How do people with high IQ think?

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by Shamou

Here is the story of William James Sidis... the most intelligent person that ever lived... (IQ between 250 and 300) ...a total misfit who never accomplished anything and died at age 45 poor and alone...

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FTA -

Sperling commented: "What the journalists did not report, and perhaps did not know, was that during all the years of his obscure employments he was writing original treatises on history, government, economics and political affairs.

//Doesn't sound like a waste to me.

[Dan.Linehan]

I test between 150-160.

I agree with Shamou: Determination, goalsetting and persistance are far more important in the long run than IQ.

Socially, I don't let many people into my "circle" but I'm super tight with the good friends that I have. They are more like brothers and sisters than friends.

I am spending a lot of time lately working on my daily focus and forming habitual, positive routines. I'm pretty A.D.D. and have problems finishing projects after I start them.

I'm great at proof of concept though..

[Chinese Dragon]

My IQ is 137. But the only time I need to think really hard is when I am computer programming.

Programming has a lot to do with getting a computer to solve problems (most of which a human could do easily), so here's how I usually think through those problems:

1. Define the goals of the solution
2. Identify contraints of the system
3. Solve the problem in the way a human would solve it
4. Break the human solution down into smaller mini-solutions easy enough to program
5. Implement the algorithm

Nothing special really. I expect that people with higher IQs than me think in quite the same way, just come up with the solution faster.

[Ak47]

I avg. 130- the vocabulary comparision is always what kills my score; i'll admit it, i'm not fact or knowledge smart really. I practically failed high school- 14 F's and 16 D's total with the years divided into quarters.

Regardless, my iq is still quite reasonable imo- i just have motivational issues.

I'm a deep thinker. No, i'm not a quick thinker, just a deep thinker. I try very hard to have as wide a perspective as possible. I often come off as a reletively negative type of person to most people. The reason for this is not that i'm so negative myself, but i dwell on negative things and how to fix them. Whereas, with optimistic type thoughts, i don't have to try and solve any issues with them. Another reason: a lot of the world, and people are negative themselves- so i'm surrounded by it- and in order to get the most reasonable realistic perspective, i have to try to view things at the 'typical' level whether it's what will make me more happy or not. I care more about having wisdom, than being happy. Sad but true.

Here's an interesting test as well: the "keiser personality test"

See IQ isn't really how you think, it's really just your ability to learn, and how well you solve logical type problems compared to other people. If you want to know how people think, take a look at the Keiser, and other personality tests. The Keiser is pretty basic, but quite interesting. I tested as a 'realist' when i took it, which it told me 'realists' make up about 7% of the population. Personality tests (not those related to disorders) are going to be where you're going to get answers about the questions your seeking in regards to thinking methods- as many people with a high IQ think very differently since IQ is just a measure of thinking ability, not thinking method.

[Jannybeth]

Nantucket Sunset, I am also an ENTP woman and so believe me , I know what you are saying about men. I also have the same issues , they see what i look like and think they will find a sweet little sex-kitten/princess , and then when they find out I have a mind like a razor, they head for the hills. They cannot cope with a bright and challenging women, they are looking for little wifeys. It has happened time and time again and it's BAD!

[ripcurly]

well, i dont know exactly what my iq is, but they tell me im a genius.

it is both a blessing and a curse. everything is so easy that i dont try. physics, chemistry, and math are somehow preprogrammed into my head and as soon as i read it or am taught it, i just know it. i am usually the guy answering all the hard questions the fastest, and asking the "good" questions.

still, i dont really study, and its not good cuz in college i have found that i need to study some, and i have absolutely no study habits. i am here typing this when i should be studying biology, all because i just like to think and philosophize and interact with others on my level, or around my level, of intelligence.

i have always kind of disregarded authority when i felt that it was illogical. that is the only kind of trouble i really ever get in. i can be very disrespectful, rude, and sarcastic to teachers or people who insult my intelligence by telling me to believe, accept, shut up, and respect them for no reason. i am getting better at handling myself in these types of situations, but definitely am not all the way there yet.

i am pretty lonely. i dont understand most people. it is amazing to me when i meet people with actual intelligence and logical thinking. maybe i am the crazy one, but i really dont think so. actually, i know im not. to me i see the whole world as just completely f ing backwards, and it really disturbs me. i am mostly extremely happy, but i can get really dark and moody when everyting just overwhelms me, as it is doing right now.

