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Old 09-02-2007, 12:20 AM
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Default Question about "God"

For awhile, I've had a difficult time figuring all this God as energy, we are all a part of God, etc....
I'm a visual person and I was envisioning God as a person since I was a kid. We're conditioned that way, but something seemed wrong with that idea and I couldn't grasp it completely.

It struck me one day in my Qui Gong class, of which I'm extremely new to, when my instructor was talking of energy, that that is what God is. It's not a person (especially not a white man living in the sky). It's just an energy.

In trying to relate it to LOA, it made a lot more sense. You're trying to line up with an energy. Not a person who know's "what's right for you", or whatever.

I'm kind of stuck now though in still trying to make sense of it all.
I find myself wondering about the spiritual world. Like is it another world of "people" types but just of different energies. A less dense energy than us on "earth" perhaps? Does that energy serve as a guide for me?

I'm trying to change careers currently, and I suppose I'm trying to align myself with some guidance. Being a very visual person, I'm just trying to see how it works. The thought of going it solo is kind of scary, but if I had some guidance from something (like an angel?)..... that would be cool. And how can I tap into that guidance?

Any ideas from anyone who might be having similar thoughts?
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I can tell you if there are other worlds because I honestly don't know. You have to god is energy bit right, but what your missing is subjectivity...You assume this energy is a seperate thing to you. It is you. When people talk to God, or Angels, or whatever...its their higher-selves, the part of them hidden at the back of their consciousness...its all very confusing.
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The answer is practice and a clear intent to guide you. That is all. The rest will fall into place. In everything you do, practice will make what you are doing more efficient. Everything is a muscle. Your brain, your ability to communicate, your mind, your psychic abilities -- all muscles which can be strengthened by challenging them.

Since you are a visual person, I would sit or lie down and enter a relaxed alpha state with your eyes closed. Then ask your question and watch. Don't force the images, let them come to you. There is no distance for them to travel to reach you. They are already there. And then practice. Practice, practice, practice.

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Old 09-02-2007, 01:23 AM
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Listen to your inner voice, your intuition. When something resonates with you, you'll "know."
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Default Or alternatively....

You could just drop the God theory altogether. There is no evidence for God's existance. You can live a perfectly good life without him. We have recently found out that even Mother Teresa was an atheist.
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Just had to speak up for Mother Teresa She never said she was an atheist, in fact she was suffering from one of the longest and worst bouts of the "dark night of the soul", and still she kept up her faith until the very end. That takes more guts and faith than most people on this planet can muster -- to be severely depressed for decades, and still keep up hope, and work so hard to save the people of Calcutta at the same time.

Regarding how to view God, you can just think of him as the energy/reality underlying this physical universe, as well as the invisible spiritual planes/domains/universes that we, as limited human beings, are unable to sense. This energy is highly loving and intelligent, and by quieting our minds we can kind of tune into that underlying energy/reality -- since it is not different from our Mind (minus the noisy ego part ). In the other spiritual domains (less dense than physicality, more energy/thought based like you guessed), there are other friendly beings, angels, spirit guides, your higher Self, etc. who pop in and help you when you need a hand. When your mind is quiet, you can also try asking questions to them and see what replies you get. At the beginning it seems like you're imagining it, but when you consistently get smarter responses that what you can normally think of, you'll realize you're tapping into some greater wisdom
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There's a lot of ideas to mix, "You are God", that means you have the power to ... deal with that energy and alter the universe (is it a good definition? lol), "the collective subsconcious" that means that everyone's minds are united in some kind of force that... alters the universe too..., so you're not the only God....

so if you call "God" the power of altering the universe instead who's able to do it it would make sense... I mean altering the universe only using the mind...

Well to call God to "everyone" or yourself is somewhat confusing too... it looks more like a skill people have.

We could call it "our divinity", lol... I think I'm not gonna do it...
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Default Back to Mother Teresa

I don't think Mother Teresa worked to save the poor of Calcutta. At least she didn't do it in a way that would make sense to a non-believer. Her mission was to bring spiritual support rather than material assistance. If you don't subscribe to Catholicism then her activities just seem a bit pointless. (Though I fully accept that if you are a believer then she was doing what the doctrine suggests one should.)

She started her order at a remarkably young age and poured all her energy into it. When she matured and realised she didn't actually believe in God it must have been more than a bit depressing. Imagine - you have made a name and created an organisation in the service of that which you no longer believe in. It is little wonder she struggled to regain her faith. It is also clear that over a period of 40 years she never fully resolved this problem. Towards the end she was even being exorcised. She had almost literally been driven crazy.

A sad life. Certainly a confused one. And one which has contributed hardly anything of value. Does it cast any light on how we should live our lives? Probably not. But to return to the OP's question about "God". He probably doesn't exist. But if he does, be careful how you chose to follow him. Choose the wrong way and you could end up mad.
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I'm trying to change careers currently, and I suppose I'm trying to align myself with some guidance. Being a very visual person, I'm just trying to see how it works. The thought of going it solo is kind of scary, but if I had some guidance from something (like an angel?)..... that would be cool. And how can I tap into that guidance?

