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Old 10-12-2010, 12:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Well the important part is, I manned up and asked her out.

So about 30 minutes ago I manned up and asked out this girl I have a thing for. I know her from some classes last year and also she's in two of my classes this semester. We're both seniors in college at the moment.


I walked up to her after class in the parking lot next to the building. She was talking to a female friend and so I just decided to ask her right there in front of her friend.


And then the :/ happened.

She smiled and did the giggly girl thing and said she isn't dating right now. Lamesauce.

I know a lot of annoying pickup artist people would say "dude she totally rejected you" but in this case, I don't know if she sincerely meant "I'm just not dating anyone right now" or "This is a nice way of saying no". I would like to take her words as she said them, but I don't really know what to think.


Despite the rejection, I am trying to look at the positive side. Asking her out definitely took some courage and I literally had to almost yell at myself in a quiet vocie as she was walking away "No Curtis, you are asking her out RIGHT NOW!" lol... For a second I almost let her walk away and ALMOST chickened out again. But not this time!


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Does anybody have advice? Suggestions? Comfort for my broken heart which isn't that broken but is definitely disappointed?
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So, right after she gave her lamesauce answer, what was the next thing you did/said?
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What sort of advice are you looking for?
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Old 10-12-2010, 12:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Congrats for Manning up! So did the feeling of "If I don't do this I'll regret it" come to mind at all?

I'm glad you faced your fear. My brother yesterday did that and I personally know the feeling.

I'm just somewhat confused.

How did you ask her out? I almost got the impression that you asked her out to be your GF. Yet I don't think thats right.. Not sure. Would you please clarify?

Also you state that you "Know her" from two of your classes have you talked to her anytime during the classes?

Did she know your name at least?

Thanks.

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You might want to adjust your perspective on "rejection."

She declined your invitation. That's all. You're disappointed when someone can't make it to your birthday party, right? That's all it is. She's gonna miss out on a great party, but you still get to have the party -- perhaps with a different guest.
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Old 10-12-2010, 12:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
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congratulations!

it seems so romantic....

ok, i'm old!
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Well I don't know what to tell you except it's good you at least tried. It feels better than doing nothing. As you know if you've read any of my posts you know I also have trouble putting myself out there with women. But with a little pushing and a little luck I have manged to start making some small steps recently, so I am right there with you. One thing I keep telling myself is that peoples actions are not a reflection on me. Whatever they do, is more a reflection of their own thoughts, attitudes, and beliefs than it is of me. So don't worry about it and good job and good luck in the future.
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Sounds like a success. Most men don't even have the gall to up to a girl and ask her out. They sit on the bench and keep dreaming and don't take life into their hands.

At the very least I admire that someone did what most men don't. As a fellow brother who asked out tons of girls and been rejected over and over, I give your action props. The success came from yourself, that you internally did what most men won't do.

Regardless of what happened in the outer world, defeating our biggest enemy (ourselves) takes serious courage. That in itself is much more valuable than any "girl".

We men could learn something from this experience about what it takes to be a man.
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Old 10-12-2010, 01:23 AM   #9 (permalink)
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well, you did your part,you were brave enough to go talk to her,if she dont want, then is her problem,if you insists it will look desperate,i'm sure you can find a lot of other interesting girls in your classes
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So, right after she gave her lamesauce answer, what was the next thing you did/said?

Well I asked if she wanted to go on a date with me sometime, she said she isn't dating right now. I asked her if there was a specific reason she wasn't dating and she just said "No, I'm just not dating."

Then there was about half a second of the most awkward pause that you can imagine after she said "sorry" or something like that, but I interrupted the awkwardness with "Well if you ever want to go out sometime, I just asked you out."

She smiled and laughed or something and said "Okay" and I walked away.

There were a few more words said in the interaction but that is the jist of it.


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What sort of advice are you looking for?
Actually I don't really want advice per se. I was just wondering if anyone has something on their minds at the current moment that would be helpful or meaningful to me in a situation like this. That is all.


