Guys Go For Looks, Girls Go For Status?

[brendannz]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

Yeah, I read an interview with Chamberlain where he said he regretted it in the end, and that he doesn't want other young men to emulate him.

actually I just wikipedia'd it, it was 20,000 he slept with, dunno how he managed to keep count, lol.

yeah Wilt seemed like a nice guy, but seemed he was too egotistical to have any real relationships, and too addicted to sex. I guess.

[brendannz]

[QUOTE=rei;441963]

actually brendan, when i was researching the people pleaser, it turns out a people pleaser who has no interest in changing is best matched with a control freak. makes sense if you think about it

Yeah, just like how the sadist is perfectly matched with a masochist..

so maybe "shy" means "quiet"? or the type of girl who looks down and giggles when you give her a compliment? i ask because it is fascinating to eavesdrop on guy talk.

I dunno, exactly, but giggling girls are cool..

I think everybody likes confidence, but nobody likes loud aggressive controlling people, or annoying people who kiss ass and don't like themselves.

Guys and girls like the same characteristics I guess, but different energies.. (my new theory)

[cylon]

Giggling girls who play with their hair excessively as you talk to them, trying to act like they aren't nervous.

"cylon I play with my hair excessively and it doesn't mean I'm nervous, it's just a force of habit from childhood"

[rei]

cylon are you saying that hair twirling is attractive to you?

i would find that a bit annoying myself. to each his own though

@brendan: yes sadist and masochist is a reasonable comparison i think.

[MidasGirl]

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

Are you talking about George Clooney? Honestly, I have a hard time seeing what is so sexy about him. He's a good actor and he has humor, that I know. Maybe if I met him in person, I would find him charming? But based only on movies, I find him totally not attractive.

(I don't mean it in a mean way against him. I'm sure he's a great person. Just not sexy as a man, to me.)

Maybe it's cuz he's not 19?


He he. I kid...I kid.....

[MidasGirl]

Originally Posted by cylon

If that's your definition of submissive, then yes, I like submissive women. I prefer the term "feminine", but again, that's just me.

In that case then, maybe what you really meant when you said, "good women are hard to come by", you really meant, "submissive women, pardon me, feminine women, are hard to come by"?

[Daffy Duck]

Although technically it is a rule to stay on topic, it is rarely a rule I try to follow in my forum career. It's hard to because conversations naturally evolve into other topics sometimes.

Originally Posted by marinik

So back to OP - what is status for you people?

I do generally think of social status as fame, money, position, power, etc. But for me, social status means nothing if I don't have substance. Celebrities who have status but not substance are the ones who become cokeheads.

Originally Posted by cylon

My point was you didn't like the way the conversation was evolving so you tried to divert it to something else.

Marinik, this may or may not be true, but I can tell you that Cylon would LOVE it if you were submissive and just agreed with him.

[marinik]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

Marinik, this may or may not be true, but I can tell you that Cylon would LOVE it if you were submissive and just agreed with him.

Sorry but no can do at this time in my life

But I absolutely respect the wish of the majority, so I didn't insist on returning to the initial topic. When the author of the OP continued in the discussion I retreated. It seems that sex is always the No.1 topic.

But most people like much more to talk about it (and are better in talking about) than doing it. Specially some men.

[Michael Chui]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

Marinik, this may or may not be true, but I can tell you that Cylon would LOVE it if you were submissive and just agreed with him.

I can't tell if this is because he likes submissiveness, or because marinik is female.

Originally Posted by marinik

But I absolutely respect the wish of the majority, so I didn't insist on returning to the initial topic. When the author of the OP continued in the discussion I retreated. It seems that sex is always the No.1 topic.

Conversation grows. A long conversation inevitably touches a dozen different topics. If you have a point you're making or a question you're asking, then yeah, it pays to stay on topic. When people wander off an OP, it seems to imply that the original topic wasn't actually all that interesting.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by MidasGirl

In that case then, maybe what you really meant when you said, "good women are hard to come by", you really meant, "submissive women, pardon me, feminine women, are hard to come by"?

I meant what I said. Pardon me, but I have to go "walk all over" someone right now and be a bully, because clearly, anything I have said obviously just means that. Forget what I'm actually SAYING, just put words in my mouth and try to get me to defend myself.

I just won't be here to actually do it.

[rei]

aww that is silly... dominance and submission are powerful, somewhat charged terms, but people can be dominant without being *******. and submissive people don't just take every little thing that's dished out, though perhaps it takes more for them to assert themselves.

there's a lot of submissive women out there, women are conditioned to be submissive.

[cylon]

I have to speculate on what "*******" means.

No I don't think dominant/submissive is a bad thing. These are obviously very charged terms though. I know what I mean, so I guess that's all that really matters.

[Rose of Cairo]

Originally Posted by MidasGirl

Maybe it's cuz he's not 19?


He he. I kid...I kid.....

LOL! Haha!

No doubt, this must be the reason.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by rei

women are conditioned to be submissive.

I think it's actually flipping around so men are being conditioned to being submissive. If you use the word submissive these days women want to tie to you to a chair and force you to watch an entire college course on female empowerment, wondering why all of the sudden the life has gone out of your eyes when you look at them.

But to each their own.

[Daffy Duck]

Originally Posted by cylon

I just won't be here to actually do it.

Oh, silly. You just did!

I think what Cylon likes is the same thing most men like in a woman. I had a friend who described it like this: "I like a woman who knows she's hot (confident) but doesn't act like she's hot (arrogant)."

