Porn: why do parents hate it?

[jsot]

I've been thinking about this for a while and I see no non religous reason why parents would be upset about their children looking at porn. The only reason I can see is that some parents don't like their kids growing up too fast or whatever. Could someone shed some light on this? Is it just because of some stigma in American society against porn?

[Angela]

Because they want you to go out there and procreate! Stop wasting your precious bodily fluids in an onanistic manner! Breed! You are here to provide grandchildren.

[Brad Isaac]

I don't like the idea of children looking at porn for the same reason I don't like rape. The imagery in porn is disturbing to children who do not have the maturity to deal with it. It is a loss of innocence that is completely avoidable.

Plus, children act out much of what they see on TV. As a society, do we really need children 6, 7, 8 years old having sex? It has nothing to do with America, at all by the way - I am not familiar with any culture on Earth that prides itself on high porn viewing by children.

[Amadeus]

There is a strong link between young kids and teenagers viewing porn and addiction to porn as adults. I link children and young teenagers being introducted to porn as the same as them being molested.
Porn degrades women and the human body. Women are being viewed as sexual object and not people.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by Angela

Because they want you to go out there and procreate! Stop wasting your precious bodily fluids in an onanistic manner! Breed! You are here to provide grandchildren.

Angela... you're my main man and I usually always agree with you... but would you want you seventeen years to go out there and "procreate"...???
.

[Advent Shade]

I don't like the idea of children looking at porn for the same reason I don't like rape. The imagery in porn is disturbing to children who do not have the maturity to deal with it. It is a loss of innocence that is completely avoidable.

By children do you include teenagers/anyone under the age of consent? Because I was never disturbed by the imagery in the pornography I managed to get my hands on (admittedly what I saw was pretty tame compared to some of the stuff I've since seen... like Hentai for example *shudder*).

Banukedified! (Did I invent a new word?)

What a cute word

[Scott]

Originally Posted by Advent Shade

What a cute word

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[healthymind]

Aside from my personal judgements about porn, theres a very good reason why you don't want to spend too much time focusing on it. Porn and it's associated low-grade energy often comes with a package that includes other low-grade energy activities. If you put your attention there you will begin living your life at this low level and draw into your experience lots of "interesting" things which may not be to your liking. It's also addictive, hormone release in large amounts on regular basis, and you may find it difficult to function with clarity much like any drug addict.

Parents are often against porn because they are attempting to protect their children from harm. Since there isn't a lot real positive about that sort of vibration I can't say I blame them.

[Akashic_Librarian]

Porn is healthy...would you want a load of 13-18 year olds going around having sex ALL the time? Pornography is the perfect counter-balance to this young-sex culture thats growing...have you seen childrens clothes these days! Alot of clothes from age 7+ up for girls looks like it should be on whores, and the boys...well...its not as bad for boys...

Anyway I am certainly for porn.

In the words of Dr. Cox.

If you took the pron off the internet, there would only be one website left and it would be called "bringbacktheporn.com"

[NotesMaeve]

Originally Posted by Akashic_Librarian

Porn is healthy...would you want a load of 13-18 year olds going around having sex ALL the time? Pornography is the perfect counter-balance to this young-sex culture thats growing...have you seen childrens clothes these days! Alot of clothes from age 7+ up for girls looks like it should be on whores, and the boys...well...its not as bad for boys...

Anyway I am certainly for porn.

In the words of Dr. Cox.

If you took the pron off the internet, there would only be one website left and it would be called "bringbacktheporn.com"

Whew! I'm glad someone isn't quite so anti-porn. I was starting to feel like the pervert I am.

I think when porn or sex become isolated, weird things that we treat as inherently dirty, then they become addictions. Porn is no more degrading to women that men, and I certainly don't find it degrading towards humans. It's about relief and enjoyment without burden of having to impress/care for someone else.

Teenagers will have sex whether there's porn or not. That's a deep-rooted biological desire. They'll certainly masturbate at least, which is safer, and I see nothing wrong with masturbatory aides.

[finandom]

Well, I think it is bad to expose this porn stuff too early to a child. Their mind may not be able to handle and accept this kind of information very well because they are too young for this.

[NotesMaeve]

Originally Posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

Well, I think it is bad to expose this porn stuff too early to a child. Their mind may not be able to handle and accept this kind of information very well because they are too young for this.

