What makes a real man?

[genn]

Who knows other people he is clever,
who knows himself he is educated.

Who can win others he is strong,
who can win himself he is almighty.

[Plays With Life]

Originally Posted by marinik

DeAngelo's stuff????

If you mean the book titled King, Warrior, Magician, Lover .. yeah, I got it from the title. I haven't read the book. Seems like a good one, though.

[songwriter]

Originally Posted by brendannz

Yeah, maybe everyones got problems and got strengths so it's never something you can diagnose.. I agree about the persistance thing.

I mean, I've seen people that's shy, but hey, they have girlfriends. And if not they eventually find one. And they're shy. No that's not a cause.
It sounds like a excuse, you know.
Well, it's you or me, deep inside of ourselves. It's the whole of things we are not any particular behaviour or trait.

Like high standards for ourselves and others (and especially for a possible partner)... you expect her to have somehow what they say a "real man" should have, but it's not easy at all to find that... that kind of women use to be engaged...

We can still try for someone that we "like enough" or so, but it shows we have no passion for her, and it doesn't make sense, she's afraid we're not really interested... and actually we're not so interested... like others could be.

So I don't know anything else but persisting. Not everyone we like is already engaged.

We could be not so hard on ourselves and our possible faults and on the women ones either... but we can't, is what we are...

[songwriter]

Originally Posted by marinik

DeAngelo's stuff????

it looks absolutely as De Angelo's stuff...

[brendannz]

Originally Posted by songwriter

I mean, I've seen people that's shy, but hey, they have girlfriends. And if not they eventually find one. And they're shy. No that's not a cause.
It sounds like a excuse, you know.
Well, it's you or me, deep inside of ourselves. It's the whole of things we are not any particular behaviour or trait.

Like high standards for ourselves and others (and especially for a possible partner)... you expect her to have somehow what they say a "real man" should have, but it's not easy at all to find that... that kind of women use to be engaged...

We can still try for someone that we "like enough" or so, but it shows we have no passion for her, and it doesn't make sense, she's afraid we're not really interested... and actually we're not so interested... like others could be.

So I don't know anything else but persisting. Not everyone we like is already engaged.

We could be not so hard on ourselves and our possible faults and on the women ones either... but we can't, is what we are...

OK, yeah, well maybe it's just that you're putting 'being in a relationship' as a collosal achievement, and also something that makes you 'a real man' When it's really just not that big a deal..

I know I make a WAY too big a deal out of things (probably everyone does)