I think this is an attractive quality for both men and women. It's just confidence, that's all.

Now I'm not sure what planet everyone lives on, but it's clear to me that men still run the world on mine. So this whole idea of women beating men down is nonsense. Men are still presidents and rulers. Men don't face a glass ceiling. This whole conversation reminds me of the book, The Decline of Men. I haven't actually read this book but I "randomly" saw it today.

[rei]

Originally Posted by cylon

I think it's actually flipping around so men are being conditioned to being submissive.

i was referring to the things that start in childhood. yes, some mothers train their boys to be submissive, but if there is a strong masculine figure around this is nipped in the bud.

and cylon, i'm sure you know, if you did not so often use the rhetoric of the emasculating woman, you would not get such reactions where women want to show you how much progress has been made with all that sensitivity training stuff.

your comments don't bother me as much because i can tell you're comfortable with that outlook and why would i want to change it? you strongly resist such things anyway, and i can think of more productive ways to spend my time.

now, where's my whip?

p.s. i actually wrote "a hole" and it got asterisked.

[Daffy Duck]

Originally Posted by rei

now, where's my whip?

I think you left it at home.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by rei

now, where's my whip?

I'm not falling for that again, you aren't ever going to find that whip.

[Michael Chui]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

I think what Cylon likes is the same thing most men like in a woman. I had a friend who described it like this: "I like a woman who knows she's hot (confident) but doesn't act like she's hot (arrogant)."

Actually, it sounds more like he doesn't like certain qualities in women. He talks more about what is wrong with women than he does what is right about them. What is wrong about society today, rather than what is right. That's not uncommon, even here, but there's additionally a whole lot of "us versus them" and general scarcity thinking in operation, whereas most people who are similarly well-adjusted tend to see possibilities everywhere. He's so negatively charged that I have to work at it to remember the good and useful things he's said, even though I'm certain of my memory of them.

cylon is a person who doesn't like conflict in any form. It's not fun for him. Then he applies that to relationships, as a relationship that's not fun is one not worth having. I think that explains his disagreements here.

[MidasGirl]

Originally Posted by Michael Chui

Actually, it sounds more like he doesn't like certain qualities in women. He talks more about what is wrong with women than he does what is right about them. What is wrong about society today, rather than what is right. That's not uncommon, even here, .

The universe has to stay balanced, somehow.......Even a PD forum will seek that balance

But yeah, the truth is, people get more of what they focus on.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by MidasGirl

The universe has to stay balanced, somehow.......Even a PD forum will seek that balance

I love you too, MidasGirl.

[MidasGirl]

Me too. All in good fun. Just don't ask for that silly self ban anymore.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by MidasGirl

Just don't ask for that silly self ban anymore.

Yeah, I know you were the first one to ask about me. I wasn't expecting that.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled program.

[Gracestars]

Originally Posted by cylon

Giggling girls who play with their hair excessively as you talk to them, trying to act like they aren't nervous.

"cylon I play with my hair excessively and it doesn't mean I'm nervous, it's just a force of habit from childhood"

See now that reads like 'bimbo' to me. Do you like bimbos? Just curious..

[cylon]

Originally Posted by Gracestars

See now that reads like 'bimbo' to me. Do you like bimbos? Just curious..

All girls do that, not "just" bimbos.

[vartann]

Originally Posted by MidasGirl

Well, he's a rare combination. Incredibly handsome, charismatic, lots of money, very successful in his career, and seems like a really a cool person. Maybe he just hasn't met the right woman?

Italian man 37 y old living in Asia
i have it all
feel free to PM me we can meet in Vietnam

Pace e Salute


PS of course as regards money i only "shower" my regular Concubines, to which status you might apply in time

[James81]

Originally Posted by Michael Chui

Actually, it sounds more like he doesn't like certain qualities in women. He talks more about what is wrong with women than he does what is right about them. What is wrong about society today, rather than what is right. That's not uncommon, even here, but there's additionally a whole lot of "us versus them" and general scarcity thinking in operation, whereas most people who are similarly well-adjusted tend to see possibilities everywhere. He's so negatively charged that I have to work at it to remember the good and useful things he's said, even though I'm certain of my memory of them.

cylon is a person who doesn't like conflict in any form. It's not fun for him. Then he applies that to relationships, as a relationship that's not fun is one not worth having. I think that explains his disagreements here.

It's fun talking about him in the third person. It's like he's not even here.

[marito]

The most important thing for a girl is to look at least nice. Then we can think whether it's a worthy partner or not, but we won't settle for someone who we don't find attractive. That's for starters.. Then, of course, between two girls which we find good looking we'll choose the one whose personality is more appealing to us (sacrificing, in most cases, a bit of looks for that.) But no matter how nice the personality, if looks don't appeal, it won't work.

I may sound cruel and repulsive saying this, sure. But it's what 99% of the guys think, including me and my friends. Wise girls will know that!

[MidasGirl]

Originally Posted by cylon

All girls do that, not "just" bimbos.

You're right.....girls do that. Women don't

[MidasGirl]

Originally Posted by vartann

Italian man 37 y old living in Asia
i have it all
feel free to PM me we can meet in Vietnam

Pace e Salute


PS of course as regards money i only "shower" my regular Concubines, to which status you might apply in time

He he............hey guess what? Your sense of humor is a turn on. Who cares? I would overthrow all your concubines in no time.....