If this is really what women not only think, but read, then it's no wonder...

[Apollo]

2 things are painfully evident here...

1) Don't take dating advice from a women with clear and seemingly deep routed insecurities about themselves (tell me i'm skinny!?!)

2) Follow dating advice from the type of people you would like to emulate, or date....so if you would like a relationship with an insecure women who would probably hound your every move and become more needy than a 3 week old baby in the first week...keep on reading her articles!

[seanner689]

I'm pretty sure girls know if they are skinny or not ... I can't see how calling a fat girl skinny would go over well in any situation.

Besides, what's wrong with being called athletic? Athletes (IMO) have the best bodies of anyone out there.

[172]

Originally Posted by jamesbiz

oh and as almost what everyone on this forum seems to understand..
If you think it, you will get it. If you think every guy that would want you wants to bone you, then every guy you find that wants you will want to bone you. Enjoy your life.

What's wrong with that? I don't see why believing men want to have sex with me if they find me attractive is a problem...I just don't want to hear it too soon. He should keep it to himself until the time is right. But, thank you for the well-wishing. I'll take it minus the cynicism.

[172]

Originally Posted by jamesbiz

I'll just say one thing. Being a completely honest person usually lends to it being rather difficult to be disrespectful of others or tactless. Your identity will mold to your honest self, and that is all that you will show people. Again you are assuming that an identity is something permanent. It's not about our identity. Our identities are all fake anyways, and it's all made up from the beliefs that we have gathered over all our lifetimes. So it's not so much being fake, but being dishonest TO YOUR SELF. It's enough that we are dishonest to ourselves with out being aware of it. There is no need to make the situation even worse by adding on the problem of lying to ourselves with awareness of it.

Right. I don't believe I've disputed any of that. I was just addressing that some women do not want to hear crude advances but that I believe it's okay for a man to share if he finds her pretty or thin or whatever....if you don't find a woman to your liking, then you probably won't have a scenario where you'd even need to refrain from being "inauthentic" about her appearance anyway.

On another note....I don't even read women's magazines and I certainly don't look to them for advice on men. I learned in my late teens that they were just filling up pages with crap.

[songwriter]

Originally Posted by brendannz

Maybe you did badly but by her standards you did a good performance. When Michael Jordan has an off night he'll still score 15 points or more

No it was like Michael Jordan shooting and half of his shots not even hitting the basket.
Yes, maybe the other half were good... it was my worst performance ever anyway.
Anyway if she had complimented me in a true way nothing would have changed in the end...

[songwriter]

As for my experience, the compliments that made women really happy are when you point out something that most people don't notice or don't compliment about them.

I mean... if you met someone with stunning looks... and you compliment her on her looks, that's what she has heard a lot of times.
But if you notice some special quality/talent on her and tell her, now they realize you've realized and they reassure on that too.


At least this happens with the kind of women I like the most... skip the obvious thing and go deeper. (sometimes the obvious thing is personality or talent and the deep are looks)

If not, it's like meeting Paul McCartney and saying... "Hey, the Beatles were a great band!"

The most obvious thing, if complimented, can be sort of boring.

[172]

Originally Posted by songwriter

as for my experience, the compliments that made women really happy are when you point out something that most people don't notice or don't compliment about them.

I mean... If you met someone with stunning looks... And you compliment her on her looks, that's what she has heard a lot of times.
But if you notice some special quality/talent on her and tell her, now they realize you've realized and they reassure on that too.


At least this happens with the kind of women i like the most... Skip the obvious thing and go deeper. (sometimes the obvious thing is personality or talent and the deep are looks)

if not, it's like meeting paul mccartney and saying... "hey, the beatles were a great band!"

the most obvious thing, if complimented, can be sort of boring.

true true true!

[brendannz]

I think the most attractive behavior is to show a geniune interest in the other person, but sometimes questions, and compliments can be boring, if they're not genuine and are annoying...

[songwriter]

Originally Posted by 172

true true true!

The most ironic thing about me is that in the end it seems I'm wise in the subject. lol....