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Like for example take someone like Steve Pavlina. In this forum he's probably the most "famous" member. Is there a certain strategy that guides what posts he responds to? Or if you watch someone signing books at a book signing you notice that there are various barriers that are put up to insulate them from the people. Another consideration is are peoples actions when they are sort of famous the reason they become famous? Like if Micheal Jackson were really accessible would he have become as famous as he did? |
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I think there is. I'm not sure how it would go for Steve Pavlina, as he is only really famous in PD circles. For someone like Michael Jackson though...no wonder he was so eccentric...people would have EATEN him if they could have. |
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I honestly believe that when you put a camera to someone's face (or even a metophorical spot light in that case), they change in one way or another. I know I tend to get crazier. But typically, the "thought process" shuts off and people simply act before thinking. |
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Yeah, of course most people who are in the public eye have a certain facade they show the public. They have to keep up appearances. Not a bad thing, kind of forces them to live their ideals in a way I guess. It's funny you post this now actually. I'm not close to being famous or anything like that Today there was a girl who I'd rather have seen when I was up for it, she came around unannounced and I had to quickly switch gears and entertain her and there was a few others here too. But would have been better on a Friday night... got a bit annoyed in the end, not the best impression. They choose when they come around when they're up for it and expecting entertainment, and I don't get to choose. My problem though, will sort it out eventually. So yeah, if the press were around MJ 24/7, then maybe he wouldn't have been as famous. He got to control when the media sees him so he had control over the image he portrays to the world. |
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People expect their ideal from you. One adjusts to constant feedback of these expectations. One has the choice which expectations they will rise to and which ones are unrealistic. ---- I think it's important to know who you are and where you are going through it all, at all times! ---- I think the biggest adjustment for me thus far is allowing the constant praise to be absorbed and not just dismiss it because I've heard it a thousand times before. Also responding to that expectation energy when speaking with a supporter or fan. --- People who knew you before and are still close to you are likely to treat you the same. --- People who knew you before but grew distant with either buy into the hype of Fame or resent you for it. ---- I'm still learning, looking forward to the whole process. As I wish to live through word of mouth, forever. |
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Fame (even on a small scale), can change you. You end up losing much of your identity, because so many people metaphorically "take" a piece of you. People have expectations on you, the pressure mounts and, ultimately, it can change you. Sometimes for the better, but often for the worse (have a look at some of the Hollywood stars).
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I think being famous is big challenge in life, especially to fight ego. Being famous means having thousands of peope telling you you're the best, so i think it's really difficult not to believe it and i think if i had to be famous one day, i'll had a personnal development coach to keep me in track and not let my ego take control. Because when ego is here, great days are awesome and your ego is so big that it makes you feel so empowered, but if one day, you become less famous and have less and less fans etc... this is the return of the ego, you suffer a lot because you think you are nothing if you're not famous anymore because of the identification of your ego with your celebrity... Hard time for famous people i think! |
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This is actually an interesting topic. I've wondered if Steve for example would post a personal issue he's struggling with to get input from others here --and I don't mean "what to do with copyright issues" and that sort of thing. Or does Steve feel the pressure to sort of act as if he's above needing personal advice from the group, ya know. I remember once talking to our church minister, and her telling me that she certainly feels the pressure to act as if all is perfect in her personal life and finds it a bit hard to "let go" and share her personal struggles cuz everyone goes to her with their issues. So she has a support group with other ministers. Maybe this is the equivalent of TLC for Steve. |
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Yes, it's really possible. The hard thing is to not put a label on who we are. I'm just launching a blog about personal development too, and i have been thinking about this issue. Should i talk about my struggles or should i keep my status of "teacher"? And i found that for me, what makes me enjoy blogging about PD is to share my experiences, good or bad, and then be able to share what i've learnt. So it means put off this label :"i help people" on me, and just i share my experience, and if someone reading my blog think that it's because i share my own experience and struggling that i am not "perfect" enough to talk about personal development, then i think he would miss the core of the personal development. Personal development is an eternal growth, and we can see it here, in the article of Steve where he explains his evolution in his way of thinking, acting.... Virginie |
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