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Gracestars · 10-15-2010, 03:12 AM

In light of the recent thread on rape which caused some people confusion and others frustration, I thought I'd share some helpful guidelines on how not to rape people, as set out by one of my favourite satirists. This will be of particular relevance (and bittersweet amusement) to the aussie forum members.

Ben Pobjie's Wonderful World Of Objects: How Not To Rape People: A Handy Guide For Modern Men And Footballers

ssandra · 10-15-2010, 03:22 AM

When I first saw this title I though.. ok, there we go, another person who's asking for a ban...

But... very funny article indeed

Thanks for the laugh! (as a woman, I'm not in the habit of raping people in general. But I guess if I was a guy and a football player, this would come in handy!).

NDN Scholar · 10-15-2010, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ssandra

...as a woman, I'm not in the habit of raping people in general.

Heeeeey, I know some pretty wicked women out there in the world.

ssandra · 10-15-2010, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NDN Scholar

Heeeeey, I know some pretty wicked women out there in the world.

I said it was not a habit... I mean, there are always those special occasions...

VinceG · 10-15-2010, 03:36 AM

Man, where was this guide 30 years ago before I went to prison?

rei · 10-15-2010, 03:58 AM

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scientists have discovered there is actually technically a difference between "drinking a lot of alcohol" and "saying yes I want to have sex with you".

Ha, classic. This was a fun, clever read, thanks Grace.

Vince, I think my last non-rapist met you while you were in prison. He's over here nodding. He remembers the non-romantic moment you two had.

Angela · 10-15-2010, 04:24 AM

That first comment was very funny... "I'm not raping a woman right now. It's easy once you get the hang of it."

votoshka · 10-15-2010, 04:33 AM

It is rather funny!

But there are some truths to it...

There was a recent case in my town of a woman who claimed to have been raped by a couple of guys, when all indications was she was willingly with them (albeit drunk...probably very drunk). In the end, the court decided that she wasn't raped.

Problem is, guy gets it on with drunk girl... girl is too drunk to know what the f*&k she is doing... girl ends up having sex with guy (while still apparently conscious but not really with it)...girl wakes up in the morning going "ZOMG I WAS RAPED!" Guy is like

Anyway, I particularly liked this line: "Practise not having sex with people. I know it's hard - sometimes you just look down and it's like, whoops, I'm having sex with this girl, how did that happen?"

James81 · 10-15-2010, 04:38 AM

Reading this thread just reminded me how ADD ridden I am.

I was looking for that bit that George Carlin did about rape on youtube...and then I saw some Louis CK bit about it...and then I just started watching clips of Louis CK that I thought looked funny and before I knew it, 90 minutes had passed and I do not even remember where it went, but I've been laughing!

Cochonette · 10-15-2010, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by votoshka

It is rather funny!

But there are some truths to it...

There was a recent case in my town of a woman who claimed to have been raped by a couple of guys, when all indications was she was willingly with them (albeit drunk...probably very drunk). In the end, the court decided that she wasn't raped.

Problem is, guy gets it on with drunk girl... girl is too drunk to know what the f*&k she is doing... girl ends up having sex with guy (while still apparently conscious but not really with it)...girl wakes up in the morning going "ZOMG I WAS RAPED!" Guy is like

Anyway, I particularly liked this line: "Practise not having sex with people. I know it's hard - sometimes you just look down and it's like, whoops, I'm having sex with this girl, how did that happen?"

Hmm... I don't want to draw any strict judgment against one for drunkenness, but I don't like it at all and it somehow seems irresponsible... likewise, having sex with a severely drunk person seems irresponsible. It seems very irresponsible if one is sober. Is a severely drunk person really in a state to consent? Sex is something we have evolved intricate mating methods for, it is so central to our evolution, and it is so intimate of a bodily exchange... it just seems uncool to be having sex with someone who cannot engage in any of that with any reasonable level of coherency. This is what sex ed should be about, not abstinence.

Elrond · 10-15-2010, 07:14 AM

The last thread, this was the most touchy touchy subject ever. Here, everyone's all lol about it.

Sain Outre Longfang · 10-15-2010, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rei

Ha, classic. This was a fun, clever read, thanks Grace.

