There is no Law of Attraction. What do you think?

[4Mind4Life]

The Law Of Attraction will just remain a daydream if action isn't taken. Action / Hard Work + the daydream / visualization = dreams coming true.

[torilink]

Originally Posted by absvan

I beleive in the Law Of Attraction. There is a universal energy that will assist you in achieving your goals....but you have to act. I have seen a few people here talk about taking minimum or no action and getting what you want. I think thats B.S.

If you didnt get the job, you didnt get it for some reason. Its upto you to find what the reason is, make changes and look for the next opportunity.

Act and stay detached. If you get what you want great, if you dont get what you want, its still great. Practice detachment.

I think the reason some of us talk of no action or minimal action is because the body doesn't create.

It can be used to be physically creative (music, art, writing) but it is only the means to perceiving the full manifestation - the actual creation is purely through thought.

Music is conceived before written and perceived physically through the ear. Words are symbols with attached meaning conceived in thought prior to being physically written down and read with the eyes. A work of art is first conceived within the mind visually prior to being painted by the hands and seen by others.

It all begins with thought, whether it is the manifestation of the perfect mate or the piece of music in your head - creation is not of the body. The body is simply a tool to perceive the creation.

This is why action comes last, and as a means to experience the creation.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by torilink

I think the reason some of us talk of no action or minimal action is because the body doesn't create.

It can be used to be physically creative (music, art, writing) but it is only the means to perceiving the full manifestation - the actual creation is purely through thought.

Really? You don't have to do to much thinking to procreate.

It doesn't even take that much action, althought it's more fun that way.

[torilink]

Doh, I should have anticipated this response - lol

[Alex2007]

Originally Posted by 4Mind4Life

The Law Of Attraction will just remain a daydream if action isn't taken. Action / Hard Work + the daydream / visualization = dreams coming true.

This is a very superficial statement. Many people work hard, they try hard and others call them lazy simply because they don't produce efficiently. I can not agree with your statement mate. Sorry.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by torilink

I think the reason some of us talk of no action or minimal action is because the body doesn't create.

It can be used to be physically creative (music, art, writing) but it is only the means to perceiving the full manifestation - the actual creation is purely through thought.

Music is conceived before written and perceived physically through the ear. Words are symbols with attached meaning conceived in thought prior to being physically written down and read with the eyes. A work of art is first conceived within the mind visually prior to being painted by the hands and seen by others.

It all begins with thought, whether it is the manifestation of the perfect mate or the piece of music in your head - creation is not of the body. The body is simply a tool to perceive the creation.

This is why action comes last, and as a means to experience the creation.

I could not have said it better TL,

Max

[absvan]

Originally Posted by torilink

I think the reason some of us talk of no action or minimal action is because the body doesn't create.

It can be used to be physically creative (music, art, writing) but it is only the means to perceiving the full manifestation - the actual creation is purely through thought.

Music is conceived before written and perceived physically through the ear. Words are symbols with attached meaning conceived in thought prior to being physically written down and read with the eyes. A work of art is first conceived within the mind visually prior to being painted by the hands and seen by others.

It all begins with thought, whether it is the manifestation of the perfect mate or the piece of music in your head - creation is not of the body. The body is simply a tool to perceive the creation.

This is why action comes last, and as a means to experience the creation.

Yes I get your view but I partially agree with saying that its the mind alone that creates. Mind alone also doesnt create. You need both the mind and the body to create. Taking action is a part of creation. You cannot separate it.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by absvan

Yes I get your view but I partially agree with saying that its the mind alone that creates. Mind alone also doesnt create. You need both the mind and the body to create. Taking action is a part of creation. You cannot separate it.

I have to disagree. I can create all sorts of things with thought alone on purpose without lifting a finger.

As you get better at it, you notice it more and then you get better at it.

Max

[torilink]

I believe the only thing the body does is allow creation to be experienced on this level of form.

[absvan]

Originally Posted by Max Power

I have to disagree. I can create all sorts of things with thought alone on purpose without lifting a finger.

As you get better at it, you notice it more and then you get better at it.

Max

Try building muscle, without any extra physical activity from your current routine.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by absvan

Try building muscle, without any extra physical activity from your current routine.

Try making something happen just by thinking about it, if you think you can't then you're giving up control.

Max

[absvan]

Originally Posted by Max Power

Try making something happen just by thinking about it, if you think you can't then you're giving up control.

Max

That does not make much sense to me about giving up control....Whatever. Good for you if it works for you.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by absvan

That does not make much sense to me about giving up control....Whatever. Good for you if it works for you.

Most people love the idea of being able to have some control over their lives, but most don't want it all. This is especially true when we want something and don't want something.

I don't see how responsibility can be partial, seems to be a cop out and places us into victim mode.

It's either all of our creation or none of it is and if we have some control sometime, then something else has control and it's back to being a puppet/victim when we don't have control.

People can choose that to be the reality, but it seems to be rather pointless.

Max

[absvan]

Originally Posted by Max Power

Most people love the idea of being able to have some control over their lives, but most don't want it all. This is especially true when we want something and don't want something.

I don't see how responsibility can be partial, seems to be a cop out and places us into victim mode.

It's either all of our creation or none of it is and if we have some control sometime, then something else has control and it's back to being a puppet/victim when we don't have control.

People can choose that to be the reality, but it seems to be rather pointless.

Max

control, responsibility, victim??? Honestly, I dont get it. What are you talking about?

My question is "How can you build muscle without even moving a finger?". Have you done this or is this just one of your "could be possible" theories?

I dont mean to say that to achieve something you have to take "Massive action" but that action is definitely a part of creation. How much action should one take?? The person intending will know that.

[Lucas]

Originally Posted by Alex2007

Thinking about what you want your life to be like, can seriously distort your concious awareness and living at present moment.

As a result, you don't focus on the steps needed to bring the dream into reality and you get stuck on a daydreaming pattern.

There is no such a thing as law of attraction, same way like, there is no such a thing as "Free Will". There is One thing. ONENESS.

x

I cannot possibly see how you could get something, through LoA or otherwise, without first thinking about what you want. You build your present moment to result in the future being.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by absvan

I dont mean to say that to achieve something you have to take "Massive action" but that action is definitely a part of creation. How much action should one take?? The person intending will know that.

Exactly the person intending will know how hard or easy it will be before intending. All the fundamental thoughts about what's required to manifest a goal will dictate what's required.

The trick is to believe that no action or very little action is required, unless you like massive action and lots of effort.

Most PD followers know that the creative source has no self concern, so has no limitation. All the limitation is self imposed to allude to growth.

Max

[jeff3]

The LOA works even for those that think it doesn't , it just makes them right about being wrong. What the thinker thinks, the prover proves. I think it is going to get very interesting as more and more people begin to accept these beliefs, when the hundredth monkey gets it we'll be off and running. The movie "the secret" , while nothing new, has been marketed in a way that has put the LOA and basic principles directly into the collective consciousness, the stage is being set for a new world.