There's a difference between showing a 10 year old some porn and a teenager seeking it out. My god, I was seducing professors at 16/17. I think I was ready for porn.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Shamou

Angela... you're my main man and I usually always agree with you... but would you want you seventeen years to go out there and "procreate"...???
.

Shamou, I guess the satiric tone I had in my mind did not come through in my post. I was aiming for a lighthearted reference to a social tendency.

I myself am gratefully child-free.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by Angela

Shamou, I guess the satiric tone I had in my mind did not come through in my post. I was aiming for a lighthearted reference to a social tendency.

You have such an elegant way of telling me that I am a little dense under the hat that I cannot help but adore you... Bwahahaha...
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[Advent Shade]

Here's a couple of paragraphs from A.C. Graylings book 'The Reason of Things' on the subject of sex and pornograph;

If sexual relations are ever perfunctory and unimaginative, unsatisfying or downright frustrating, exploitative, furtive, sleazy or violent, it will have a great deal to do with the meddling hand of moralism. If there is a troubling level of sexually transmitted disease in society, it will again have much to do with moralism. If there are unwanted pregnancies, especially among single girls and young women, and a high rate of abortions, it will yet again be because of moralism. Why? Because of the counterproductive effect of moralism's futile endeavour to limit and control sexuality by denial, by limiting knowledge and opportunity, and by directing the sexual side of human nature into as anodyne and routine a channel as possible. Moralists think that if they expose people - and especially the young, those volcanoes of hormones - to as little stimulation as possible by censoring sexual images and references, and by keeping them as much in the dark and as much under a sense of prohibition as they can, they will thereby squeeze sex out of daily life, or at any rate keep it bottled.

But exactly there lies the mistake. Imprisoning sexual feelings is an invariable recipe for potentiating them. Ignorance about how to deal with them means that when they express themselves they might do so negatively, even harmfully - and with serious consequences: as when the combination of secrecy and shame with urgency results in couples not having contraception available when they need it.

That's a lot of text I know, but I really couldn't see any way of editing it down, it really is too beautiful to carry out such blunt mutilation. A.C. Grayling is a fantastic philosopher and author.

[Matthew Shea]

In my mind, a healthy attitude toward sex and acceptance of pornography are two distinctly different things. The #1 problem with porn is that it doesn't reflect reality. Pornography typically shows only the best looking women, something that most women can't compete with. It also tries to pass off behaviors that would be degrading or offensive to many people as if they were completely normal. (Guys, how many of your women let you come on their face? Gals, how many of you would even allow this?)

Morality aside, the messages being sent by pornography aren't realistic. It's essentially pure fantasy most of the time and has the effect of dumbing down your desire to socialize with real people, replacing it with a quick high spurred along by an unrealistic fantasy.

Now I'm not saying you can't enjoy porn, but you have to realize what you're looking at and know that it can be very addictive. If it's starting to replace your social life, it's time to re-evaluate.

[NotesMaeve]

Originally Posted by Matthew Shea

Pornography typically shows only the best looking women, something that most women can't compete with.

You are the sweetest thing ever. This made my day as someone who worked in the adult industries, but, honey, there's hair, make-up, lighting, and a whole lotta stuff. I have my stretchmarks and my bad skin days. But right now I could kiss you!

I guess I've always viewed beauty in a different way. What matters is that someone is beautiful/special to you, not that they're mainstream beautiful.

It also tries to pass off behaviors that would be degrading or offensive to many people as if they were completely normal... Gals, how many of you would even allow this?

I'd be totally fine with it. It's just semen. Washes right off with soap and water. I won't let myself be beaten or tortured or put through pain or perform humiliating, weird, fetishistic acts (no funnel/Depends/iron maidens please!), but if it gets my partner really hot to come on my face, so?

Morality aside, the messages being sent by pornography aren't realistic. It's essentially pure fantasy most of the time and has the effect of dumbing down your desire to socialize with real people, replacing it with a quick high spurred along by an unrealistic fantasy.

I like porn, but admittedly, I like nothing more than spending time with my current partner, having our little intellectual discussions and our stupid immature jokes, havign crazy sex, and then watching him play the drums. It's so much more rewarding.

Now I'm not saying you can't enjoy porn, but you have to realize what you're looking at and know that it can be very addictive. If it's starting to replace your social life, it's time to re-evaluate.

We can agree here. (And I'm going to kiss you for indirectly calling me hot, you little hottentot!)

