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Hi all, someone very close to me just got raped. I'm good at handling crisis situations, so I talked her through the drama, made sure she'd go see a doctor and get legal help, etc. Now that all this is taken care of, what shows up is the whole emotional turmoil. She's traveling in another country. I cannot hug her. Even communicating is difficult. I listen to her and tell her that the way she feels is normal, and encourage her to express her feelings and go see a therapist. But... I'm feeling quite overwhelmed. Does anybody have experience with this? Is there something smart I can say that would be more helpful? Thanks. |
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The best thing you can do for her is to be there, be a friend to her and encourage her to get the professional help she may need. What more can any friend actually do? In the end it is her choice whether or not to take this advice, and you do not help her by taking emotional responsibility for her or her situation.
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Rose, i have experience with sexual assault survivors. loved ones often want to do something to help, but there is probably not a magic thing you can say. be there for her, hold the space for her to express any emotions that come up. being there for her is the best thing you can do. i know in the U.S. there are Rape Crisis Centers in each state where people can be seen by someone trained in this area, but i don't know how other countries are set up. also watch for PTSD symptoms as this is a traumatic experience. if you have any specific questions let me know. and hey, a lot of people try to act like nothing traumatic happened to their loved one, so at least you aren't ignoring this. p.s. there is no 'normal' way to respond to rape. there's not a formula, there are stages but not everyone passes through them in the same order or at all. so while you may prefer knowing what to expect, hopefully it will help to know there is nothing standard to expect. Last edited by rei; 11-02-2009 at 07:18 PM. |
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i don't have it memorized so i'll need to track it down. i should be able to find it after dinner. if not i'll do my best with what i remember. i do know the first stage is Denial. it's similar to the Kubler-Ross stages of dying i think. encouraging a person to continue doing things they enjoy, getting plenty of rest, eating regularly is helpful too. seems a lot of women respond to this by getting a bit passively self-destructive, so encouraging life affirming choices should help with that. but done in a supportive way, not a pushy way obviously (though pushing can be useful for people who seem determined to self-destruct). |
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Bu tit seems you're handling it really well so far. Hugs to you and your friend. | |
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I think follow her lead and remember that it might take time to process all the information. it will go in cycles. She might be in shock and not really be processing what is happening to her right now. At least she is talking about it and communicating about it. That's a great step. So many people just bury it deep. You will be doing a wonderful loving service by holding that healing space for her. Even with a dodgy phoneline you will be doing that energetically anyway. Take time to look after yourself too. You will be affected by what she tells you if you're not careful to keep your vibration raised and clean. So please remember that after talking to her to ask whatever energy isn't yours that you've picked up to leave. You don't want to be a sponge and absorb a load of crap. Let it bounce off you and you will be of much better service. I don't think there are any magic words, I wish there were. When she is ready you could offer an SR clearing for her - but I would wait a bit before offering until the shock has passed. Big hugs to you and your friend. |
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Holistic Star made a really good point about doing this mindfully. i've gotten overly-involved energetically in these types of stories before and then i had to focus on myself, so better to just keep it balanced from the get-go. might be easier said than done but you don't need to accept the traumatic influence to be supportive. |
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I just wanted to say that you are doing good. From what I remember reading somewhere is especially after a while some people get tired of hearing about the same traumatic event over and over again. If you can still be there for her in the future and listend when she needs to talk, I believe you are being the best friend she could wish for. IŽll think of her and while meditating send her and you some love. |