i need a girl, and it is ridiculous how hard this is when i dont compromise my values. i used to be able to just say a bunch of bs and get any girl to do whatever with me, but now that i am just myself it is so incredibly lonely. maybe i dont need one, but it is overwhelmingly lonely. i feel like i am holding so much on my shoulders. i feel that just my intelligence and soul in general is just so hard for people to deal with, and as i live in a small town, it really gets me down.

now were i in a good mood i would probably write a completely different response, as when i am around like minded people i am the happiest guy in the world. but right now i am just not the happiest dude and i dont know what to do. it always passes, but i just dont know man. its not like i wana be an idiot liek everybody else, but i feel like i need some 40 year old woman if i am gonna have a relationship, which probably wont happen either.

girls can be quite depressing.

this is so off topic im sorry.

peace

[NotesMaeve]

Originally Posted by Jannybeth

Nantucket Sunset, I am also an ENTP woman and so believe me , I know what you are saying about men. I also have the same issues , they see what i look like and think they will find a sweet little sex-kitten/princess , and then when they find out I have a mind like a razor, they head for the hills. They cannot cope with a bright and challenging women, they are looking for little wifeys. It has happened time and time again and it's BAD!

Janny, I feel you. I sound like a sorority girl and kind of look like one. I'm also pretty damn smart.

There are men who will appreciate your intellect. It took me 22 years, 7 of those consciously looking for a man who would appreciate my mind. I could tell you of our talks about Saussure, but not in mixed company.

[lightthecandle]

"""now were i in a good mood i would probably write a completely different response, as when i am around like minded people i am the happiest guy in the world. but right now i am just not the happiest dude and i dont know what to do. it always passes, but i just dont know man. its not like i wana be an idiot liek everybody else, but i feel like i need some 40 year old woman if i am gonna have a relationship, which probably wont happen either.

girls can be quite depressing.

this is so off topic im sorry.

peace[/QUOTE]



Hey!!!!!don't worry its' not so off topic at all

don't fret, really. you have a gift of a quick mind...if you don't use it wisely, then it is your fault...but not to worry , especially in College ... you HAVE to have good study habits. Maybe you can do some googling and find out "how to work on getting good work habits.".or whatever you want to call them.

maybe this would work wonders for you: Study your Bio and other classes...and then help some kids in your class learn the material who are completely lost...they'll appreciate it immensely, and you'll learn some good social skills (you might feel awkward at first, but hey, that's ONLY in the beginning) ...and hey, it's a wonderful feeling to help others, and to see that huge smile in their face, (including you!)

and the girl situation... some girls are jerks..who only go out with jerks. forget about them. there's still alot of us human, and good girls out there..i promise and don't be someone you're not...but you may find you have some character flaws...but who doesn't...just work on that and you'll be golden.

sorry if some it makes no sense or my spelling/grammer sucks, I've got to go get my 8 hours of ZZZs.

till then , BE GOOD TO YOURSELF, you deserve to be happy. also...you can either smile or frown...you control this and NOONE else my friend.

[wayne]

Smart people usually have a highly positive mind set or in other words a yes attitude toward life. There is no "problem" for a smart person, everything is positive. Things are always changing and new logistics must be figured out constantly. there is no such thing as a "problem" only solutions waiting to be found.

[JimOfferman]

Maybe it's the other way around even... people with a positive attitude end up being smarter, because they actually solve and learn from their problems, instead of wallowing in despair.

[Billy]

i just thought I'd put in my two cents worth, is it true to say that the the highest IQ's also have the highest ego? my IQ is tested in the top two percent but I won't mention the test or where it was performed basically because leaving any opening is just asking for others to dissesemble. If having a high IQ means talking about my own perfection then I'd rather be plagued with limitations.

[ripcurly]

i am proud of my intelligence and the use i put it to. i find it insulting to the creating thought that i believe made me, as well as myself, to downgrade my intelligence in order to ease the discomfort of others.

[tefaroko]

I have been tested numerous times and my average is somewhere around or slightly above 175.

Far from ever, EVER bragging about this fact, I lament it. I can't speak for everyone with an above-average IQ, but personally my thinking is not anything I would wish on anyone else. I analyze, reanalyze, and reanalyze the results of the first and second analysis.