Vince, I think my last non-rapist met you while you were in prison. He's over here nodding. He remembers the non-romantic moment you two had.

Dang. Reminds me of a Dave Chapelle skit. lol
YouTube - Dave Chappelle - Man Rape

votoshka · 10-15-2010, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochonette

Hmm... I don't want to draw any strict judgment against one for drunkenness, but I don't like it at all and it somehow seems irresponsible... likewise, having sex with a severely drunk person seems irresponsible. It seems very irresponsible if one is sober. Is a severely drunk person really in a state to consent? Sex is something we have evolved intricate mating methods for, it is so central to our evolution, and it is so intimate of a bodily exchange... it just seems uncool to be having sex with someone who cannot engage in any of that with any reasonable level of coherency. This is what sex ed should be about, not abstinence.

I'm not saying it's a good idea to have sex with a drunk woman, but I wouldn't define it as rape either. And most times, the guy's not completely sober either (but probably not so off his head that he can't perform). For some guys it's a dream come true finding a willing woman, even if she is drunk. Drunk women can also get really into it, without really knowing what they're doing IYKWIM... they can sort of let it happen. Of course, regrets come later.

The real moral of the story is don't drink so much alcohol that you lose all your inhibitions and have no idea what you're doing. That's asking for trouble!

Andrew Gubb · 10-15-2010, 09:53 AM

Lol.

Gracestars · 10-16-2010, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Elrond

The last thread, this was the most touchy touchy subject ever. Here, everyone's all lol about it.

Maybe you missed the joke, and the point.

I'm glad the rest of you enjoyed it!

Elrond · 10-16-2010, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Gracestars

Maybe you missed the joke, and the point.

I'm glad the rest of you enjoyed it!

I got the joke. But the point? Is there a point to this besides satire?

votoshka · 10-16-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Elrond

I got the joke. But the point? Is there a point to this besides satire?

Because despite the satire, there was a certain degree of truth in it?

10-15-2010, 03:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
Gracestars Family Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,011	How not to rape people. In light of the recent thread on rape which caused some people confusion and others frustration, I thought I'd share some helpful guidelines on how not to rape people, as set out by one of my favourite satirists. This will be of particular relevance (and bittersweet amusement) to the aussie forum members. Ben Pobjie's Wonderful World Of Objects: How Not To Rape People: A Handy Guide For Modern Men And Footballers Last edited by Gracestars; 10-15-2010 at 03:17 AM.

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10-15-2010, 03:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
ssandra Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mexico City Posts: 11,168	When I first saw this title I though.. ok, there we go, another person who's asking for a ban... But... very funny article indeed Thanks for the laugh! (as a woman, I'm not in the habit of raping people in general. But I guess if I was a guy and a football player, this would come in handy!).

10-15-2010, 03:36 AM	#5 (permalink)
VinceG Family Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,703	Man, where was this guide 30 years ago before I went to prison?

10-15-2010, 04:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
Angela Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 22,520	That first comment was very funny... "I'm not raping a woman right now. It's easy once you get the hang of it."

10-15-2010, 04:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
votoshka Family Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 2,547	It is rather funny! But there are some truths to it... There was a recent case in my town of a woman who claimed to have been raped by a couple of guys, when all indications was she was willingly with them (albeit drunk...probably very drunk). In the end, the court decided that she wasn't raped. Problem is, guy gets it on with drunk girl... girl is too drunk to know what the f*&k she is doing... girl ends up having sex with guy (while still apparently conscious but not really with it)...girl wakes up in the morning going "ZOMG I WAS RAPED!" Guy is like Anyway, I particularly liked this line: "Practise not having sex with people. I know it's hard - sometimes you just look down and it's like, whoops, I'm having sex with this girl, how did that happen?"

10-15-2010, 04:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
James81 Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 12,690	Reading this thread just reminded me how ADD ridden I am. I was looking for that bit that George Carlin did about rape on youtube...and then I saw some Louis CK bit about it...and then I just started watching clips of Louis CK that I thought looked funny and before I knew it, 90 minutes had passed and I do not even remember where it went, but I've been laughing!

10-15-2010, 07:14 AM	#11 (permalink)
Elrond Retired Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,112	The last thread, this was the most touchy touchy subject ever. Here, everyone's all lol about it.

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