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Congrats for Manning up! So did the feeling of "If I don't do this I'll regret it" come to mind at all?

I'm glad you faced your fear. My brother yesterday did that and I personally know the feeling.

I'm just somewhat confused.

How did you ask her out? I almost got the impression that you asked her out to be your GF. Yet I don't think thats right.. Not sure. Would you please clarify?

Also you state that you "Know her" from two of your classes have you talked to her anytime during the classes?

Did she know your name at least?

Thanks.

Oh yes. I have wanted to ask her out for awhile now and as she walked into the parking lot I had a thought "I'll just ask her on Wednesday" followed by me talking to myself "No Curtis I am going to ask her out right now dammit!!" or something like that.

There was definitely a feeling that I would regret it if I didn't ask her. As Tony Robbins said in one of his tv episodes, the best way to face a fear is to do it immediately because waiting will only prolong the pain. (paraphrased)


Oh and, I know her pretty well. I was in a group project with her last semester which is how we met. Also she is in 2 of my classes every Monday and Wednesday this semester. We usually talk a little bit when we see each other.


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You might want to adjust your perspective on "rejection."

She declined your invitation. That's all. You're disappointed when someone can't make it to your birthday party, right? That's all it is. She's gonna miss out on a great party, but you still get to have the party -- perhaps with a different guest.

See this is the kind of advice I was asking for!

I feel better just after reading this. Thanks Angela. This is a nice way of recontextualizing it.

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congratulations!

it seems so romantic....

ok, i'm old!
Lol... I guess it is about as romantic as getting turned down can be!


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Well I don't know what to tell you except it's good you at least tried. It feels better than doing nothing. As you know if you've read any of my posts you know I also have trouble putting myself out there with women. But with a little pushing and a little luck I have manged to start making some small steps recently, so I am right there with you. One thing I keep telling myself is that peoples actions are not a reflection on me. Whatever they do, is more a reflection of their own thoughts, attitudes, and beliefs than it is of me. So don't worry about it and good job and good luck in the future.
Thanks man and good luck to you too. It definitely took some courage but I feel better after doing it. So just know that even if you get rejected it isn't the end of the world.

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Yes. I do feel about 10% more of a man after this. Even after her saying no!

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well, you did your part,you were brave enough to go talk to her,if she dont want, then is her problem,if you insists it will look desperate,i'm sure you can find a lot of other interesting girls in your classes

I hope I will find other interesting girls...

I can think of one that was giving me some interesting looks the other day...

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What I think happened is that she has something going on in her life that's leading her to take herself off the market, so to speak. The giggly thing tells me that she would have been interested otherwise. You didn't ask her the right way to elaborate on why she's not dating, which is why she didn't tell you. She had no reason to trust you with that information. But that's not a reflection on your approach, had she reason to trust you, she wouldn't have said no. It's more to do with her, than you. You'd have to be a really exceptional person in her life to get over that.

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I wish I had anyone I wanted to ask out.
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Then there was about half a second of the most awkward pause that you can imagine after she said "sorry" or something like that, but I interrupted the awkwardness with "Well if you ever want to go out sometime, I just asked you out."

She smiled and laughed or something and said "Okay" and I walked away.

There were a few more words said in the interaction but that is the jist of it.



What a genius thing to say. I'm not one for memorizing lines or anything but I think I may have to have that one on stand by.
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You did good! Well done for picking up the courage to ask her out!

As to what she was thinking? Hard to say, but in future I wouldn't ask a girl in front of one of her friends. I think that's a potentially awkward situation to put a girl in.

For instance, if I was in that position, and a cute guy came up to me and asked me out in front of a friend, I might say something stupid too lol... it isn't necessarily that she doesn't like you, or wouldn't go out with you, just that she may have felt uncomfortable agreeing to go out with you in front of a friend?

