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Old 08-02-2007, 04:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is a link I picked up from Ilya.

Karpman drama triangle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think it goes well with a lot of the discussions we've been having lately about non-violent communication, and wanted to get everyone's thoughts.
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Old 08-02-2007, 05:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm not playing.
You picked the link from Google, I just mentioned the term.

Sorry, Dan, nothing personal, but I'd like to use this post to illustrate the menace and power of Karpman's triangle. And your post makes a great illustration.

What I did in the first two lines is demonstrated the one and the most efficient way how you avoid falling into Karpman's triangle. Just refuse to play along and clearly divide responsibilities.

Dan, unknowingly and unintentionally, protected himself with my name, while offering this link. He then attached his opinion to this link. Just by not reacting, I'm accepting part of his responsibility for this post.
If later something goes wrong, and someone attacks him say for posting this link and saying that all this Karpman mambo-jambo is a big pile of BS, he can just say - hey, this is Ilya's idea, he brought this up. And the funny thing that this will shift the blame to me.
Now, I don't really expect anything happening here, but silently accepting uninvited praise, primes a nasty time-bomb just waiting to explode.
So dealing with Karpman's is really tricky. You have to constantly pay attention.
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Interesting.

@Ilya - After I submitted my inital post I went back and modified it to give you credit. I didn't want you to think I was taking all the accolades for bringing a really neat new concept to the forum.

I was assuming all the feedback about it would be positive, not negative, but it was still an attempt to insulate myself from you thinking that I was just reposting something you found.
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Yeah, thanks, Dan. I'm sure your intents were most noble. Sorry for putting you on the spot.
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What do you mean Angela? And who are talking to?
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What do you mean Angela? And who are talking to?
"You may be right" is one of the suggested ways to extricate yourself from the triangle. It also happens that Erin suggested that line awhile ago as a handy way to avoid getting caught up in a mucky conversation -- she had an intuitive grasp of Karpman! (which sounds like a superhero to me, by the way -- an orange and white costume, big lips, and the ability to swim in circles for hours.)
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"You may be right" is one of the suggested ways to extricate yourself from the triangle. It also happens that Erin suggested that line awhile ago as a handy way to avoid getting caught up a mucky conversation -- she had an intuitive grasp of Karpman! (which sounds like a superhero to me, by the way -- an orange and white costume, big lips, and the ability to swim in circles for hours.)
Steve wrote about it too,

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...se-mindedness/
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Yeah, thanks, Dan. I'm sure your intents were most noble.
You shouldn't be so paranoid! I'm just trying to bring value to the forum.

Sometimes it feels like no one even appreciates that.


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