different from other things. And ideas are not real, they are not matter and energy, and so everything is the same, everything is one. This might not be exactly what "What the Bleep Do We Know" says, but I belief it is more true, strictly speaking.
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Old 10-20-2007, 09:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
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There is no proof. But we are getting closer.

The coolest things in life are not proveable anway.

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Old 10-21-2007, 02:05 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Well, I don't know what your religious/philosophical beliefs are, but this is the way I see it. The universe is matter and energy. No souls, spirits, angels, devils, alternate planes, none of that. Matter and energy. If that is true, then how are human in any way different from rocks or trees or air or water? Everything is matter and energy, human or rock. It is only when we conceptualize the universe, creating an idea about the universe, that things become different from other things. And ideas are not real, they are not matter and energy, and so everything is the same, everything is one. This might not be exactly what "What the Bleep Do We Know" says, but I belief it is more true, strictly speaking.
I agree, but I do believe that a certain portion of the energy has consciousness, whether it's inhabiting a physical body or not. I didn't fully believe this until I encountered a disembodied "something" about ten years ago. When something invisible to the human eye interacts with you, it will make a believer out of you, whether you like it or not

As far as the physical world goes, everything we're made of came from the big bang and the resulting gas clouds that formed into stars, but all originated from the same singularity.

All of the elements are the result of the formation of the universe, nuclear fission of hydrogen gas, and the resulting elements that were and are being created and dispersed across the cosmos. It's all the same basic stuff "stuff". Add light and gravity to the equation and you have the universe that we're familiar with.

So, we're all connected at some level. I don't know how connected we are mentally, emotionally or telepathically. I mean, we still kill each other to settle political differences or to control resources, but OTOH, we all do it, and have been for a very long time, so maybe we're even connected at that level.

I think however we're connected, the majority of people don't realize, or even notice it.
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:06 AM   #11 (permalink)
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imho, what the bleep is considered by many to be the epitome of pseudoscience in a movie. some other places to look might be jung's collective unconscious and another hypothesis i read about in a book called "the connectivity hypothesis" by dr. Ervin Laszlo about an elementary field, like gravity or elecromagnetism, that creates coherence among systems of particles. it explains why galaxies all look alike and such, and it goes over theories of unified consciousness as well. good luck on your article.

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Old 10-23-2007, 10:26 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Could chaos be an energy that has reformed through the entropy?


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While this is true, there's an element that you haven't included. It's entropy; that is, energy that's been used up and is now without form (heat, inertia, etc.) and is reduced to chaos.

From an online dictionary:

(Entropy is) a function of thermodynamic variables, as temperature, pressure, or composition, that is a measure of the energy that is not available for work during a thermodynamic process. A closed system evolves toward a state of maximum entropy.
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:46 PM   #13 (permalink)
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The What the Bleep site has loads of info and resources.
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