[Blueskied]

Originally Posted by jsot

I've been thinking about this for a while and I see no non religous reason why parents would be upset about their children looking at porn.

Look at it the other way: Wouldn't it be embarrassing to you if your parents watched porn?
Or the thought that they actually have sex. *yuck*

[Matthew Shea]

Originally Posted by NotesMaeve

You are the sweetest thing ever. This made my day as someone who worked in the adult industries, but, honey, there's hair, make-up, lighting, and a whole lotta stuff. I have my stretchmarks and my bad skin days. But right now I could kiss you!

Thank you! A virtual kiss back 'atcha! What you described is kinda' my point though. Porn shows you glitz, glamour, hair, makeup, "just the right angles", etc. They don't show you anything unflattering. Real life is sometimes unflattering. You have to learn to fully love and accept someone despite that, though.

I guess I've always viewed beauty in a different way. What matters is that someone is beautiful/special to you, not that they're mainstream beautiful.

100% agreed!

I'd be totally fine with it. It's just semen. Washes right off with soap and water. I won't let myself be beaten or tortured or put through pain or perform humiliating, weird, fetishistic acts (no funnel/Depends/iron maidens please!), but if it gets my partner really hot to come on my face, so?

In my experience, most girls (mine included) don't like to be exposed to any more semen than they really have to.

I like porn, but admittedly, I like nothing more than spending time with my current partner, having our little intellectual discussions and our stupid immature jokes, havign crazy sex, and then watching him play the drums. It's so much more rewarding.



We can agree here. (And I'm going to kiss you for indirectly calling me hot, you little hottentot!)

I also agree completely that spending time with a partner offers a MUCH larger reward than a computer screen ever could. Even if you have to put up with "Sex and the City" every once in a while.

[NotesMaeve]

Originally Posted by Blueskied

Look at it the other way: Wouldn't it be embarrassing to you if your parents watched porn?
Or the thought that they actually have sex. *yuck*

Actually, my landlady is 60-ish, and she and her sweetie have an active, happy sex life. I think it's wonderful! I wish my folks had that. Sex into the golden years can be rewarding and wonderful and healthy.

Originally Posted by Matthew Shea

Porn shows you glitz, glamour, hair, makeup, "just the right angles", etc. They don't show you anything unflattering. Real life is sometimes unflattering.

Agreed. I had this discussion with my ex, who in the end, harped he was disappointed with me. IRL, I get the occasional zit and have stretchmarks because I don't put on stage makeup on my body.

Why do we forgive flaws in person, or why should we? We shouldn't unless we can be really sexually free with a person. And I don't think we can really be uninhibited and have fun until we like ourselves. I'd argue that an addiction to porn and preferring it over a real partner is a self-esteem issue.

In my experience, most girls (mine included) don't like to be exposed to any more semen than they really have to.

Biggest laugh of the day! OMG! Seriously, sperm is affected by diet and a number of other things, but if the guy's eating well and in good shape, it's fun stuff. I'll never sleep with someone who eats a lot of processed food ever again. Ew. Ew. Ew.

I also agree completely that spending time with a partner offers a MUCH larger reward than a computer screen ever could. Even if you have to put up with "Sex and the City" every once in a while.

I'm not huge into the concept of finding a life partner (might happen, might not for me). But it's that real human connection with the physical and emotional I think we crave. I'm lucky to have found a couple of those in a lifetime.

[healthymind]

Actually my dislike for porn has nothing to do with judgements about sex and morality. Personally I don't see any reason why we should be sex-phobic at all. I'm not in for sex only after marriage, staying a virgin and all that. And I totally agree that teens are into sex, why would they not be? Especially when it's a major turning point in life.

I'm coming from personal experience here when I say it's not a very satisfying focus to have in life. The time in my life when I was largely focused on sex and porn was a part of that was the time when I was least happy. Purely from the point of view that my relationships were based on sex alone and my partners while a match in that department had other less savoury habits that I found out about later and regretted.

I'm all for sex, even any flavour of it that you personally want, but that alone is a bit hollow and can have a strong emotional impact that isn't very positive. I didn't say I agreed with parents being porn-phobic just that I understood the intention beind it.

[finandom]

Originally Posted by NotesMaeve

There's a difference between showing a 10 year old some porn and a teenager seeking it out. My god, I was seducing professors at 16/17. I think I was ready for porn.

All I can say is "Cool".