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shivraj 08-30-2007 06:24 PM

The Golden Rule
 
The Golden Rule mentioned in all religions is, "Do unto others, as how you would want others to do unto you". It is the first message of every religion, every great teacher.

Learn to forgive others as well as yourself. When you forgive others, you are not doing a favour to them. In fact, it is a favour you do on yourself. Thus favour yourself. Learn to forgive.

The golden rule is best interpreted as saying: "Treat others only in ways that you're willing to be treated in the same exact situation." To apply it, you would have to imagine yourself in the exact place of the other person on the receiving end of the action. If you act in a given way toward another, and yet are unwilling to be treated that way in the same circumstances, then you violate the rule.

To apply the golden rule, you need to understand the meaning of stepping into the other person's shoes. The first step is to simply be aware of the need to understand other people's viewpoint. Next time you have a conversation, instead of jumping ahead with what you planned to say, whether written or verbal, stop and consider what it might be like to be in the other person's shoes. If appropriate, you may choose to spend some time gaining his understanding by asking questions and listening - truly listening - to their responses. Consider their perspective, and how they may feel about things. The more you practice stepping into other peoples' shoes, the more you'll experience the results and benefits and meaningful, powerful communication. Once you have learnt this step, then all you have to do is to ask yourself whether in that place if someone were to treat you in a way that you are just about to treat this person, will it do?

What is written above is what many have said about the golden rule. The golden rule as taught in Tej Gyan Foundation is very different. It is at an altogether different plane. "Do unto others as you would want others to do unto who you really are." This variation of the golden rule can be explained thus. First know who you are. You are unlimited, timeless, spaceless - the Self. You are the source. Now behave with others seeing that they too are the source - the Self. So that they too respond to you as the Self - who you really are.

Also ponder on the golden rule as mentioned by all religions. That alone is enough to bring social transformation.

Christianity In everything, do to others, as you would have them do to you; for this is the law
.. Jesus, Mathew

Buddhism
Treat not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful
.. Udana

Hinduism
This is the sum of duty : Do not do to others what would cause pain if done to you
.. Mahabharata

Sikhism I am a stranger to no one : and no one is stranger to me. Indeed I am a friend to all.
.. Guru Granth Saheb

Islam
Not one of you truly believes until you wish for others what you wish for yourself.
.. The Prophet Mohammad

Jainism
One should treat all creatures in the world as one would like to be treated
.. Mahavir Sutrakritanga

ppedersen 08-31-2007 12:10 PM

In Scientology, we also have the Golden Rule. One for the positive aspect, one for negative.
Negative: "Try Not to Do Things to Others That You Would Not Like Them to Do to You."
Positive: "Try to Treat Others As You Would Want Them to Treat You."

This is covered in The Way to Happiness, by L. Ron Hubbard. The Way to Happiness

Zukin 08-31-2007 10:14 PM

I like the platinum rule: Treat others the way they want to be treated.

Akashic_Librarian 08-31-2007 10:17 PM

how about the super-duper platinum, ruby encrusted, chrome digizoid rule...

Don't pee into the wind...

Its not mentioned in religions in that terminology...

but if you get past the instant reaction of "its just stupid" then it does make a lot of sense as a metaphor....

Addict 09-01-2007 05:23 PM

Quote:

I like the platinum rule: Treat others the way they want to be treated.
this rule is highly effective

Brutha 09-01-2007 11:54 PM

In general the platinum rule is a lot better.
The golden rule lead to a lot of problem.
For example the spanish executioner who themselved would have wanted that someone does everything they can to save their own soul, and therefore tried to do the same for muslims.
That included torturing them until they "convert" to christianity.
It is a very dangerous idea to assume that other people want the same things as you, because it leads to intolerans about differences.

Groundless 09-02-2007 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Akashic_Librarian (Post 106279)
how about the super-duper platinum, ruby encrusted, chrome digizoid rule...

Don't pee into the wind...

Its not mentioned in religions in that terminology...

but if you get past the instant reaction of "its just stupid" then it does make a lot of sense as a metaphor....


But but but

I wanted to be showered in gold, not in golden showers.....

:D

songwriter 09-02-2007 03:43 PM

I discussed the Golden Rule in some board some years ago... I was the only one "against it", because of similar reasons than yours. The other person doesn't want what you want, doesn't like what you like, etc.

For instance if you're a masochist, then... you may guess the rest...

I would say "Treat the others, like THEY want to be treated" or so.
The Platinum Rule, :-)

songwriter 09-02-2007 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zukin (Post 106278)
I like the platinum rule: Treat others the way they want to be treated.

Hey, I didn't read you, lol. A synch???.... lol. I wrote that years ago in a board.

brandi 09-02-2007 04:05 PM

be generous in your love.

extend one another grace and appreciation.

:)

Stu 09-02-2007 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by songwriter (Post 106762)
I discussed the Golden Rule in some board some years ago... I was the only one "against it", because of similar reasons than yours. The other person doesn't want what you want, doesn't like what you like, etc.

For instance if you're a masochist, then... you may guess the rest...

I would say "Treat the others, like THEY want to be treated" or so.
The Platinum Rule, :-)

What if I want to be treated masochistically? Maybe I'm depressed and I want to be killed? Maybe I want to be treated like the second coming of christ?

Both rules (golden and platinum) have their flaws if theyre taken to the extremes, but both are basically meant to promote equality and respect for your fellow human being. It doesnt really matter which one you use, as long as you have good intentions, things are probably going to work out for the best.

songwriter 09-03-2007 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 106867)
What if I want to be treated masochistically? Maybe I'm depressed and I want to be killed? Maybe I want to be treated like the second coming of christ?

Both rules (golden and platinum) have their flaws if theyre taken to the extremes, but both are basically meant to promote equality and respect for your fellow human being. It doesnt really matter which one you use, as long as you have good intentions, things are probably going to work out for the best.

And that's why I don't believe in enclosed beliefs. "here are the golden rules", "the words of wisdom", etc. No matter how many "masters" or prophets told and tell their ones.

Not in Steve words either. :) (or Tony Robbins or whoever) Of course. Not anyone words... everyone is partially wrong, partially right. Me, you, and Jesus, except for religious people that prefer to adopt dogmas and such. Some people do the same in PD, sometimes it seems like a religion, following the words of someone 100%. I don't think it's bad, some people need leaders, especially before the courage of thinking and deciding for themselves.

"Think for yourself, cause I won't be there with you" The Beatles. Not Steve, Tony Robbins, Jesus or whoever is gonna be there to be asked when you have a doubt...

What Steve says first at his page... is "That means having the responsability of taking control of your conscious personal development..." or so. I see that like "It's you that has to think, I only say my point of view to help you think..."

Billy 09-10-2007 09:57 AM

I like the golden rule I was tought as a child." He who has the gold makes the rules"


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