Dark thoughts can, and do at times, pervade my mind. Nothing violent mind you, just frightening ideas of my own limitations. Which, intellectually, I realize is ridiculous to be saying having just told you I have a genius-level IQ.

Bottom line: It's not all its cracked up to be. Everyone else looks at you as if you can do anything, but you know all-too-well all of your limitations.

[ripcurly]

Originally Posted by Jannybeth

Nantucket Sunset, I am also an ENTP woman and so believe me , I know what you are saying about men. I also have the same issues , they see what i look like and think they will find a sweet little sex-kitten/princess , and then when they find out I have a mind like a razor, they head for the hills. They cannot cope with a bright and challenging women, they are looking for little wifeys. It has happened time and time again and it's BAD!

i feel this way about many people i meet in general. i wont settle for anything less than the qualities you describe in yourself. even though the pickins are slim, people like us just gotta stay picky and wait for the complementary razor sharp mind

[ripcurly]

Originally Posted by tefaroko

I have been tested numerous times and my average is somewhere around or slightly above 175.

Far from ever, EVER bragging about this fact, I lament it. I can't speak for everyone with an above-average IQ, but personally my thinking is not anything I would wish on anyone else. I analyze, reanalyze, and reanalyze the results of the first and second analysis.

Dark thoughts can, and do at times, pervade my mind. Nothing violent mind you, just frightening ideas of my own limitations. Which, intellectually, I realize is ridiculous to be saying having just told you I have a genius-level IQ.

Bottom line: It's not all its cracked up to be. Everyone else looks at you as if you can do anything, but you know all-too-well all of your limitations.

i was just saying this yesterday. i analyze everything, and even the most wonderful event i could analyze and have dark thoughts creep in until in my mind i completely screwed everything up (in this case it is a girl that i know shares the feeling that our time spent together was awesome, but just a couplle weeks of not talking to her and her not returning a call just makes me wonder and worry etc).

also, being incredibly intelligent (this is not boasting, it is just an honest statement, and anyways its not anything to be proud of really as i was born with this and did not work for it), i find that i dont study hard or work very hard and i get a's and b's without trying. i know people that arent as smart as me who get perfect gpa's and try their absolute hardest. that is so much more an important lesson than not trying and being basically given a good grade.

its a blessing and a curse really. i guess i just need to turn that curse part into motivation to use my blessing to the absolute best of my ability. and i am doing this, it jsut takes some time for me to get used to it.

[tefaroko]

Originally Posted by ripcurly

i was just saying this yesterday. i analyze everything, and even the most wonderful event i could analyze and have dark thoughts creep in until in my mind i completely screwed everything up (in this case it is a girl that i know shares the feeling that our time spent together was awesome, but just a couplle weeks of not talking to her and her not returning a call just makes me wonder and worry etc).

also, being incredibly intelligent (this is not boasting, it is just an honest statement, and anyways its not anything to be proud of really as i was born with this and did not work for it), i find that i dont study hard or work very hard and i get a's and b's without trying. i know people that arent as smart as me who get perfect gpa's and try their absolute hardest. that is so much more an important lesson than not trying and being basically given a good grade.

its a blessing and a curse really. i guess i just need to turn that curse part into motivation to use my blessing to the absolute best of my ability. and i am doing this, it jsut takes some time for me to get used to it.

Sadly, I've been there too man. The only cure for that over-thinking is to occupy your mind in something else. I know its ridiculous, and I know its much easier said than done, but thats what it takes. I give you props, I've stressed myself out over not talking to someone I had an interest in for a a day or two. Luckily, I realize how insane my thoughts are at times, and I keep them to myself, otherwise I'm not sure I'd have to worry about wondering what women thought.

Also sadly, I've been there with regards to the not-trying. I've improved a bit in the last few years, and actually have just returned to school, so I can say it does (or can) get better. The real problem is I still have no desire to spend any time on any subject that doesn't interest me. So what I had to do was slowly broaden my horizons, appending to the bottom of the "Interested subjects" list whilst simultaneously decreasing the subjects I wasn't interested in.

Your best bet, or maybe I should say what worked for me, was asking someone who was truly interested in a subject to "convert" me. Most people relished the opportunity to talk about their interests, and I enjoyed the interaction. Give it a shot!

P.S. I usually equate being born with intelligence and being arrogant about it to being arrogant about having won the lottery. Metaphorically, it's pretty accurate. We have no control over our IQ, we didn't work for it, we didn't earn it. I try to use it to the best of my ability, but realizing its not a trophy on my mantle helps keep me grounded.

