Can't Talk To Women?

[aomega54]

Hey,

I stumbled across something that single men may find interesting:

Close More Deals: How To Cut Your Blow-Out Rate In Half.

It explains why women lose interest in us men minutes after we approach them.

(It's a free e-book - it seems someone is giving it away to do some market research).

I liked it because I'm the kind of guy who can start conversations with women OK, but then they go 'back to their friends' or to 'the bathroom' or whatever.

This helped me understand what I was doing wrong. Hope it helps another guy out there.


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[Svante]

i don't have this problem.

[funchy]

As a woman, I'm not sure what to think....

"It's only when you're not
living your purpose and
trying to meet her
standards that you'll have
to try and pass these tests
because the right answer
wont naturally come to
you."

What test? Was I supposed to be testing men? Testing them on what? Why didn't I get the memo on this?

"someone is giving it away to do some market research"

They might want to thoroughly grammar check it.

I'm also not so sure this is the best title: "S*** TESTS." Sounds like a handbook for doing medical fecal exams.

[nocturne]

Its not always conscious behavior so women might not know they are doing it.
It's important to a woman how a man behaves so they do subtle things to find out.

[LifeFirst]

So where the hell is the free ebook? And why do I have to go through some stupid survey and sign bunch of stuff??

[James81]

That ebook was utterly worthless. Which I kind of expected, because it was pretty obvious that it was setting up to "wet the appetite" so that you'll buy their classes or their other books.

The grammar was terrible, but meh.

I've heard a lot about "Sh1t tests" during my personal development, and everytime someone writes about how to "pass" them, I have to think to myself "Why?" I mean, the whole point of PUA is that it's targetted to insecure, needy, supplicating men who want to improve with women. So why are we telling men who already jump through hoops for girls to....jump through hoops for girls?

It's important to recognize when she's testing you (and to the girl above who said she doesn't, sometimes these "tests" are more subconscious than active, sneaky tests), and then it's important to completely disregard the fact that you are being tested and not play that game or jump through that hoop.

[nocturne]

nah it doens't tell men to jump through hoops, it tells then to deal with them intelligently. the pu community targets all kinds of men though. I know some guys who are already good and want to try new stuff to learn/get better.

[James81]

Originally Posted by nocturne

nah it doens't tell men to jump through hoops,

Sure it does....Negs, DHVs, dismatling sh1t-tests, canned openers...the entire process is designed to teach men each hoop they need to jump through to get a girl to sleep with him.

When the reality is that pretty much all you need to know is how to be comfortable in your own skin, get what you want (out of life as a whole), and not be afraid to assert yourself.

[Cameron Teone]

The guy is not providing any content on the forum for anyone. He is just sending everyone to a squeeze page to sell you stuff.

I am surprised his post hasn't been taken down. The ebook is just a ploy to get your email address. That's part of marketing, fine. Don't disguise it as something else.

[brendannz]

I don't think it's very healthy to believe that the women are a massively difficult obstacle course you need to learn to manuver your way through..

[nocturne]

Originally Posted by James81

Sure it does....Negs, DHVs, dismatling sh1t-tests, canned openers...the entire process is designed to teach men each hoop they need to jump through to get a girl to sleep with him.

When the reality is that pretty much all you need to know is how to be comfortable in your own skin, get what you want (out of life as a whole), and not be afraid to assert yourself.

yeah, your'e right about that. if you take care of the inner that will translate and the outer will take care of itself.

[aomega54]

Good point, nocturne.

And it seems the link wasn't of much benefit. It's a shame, I thought it was useful - especially the part about living your purpose as a man. Did anyone get that far into it?


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[Andy4]

I can remember,

A girl at a club my friends were at and this girl unbeknown to me had already knocked back my very good looking mate, I then asked her to dance and she said yes, she later said I'll have to go to the bathroom etc.

Ten minutes later when I was back chatting with the boys she came over and tapped me on the shoulder and we had a smooch together I genuinely lost her number and It really upset me but hey life's full of disapointments, looking back on my life, I was 18 then, I might've married that girl she was so pretty and had a good heart, I was gutted.

Talk to women like you would your mate, mum, brother etc. Then you will get results, I really dont mean to be rude but I conquered this years ago, Teach me something.

Andy.

[SimonaRich]

As a woman I can say that I like when guys approach me confidently and don't make a big deal in trying to have a conversation with me. That puts me at ease. However when the guy acts unnaturally and tries to act like someone else, that puts me off and I do not want to get into conversation with such person.

[UnleashReality]

really cool that you're sharing this. i'm sure lots of guys will benefit from it.

immersed myself in the social improvement realm for a while, best resources i found were at Real Social Dynamics Nation and by rsd. you can prolly find some online if you're an internet hustla apparantly

respect for getting things handled.

i run a site on personal development stuff which is what i think all pickup ultimately comes down to. it's not you lines that gets the girls, it's you. check it out and leave a comment. Unleash Reality

all the best
alex