Just a thought!

Sometimes, when put on the spot, girls can get nervous and say silly things too! She may even now be regretting it??
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Well I asked if she wanted to go on a date with me sometime, she said she isn't dating right now. I asked her if there was a specific reason she wasn't dating and she just said "No, I'm just not dating."

Then there was about half a second of the most awkward pause that you can imagine after she said "sorry" or something like that, but I interrupted the awkwardness with "Well if you ever want to go out sometime, I just asked you out."

She smiled and laughed or something and said "Okay" and I walked away.

There were a few more words said in the interaction but that is the jist of it.

Awesome! Who knows why she 'isn't dating' right now? But if you left it cool with her, who knows what will happen when she changes her mind? She'll remember you, and you might run into her again.

One thing that helped me back then was the idea that women know each other, so you ask out one and it doesn't work out, but she may lead you to a friend that is available. So always good to know and be friendly with lots of women that you don't end up dating. Besides which, they are usually pretty great friends.

Now the next one you ask out will be much easier.
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Congrats on the courage!

Feels good doesn't it? To be afraid and do it anyway?
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That is a sexist term-- manned up. It means that if you did not do it then you would have womanned down since men are brave and woman are cowards. She did not reject you. She just is not dating right now. She is busy doing other things.

You succeeded. Your goal was to make her happy. If she wanted to go out with you and you did not ask her then you would be making her unhappy. She now knows that someone likes her. Maybe everything that happens in your life is the very best thing for you at that moment.

That woman who was a brain scientist had a massive stroke and she says that it was the best thing that ever happened to her! Above she talks about it. After it she was chosen as one of the 100 most influential people. She wrote a book, Stroke of Insight.
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Does anybody have advice? Suggestions? Comfort for my broken heart which isn't that broken but is definitely disappointed?
You can think of it as rejection if you want, but are you going to find it useful to feel that way? If not, just think of it as an offer that wasn't accepted, sort of like offering a piece of gum. It wouldn't be about you then, either.

You were interested in her and asked her out. That's terrific. That means that whatever else happens, she'll now see you as someone who is interested in her. So long as you treat her the same as always, without awkwardness, if she changes her mind about dating, she might ask you out.
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She is not into you.

Girls never just say "no I am not interested", they just make up an excuse like she did.

If you were Brad Pitt would she say no?

Rejection is good because learning how to handle rejection makes you more confident as it bothers you less and less over time.

I once had a girl who I went on two dates post on my Facebook wall she will call me when things "slow down". That was her way of telling me she was not interested in me anymore. Made me laugh

Hey it happens to everyone, just laugh the absurdity off and don't take it to heart!
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That is a sexist term-- manned up. It means that if you did not do it then you would have womanned down since men are brave and woman are cowards.
Eh, I'm not following the logical implication here. I don't feel that a term attributed to our perception of manliness is automatically a slight against the qualities of a woman. At least in my parlance, the opposite of 'manned up' would be something like 'chickened out', which might imply cowardice, but has nothing to do with women.

Curtis can speak for himself, but I didn't think he meant to be sexist with that term.
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That is a sexist term-- manned up. It means that if you did not do it then you would have womanned down since men are brave and woman are cowards. She did not reject you. She just is not dating right now. She is busy doing other things.

You succeeded. Your goal was to make her happy. If she wanted to go out with you and you did not ask her then you would be making her unhappy. She now knows that someone likes her. Maybe everything that happens in your life is the very best thing for you at that moment.

That woman who was a brain scientist had a massive stroke and she says that it was the best thing that ever happened to her! Above she talks about it. After it she was chosen as one of the 100 most influential people. She wrote a book, Stroke of Insight.
Lol... "manned up" is just a saying. do you also throw your arms up when we talk about "man-holes" or "man-darins", or even worse "his-story"!!! Also if someone is into you (in general) they will make the time for you. If she has a significant social life, then she has time to spare and really isn't into ya.