[Jugga J]

All talk. Really, this is the problem with these forums, most people are too dam big headed.

This thread has just turned into people boasting.

I don't think Genius is a title that is given too you just because you've answered some multiple choice questions correctly. Geniuses have to show immense creativity and often show traits like obsessive compulsive, Schizotypal personality disorder. etc. etc. IMO, none of you show any of these, sorry too disappoint.

It also depends on what scale we are uisng. Are we using the American distribution that is measured out of 200 or the standard 140 one. ?

[jaamkie]

Originally Posted by Jugga J

All talk. Really, this is the problem with these forums, most people are too dam big headed.

This thread has just turned into people boasting.

I don't think Genius is a title that is given too you just because you've answered some multiple choice questions correctly. Geniuses have to show immense creativity and often show traits like obsessive compulsive, Schizotypal personality disorder. etc. etc. IMO, none of you show any of these, sorry too disappoint.

It also depends on what scale we are uisng. Are we using the American distribution that is measured out of 200 or the standard 140 one. ?

Well the original topic was "high IQ" not "genius". I think many people here have agreed they are two different things. Also yes I definitely agree that all IQ tests are not created equal, but that is again a different topic. If you're just surprised that many people have replied claiming high IQ, I would point out that people tend to congregate in peer groups, and Steve's blog is "for Smart People" after all (hmph!). Also, I think people are naturally more interested in topics of personal significance, and therefore more likely to read and reply if they have been tested to have a high IQ.

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Back to the original question though, I often wonder the same thing and waffle between naturally assuming that everyone thinks like me and being confronted with the fact that I do think differently both in terms of quantitative measurements (such as IQ) and qualitatively (I've always tutored classmates/friends and often have to understand HOW a person is thinking/learning/problem solving). I also don't know how much my odd ways of thinking are related to "high IQ" versus just being an individual thing.

I have a strong sense of an invisible structure where ideas fit, and when I'm learning new things I can sort of feel myself unconsciously fitting everything I'm learning into the existing structure (or expanding the structure or adjusting it if part of the new idea is that existing info is less true). Then when I'm solving problems, I revisit the structure and feel around in it for ideas, and sometimes when I'm stuck intentionally break apart pieces of the structure and move around how ideas fit together (or often take a nap- somehow sleep clarifies/solidifies/fixes things). Because of this, I'm very attuned to inconsistencies (which is useful in my IT consulting job LOL!) and good at figuring out what questions to ask to reconcile them. It also means that I always have lots of associations in mind and can come at ideas from different directions when trying to understand someone else's thoughts. Finally it tends to mean that I can see where my structure is empty/foggy and as I learn a little bit about a topic I'm always visualizing what I don't know.

In school I was funny because I have a very hard time memorizing unrelated facts- to the point where I still have to pause to think when asked "what is 7*3?" (pretty much if I care enough to memorize something I have to put it to music or patterns of movement or colors or smells or something... also I am very quick to forget individual facts if they are no longer relevant to me), but I have a very good memory when asked to fit things together and solve problems (and I'm good at looking things up- I often have a visualization of where the information came from/exists and an outline of how it fits into other things rather than memory of the information itself). Often for tests in school I would come at every question from first principles and extrapolation and logic rather than from remembering a specific algorithm or memorization of individual facts (yet somehow I was usually the first one finished... I truly couldn't imagine what others were thinking about when they took five times as long as me on a test).

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As far as relating to others, people tend to find me unusual but palatable enough both in my thought processes and their external manifestations in how I choose to live my life. A lot of the time I feel like my relationships are somewhat shallow and don't/can't go to certain places, and I like a certain amount of alone time when my thoughts can race around without trying to express them to anyone. It has been a tough road at times to accept myself as "weird" and not try to judge others or myself as better/worse, but I think that's true for most people in one way or another.

I sympathize with the women on here commenting that its hard to find men to date. Even though I'm introverted and "weird" I do tend to find guys happy to date me (I think men don't give a damn about how smart a woman is, they just want agreeable interesting conversation and enough intelligence and common sense to be independent). My problem has been that as I get to know men I tend to find the connection just stops at a certain point where the men don't follow my thoughts/ideas and so I stop expressing them and start feeling unhappy and restless and limited and eventually have the unhappy task of doing an honest "its not you its me" breakup (yes I know I need to "get a life" and not depend on a romantic relationship for all intellectual stimulation- I'm working on it!). Also with the vast majority of men I could win a rational argument every time and control the relationship and be annoyingly "always right", which isn't at all what I want- I like constructive challenges and criticism and inspiration to keep growing.