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Hey, thank you so much everybody for the good advice, love and hugs. Going to the embassy is the first thing I told her to do. She went there and they gave her the names and addresses of a French doctor, psychotherapist, etc. She is being legally and officially supported and getting both medical and psychological professional assistance now. For now, she's still in a state of shock and not doing good at all, but tonight she wrote an email which sounded better. I will acknowledge that. Thanks for reminding me of the energy thing! I admit that I have a hard time not letting it affect me. It's not only the negative stuff that I pick up from her, it's also what I create myself. For example, I'm worried. The rapist didn't use a condom and the HIV infection rate is very high where she is. She's on a preventive HIV therapy now and also got a load of other vaccines and medicine. All this makes her feel like crap physically and she also was slightly injured when it happened. I try to stay positive and detached but I can't help it, I'm worried. I'm also a bit irritated because every time I do really great, someone shows up with some big **** happening to them which distracts me. And I feel like I have to be strong now in order to be there for her, when "being strong" is totally not aligned with the energy I'm currently trying to bring into my life. Anyway, I just needed to vent. She will definitely get a Soul Realignment reading and clearing when I'm done with my training. She always attracts such crap and I know that's because of something in her record. Actually, I feel bad about the whole thing because my intuition was strongly telling me that something would happen if she went. But I didn't say anything because I thought it was her decision to go or not, and I didn't want to hold her back or pressure her in any way. And now, this happened. |
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well, there you go taking on some of that vibe of a survivor who blames him/herself. i think you even know you're doing that in terms of saying you felt something and didn't express it to her. as you said it was her choice. it may sound cold to you for me to say that, but if this was some destined thing or some type of karmic balancing, she would have attracted it even if she had not gone on this trip. so if you agree with what i'm saying, this is a good example of why it's important to have that energetic mindfulness - and if you're incredibly empathic, even some energetic distance. not so you can be uncaring, so you can be a better caring influence in the long run! p.s. Rose, i hope you know i'm not just trying to be mean or trying to make you feel bad. i'm just trying to help you be conscious as you support your friend. Last edited by rei; 11-03-2009 at 11:18 PM. |
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Hi Rose, sad to hear of your friend, rape is a big problem in many countries here in Africa to help her to be safe you could put protective energy around her and tell her often that you are helping to protect her...this can be a real comfort even if she holds very different beliefs than you. if she has different beliefs to you it can help to quote platitudes like "God loves those most who suffered most" etc. Sayings that take blame away and make suffering spiritual (you say she attracts bad stuff) its excruciating to face lurking LOA thoughts after tell her often that she is handling the whole thing very well and tell her often that you admire her courage and strength tell her often that she will get thru this and the sun will shine again perhaps you can do surrogate EFT tapping on yourself, for her and tell her you are doing healing for her i hope something here can be helpful |
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Hi all, just wanted to say thanks again to everybody for all the support and advice. She's slowly getting better. Quote:
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Hi Rose, i hope your friend is recovering well and you are also able to focus enough on your own endeavours. Your empathetic, practical support is wonderful It could help to remind your friend that being raped in a foreign country is too often a case of being a victim of cultural misperceptions and misread nuances on the part of the perpetrator, here in Africa (as in many other countries and cultures worldwide) there are often cultural beliefs, myths and gender role beliefs that are..... wrong or illogical The added trauma is the waiting for her to be declared HIV negative Sending love, peace and healing to your friend Last edited by Roxon; 11-14-2009 at 07:08 PM. |
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Roxon, thank you SO much! Louise Hay, what a great idea! I will give her this affirmation to read every day. I doubt she'll do it, but at least she'll be given the opportunity to. And I'll say it on her behalf, too. Quote:
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Of course I don't do any of this. I think I'll write back to make it clear that she's perfectly worthy and lovable no matter what choices she makes and that I love her. But first I need to process the shock. When I read her email my eyes fell out of my head. I can't help imagining how she must feel like a piece of ♥♥♥♥♥ for doing such things. Wow that one is really hard to take. I need to remember the emotional and energetic distance thing and not let my empathy affect me. | ||
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Hi Rose. Gosh with all that is going on in your life at present you are still managing to offer wonderfully attentive support to your friend, so much so that you are really reaching her inside of herself. What a drain on your energy this can be, im sure finding the balance will serve you well in your journey with soul realignment study but wow Rose you are being the type of friend people dream of Last edited by Roxon; 11-15-2009 at 06:13 AM. |
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