Also congrats. I have asked out a few girls over the years (not my normal way of doing things) and it takes balls. good stuff!!
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I once had a girl who I went on two dates post on my Facebook wall she will call me when things "slow down". That was her way of telling me she was not interested in me anymore. Made me laugh

Lol I HATE facebook! It is the worst rejection method ever!


I have been "facebook-rejected" by two different girls that I asked out. One was an almost-friend chick that I had flirted with a tiny bit. I asked her if she wanted to hang out sometime with a pretty obvious implication that I meant a date, and she said "SURE! Just Facebook me okay?!" Well, I Facebook'd her to no avail.

Then there was another chick who I asked out once. It was my first time ever meeting her but I thought she was into me. I asked her out to get lunch sometime and instead of saying no, she gave me her first and last name and told me to "facebook her". Again, I sent a message thinking "Okay maybe she is serious" but she never responded.

The funniest thing is, I saw the 2nd girl I asked out about a week later on the bus that drives around campus. She got on and saw me sitting at the front, ducked her eyes away from me and walked all the way to the back of the bus and avoided eye contact. LOL! I think it was because she kind of b!tched out and didn't have the balls (figuratively speaking of course) to reject me straight up.
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Lol I HATE facebook! It is the worst rejection method ever!


I have been "facebook-rejected" by two different girls that I asked out. One was an almost-friend chick that I had flirted with a tiny bit. I asked her if she wanted to hang out sometime with a pretty obvious implication that I meant a date, and she said "SURE! Just Facebook me okay?!" Well, I Facebook'd her to no avail.

Then there was another chick who I asked out once. It was my first time ever meeting her but I thought she was into me. I asked her out to get lunch sometime and instead of saying no, she gave me her first and last name and told me to "facebook her". Again, I sent a message thinking "Okay maybe she is serious" but she never responded.

The funniest thing is, I saw the 2nd girl I asked out about a week later on the bus that drives around campus. She got on and saw me sitting at the front, ducked her eyes away from me and walked all the way to the back of the bus and avoided eye contact. LOL! I think it was because she kind of b!tched out and didn't have the balls (figuratively speaking of course) to reject me straight up.
Was this the girl that you stared at creepily until she went running from you in mortifying horror?
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Was this the girl that you stared at creepily until she went running from you in mortifying horror?

Lol! No, different girl. I never even knew the name of the recipient of my creep-stare. I just know it was hilarious.


Oh but, apparently the girl I stared at was friends with one of my other female friends. My female friend was talking to me and she was like "Curtis were you staring at my friend on the bus?!" LOL! This made for an awkward moment or two.
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Lol! No, different girl. I never even knew the name of the recipient of my creep-stare. I just know it was hilarious.


Oh but, apparently the girl I stared at was friends with one of my other female friends. My female friend was talking to me and she was like "Curtis were you staring at my friend on the bus?!" LOL! This made for an awkward moment or two.
Lmao!
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I wish I had anyone I wanted to ask out.
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Lol! No, different girl. I never even knew the name of the recipient of my creep-stare. I just know it was hilarious.


Oh but, apparently the girl I stared at was friends with one of my other female friends. My female friend was talking to me and she was like "Curtis were you staring at my friend on the bus?!" LOL! This made for an awkward moment or two.
I think we now know why the other girl "wasn't dating" as well....
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Even if it was a rather amusing and fun-to-read-from-my-perspective sort of rejection, you're right about the important thing here. Refusing to gather up the courage to ask her out would have resulted in all sorts of weird regrets and what-if-thoughts that would be invading your mind.

Chuckle at yourself and move on to the next chick.
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Oooh, yeah. That women know other women thing can work the other way as well! Guess you gotta move to a new town now
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What was your impression when you spoke to her before: was she a bit interested in you or even flirting? Maybe it was just in a bad moment (asking her in front of her friend). You can flirt on with her in class, and see what happens.
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