[Old Soul]

How about those with high EI? I've wondered how other's think with high EI

I know for me I am extremely visual, I also have a mind with a wide range of divergence...... and sometimes this exasberates my disorder

This is interesting .... I did an iq test while manic and scored 140 took it again a year later when in a depressive slide and I only scored 120 How bizzare is that??

the mind is a peculiar thing indeed

[legend]

I don't care about a number
I don't care about analyses or stored knowledge
These things give you zero advantage in the real world
I am amused by everyone who quickly responded with how well they scored on some exam that has no relavance in life... even the ones who said how smart they were than quickly added how embarresed they were by it (BS)
I find it concerning how many of these super iq people are also deppressed...

Now if you asked how do successful people think I have some ideas....
Successful people synthesis information in ways that they can solve problems they have never encountered before.
They quickly form a solution-decision based on the information they have and begin to act on it... As the gain new insight and knowledge they change their position as they synthesis these new thoughts with their working solution...
They are very vocal about what they think but listen even more.... and have an uncanny ability to hear insight in what is being said around them regardless of source (zero ego)
They trust in their ability and begin.... knowing the answer will reveal itself when the time is right (begin a task like never having written a love poem but trusting that it will come out perfect)

They build up the people around them knowing that that is true success...
They are more interested in being right than getting recognition...
They operate out of a position of unconditional love (deppression seeps in when you are more focused on yourself instead of others)

They give without wanting..... all that they have

They don't sit around and pat each other on the back because of how well they scored on anything....
They don't compare themselves to others to pacify their own ego's

Find the love....
answers found....
change the world

[ripcurly]

ya well the thread topic was "how do people with high IQ think? not "how do successful people think. maybe you should start a thread.

[Gamediva2112]

Originally Posted by songwriter

The greater IQ, the most time you spend thinking... and the less you think you know. And the more complex it gets.
But to be "smart" sometimes you've got to stop thinking... somehow you've got to balance thinking and not thinking.

And I think I've thought enough about it.

LOL This is great!

As a child I had to teach myself to focus in order to get along in school. I had to teach myself to meditate in order to sleep. I had to teach myself to stop thinking so much. My father used to claim his mind was like a steel trap. Well mine was more like a huge fishing net. I not only got the idea I needed, but hundreds of others as well. To this day one of my greatest gifts, I believe, is the ability to consider a large number of possibilities at once. It makes it hard to order at a restaurant though. LOL

IQ 147

[Jennihul]

I tested as genius in an IQ test when I was 13. My mom and day thought I was retarded for some reason so they took me for tests. Higher than Mensa dad so that was some vindication for the "retarded" thing. But I don't think IQ has much of a bearing on life or how it's lived.

As far as the original question: How do I think? I think that answer to that question in any given person will be purely different on an individual basis, but also different based on their emotional intelligence quotient. People see and think through filters of experience. Filters of judgement. Filters of fear and security. Filters of expectation.

But the raw process for me is like a feeling of an instant whoosh of neural net sensing that evaluates a given circumstance or situation in very broad or 'big picture' terms. I see cause and subsequent effect instantly. Multiple outcomes. Actions and consequences in one bloom of feedback. There is an intuition factor that borders on psychic. It's so sensorially rich an experience, that I am the type of person that can see a good travel documentary and never feel the need to go to that particular country ever again. I smell it, taste the food and feel the heat or cold and the very essense of a place just through my visual senses. Basically, I feel like I have been there already. I know instantly if a solution will be successful or not, at work, for instance. But relating the consequences gets one labled as "not a team player" even if you are correct in the end. So I squelch that to some degree.

But it doesn't help that I have poor retention. Mathematics is a subject I love, but unless I am performing calculations constantly, I just lose the ability to perform them in a short span of time. I have forgotten half my multiplication tables at times in my life. Even though I am great with cause/ effect and big picture, I can't play chess. I can't remember books I have read unless they were really impactful or popular and much discussed. I have to view pictures to remember a lot of my youth.