Any ideas from anyone who might be having similar thoughts?
God is everything and everyone, created of pure intelligent energy. Everything what we perceive with our physical senses is an illusion, a creation of our own consciousness...

God talks with us through our heart/our feelings/our intuition... if you ask a question and don`t try to figure out the answer with your mind you should get an answer from your intuition... but as we are not accustomed to do that it needs more or less practice to get this connection... our intuition always tries to guide us through our feelings, to do what feels right is the key and not to use your mind.

I know a very inspiring website created by Nick Arandes who is speaking about spiritual topics on his websites in his so called "Sunday Service" ...
i am sure you can get some inspiration there.

Here is the link: Success and Miracles Sunday Services on mp3

Enjoy !!!
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Your post was elegant, Sunshine. And
thanks for posting this link. I've got a
feeling i'll visit it often
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You could just drop the God theory altogether. There is no evidence for God's existance.
Not all that long ago, there was no evidence that there are actually ten planets in our solar system. Or that AIDS was spread by sex either. Or that there was even such a thing as a virus. Or that the earth was not flat.

There is still no scientific proof that your mother loves you.

Ahhh, the dangers of limiting yourself to the objectively provable, instead of considering possibility and potential.
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There is still no scientific proof that your mother loves you.
That's because there's no point wasting scientific money on things we already know are true.

P.s. My argument goes for God as well, whichever name you call him/her/it.
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I think most beliefs about god are emotionally charged i.e based in fear or need, or placed there as a matter of fact in childhood.

I challenged all my beliefs and threw them all out to begin again. No prior conceptions other than the 'possibility of a creator of all things'.

It wasn't easy and has taken years of introspection and still I am not convinced there is a god. However, I am convinced we can create one.
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The fact that "God exists" (or doesn't) can seem like a social construct. Many religious groups have sprung up with their own interpretation of what is right and teaching about how you should see it. The fact so many perceptions are presented is a call to your inner spirit to figure things out for yourself. What tools or other means you use to do so will be your choice: rolleyes:

Its also worth noting that society dictates what kinds of needs you should have from job, family, to material acquisitions or experiences. So many apparent choices may cloud your view and prompt your judgement.
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Mother Terisa is someone whom I have the greatest respect and admiration for, I agree her faith carried her through her entire life...

the beautiful thing is when I look at her, I see Christs hands and feet and heart in action!!! and you don't have to be catholic to see that

the sweetest blessings always flow through hands who serve him here below:-)
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We now know that Mother Teresa was afflicted by doubts for 40 years, so you can't say that her faith carried her through her whole life.

In her last years she was so crazy that she was subjected to an exorcism.

The most charitable thing you can say that the evidence about the value of her faith to her was ambiguous.

By comparison, in Mother Teresa's lifetime smallpox has been eliminated from the Earth. This was the result not of faith in an unprovable entity, but by the careful observation of the way the world really is.

Who needs God?
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The fact that "God exists" (or doesn't) can seem like a social construct. Many religious groups have sprung up with their own interpretation of what is right and teaching about how you should see it...
Its also worth noting that society dictates what kinds of needs you should have from job, family, to material acquisitions or experiences. So many apparent choices may cloud your view and prompt your judgement.
i totally agree with what you say... what God really is has nothing to do with what all these religious groups are teaching...
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We now know that Mother Teresa was afflicted by doubts for 40 years, so you can't say that her faith carried her through her whole life.
I respectfully disagree......... the fact that she had doubts in her faith, is exactly what made her faith so great.......... if there is no struggle it isn't authentic, true faith is a struggle
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Well here's the link, scientific evidence that the Earth was created by God in 6 days and is not billions of years old.

The Age of the Earth, Seminar 1, Dr. Kent Hovind
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Well here's the link, scientific evidence that the Earth was created by God in 6 days and is not billions of years old.

The Age of the Earth, Seminar 1, Dr. Kent Hovind
The Earth is about 4.5 billion years old. The evidence for this is overwhelming.
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The Earth is about 4.5 billion years old. The evidence for this is overwhelming.
Sorry, but that's exactly the response I'd expect from someone who believes Earth is 4.5 billion years old; state that it is a fact and not explain why it is a fact. If you have some scientific evidence that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old I'd love to see it. If what scientists say is true the Earth is getting older by 40 years per minute. Carbon dating doesn't work by the way, you can find that out half way through this video:

100 reasons why evolution is so stupid.

You'll find that things that were only a couple years old dated several hundred thousands of years.

Sorry I'm not trying to tell you what to think but if you're going to say something is wrong I believe it should be backed up with facts.
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