I am excellent at getting to a place I have only been once. A visual memory thing. I can even get to places I have never been via some kind of natural GPS in my head. But I can't remember funny jokes. Or lines from movies.

I think my photographic memory takes up too much space so other abilities take a backseat or fall off altogether.

My Myers-Brigs tested to be an INTJ when I was young. Again in my 30's and again in my 40's. I have intentionally modified the social lackings that INTJs naturally have because it was evident that it was in my best interest to do so.

Jennifer

[slinky]

My IQ is in the 130-140 range. When I was in kindergarten, I was considered a slow learner. I started reading long novels, including classic literature, at age 6. I was a mediocre C-student until 3rd grade, when I started getting straight A's. My classmates considered me a genius, but my mind can be quite slow. I was valedictorian of my high school class, took tons of Advanced Placement classes and exams, and got the top score on all of them. I did about equally well in all my classes, but my strongest subject, in which I did not get any extra help from my dad, was languages.

When I took standardized tests in elementary school, I scored extremely well in math and verbal skills and extremely poorly in spatial skills (bottom 20%). Recently, I took the High IQ Society's online test and scored a 130 overall. My subscores were almost all higher than 130, except for my scores in spatial visualization (129) and factual knowledge. My factual knowledge score was a dismal 75 because I don't know any details of international geography or history, or the history of the Olympics. That really brought me down; otherwise, my overall score probably would have been closer to 140.

Overall, I'm not a very systematic thinker. I let my mind wander over a problem, and sometimes it comes to a solution. When I learn a foreign language, I get into the flow and just do it. My recent hobbies have involved learning physical movements, which has probably improved my visualization skill.

[oakspringer]

I consider myself lucky to be unencumbered by a high IQ (I've only scored between 120-160). Unfortunately on my literary irony test, I barely eked by with a passing grade.

But I strongly feel like the traditional wisdom says, an IQ test is only a measure of how well you take an IQ test.

If life were a reflection of how well you score on an IQ test, then yes having a high IQ would be something to develop.

I feel that yes, in certain cases, if you have a high spatial score on your IQ test, you can learn how to bag groceries at the super market with extra efficiency, so I suppose there can be real world examples of how IQ can be useful.

But other than that the evidence that suggests that having an IQ = wealth or achievement or even genius is marginal at best.

IQ is more something that people like to boast about to make themselves feel better. Kind of like guys with big members when that's the only thing they have going for them

[Ninja]

My IQ is about 135-140. I've take multiple tests and results vary

I've noticed that I seem to pick up things faster. I only have to read a textbook one time and I've learned the material. I also often felt alone when I was young: I wanted to talk about books to my friends, who could barely read and whined that my book didn't have enough pictures. That is, if they even knew what I was talking about, since my vocabulairy was much bigger than theirs. I always hung out with the older kids, until everyone else 'caught up'

[Spiritual]

Tss Mr. Arrogant!

[Ninja]

Originally Posted by Spiritual

Tss Mr. Arrogant!

MISS arrogant to you

[openeyes]

Originally Posted by Ninja

I always hung out with the older kids, until everyone else 'caught up'

Same here. Aside from who I know at college, most of the people that gravitate to me are 20 to 50 years my senior. As a kid I always talked with the adults at parties, and routinely dated people several years older than me. Not just for IQ but maturity and experience.

One of my favorites right now is a group of about a half dozen retired male academics and artists in their 70s that have stayed in touch with each other since college. Most mornings I can find them at the local organic co-op grocery store/restaurant, and it's fun to sit and have coffee with them for a couple hours and talk, without a boring moment coming up.

In college I have managed to find a good number of people my age that are rather fun to hang out with too of course, particularly those which are very athletic, highly intelligent, affectionate, and wonderfully irreverent/playful. We talk, have group massages, and do extreme sports (or simply climb trees) together.

[Strangemagik]

I haven't taken any "real"(professional like Mensa) testing but I usually score between the high 130's to 150.

The only thing I can think of in regards to thinking is well it never stops. Yes I'd say I'm natural problem solver. I would say that I'm highly visual at times and really have a photographic memory. I just see things in the quickest route being worked out. It helps to be open minded to other ways of doing things. Sometimes there is much easier ways of doing things that people don't think of, or if they do they lack faith they can DO it. In my opinion there is no such thing as ONE way, or one right way, there are many ways to do things and all can be right.