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Old 01-02-2009, 01:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Smile Where to meet conscious people?

I'd love to have more conscious relationships in my life.

But where to meet conscious people? Or how to meet conscious people while there are so many unconscious people around?
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lasti, are you still living in your hometown or at some other place?

If you have moved, search for a toastmasters club

If I remember right you learned buddhism from books. Search for a local buddhist group that meets regularly.

I think it's key to join groups that have conscious members.
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Old 01-02-2009, 03:10 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You can learn alot from zombies
You just have to be conscious enough to open them up
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Old 01-02-2009, 07:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I really need some help with this as well. I go to college in a town that 100% revolves around the college and the college revolves almost 100% around drinking and getting ****ed up. All I see around me are zombies. I have one guy friend who talks to me about getting in touch with his higher self, except he doesn't know what that voice in his head is called, and he likes to ignore it because he's scared of it's potential. I talk to him when I can but otherwise I'm very alone at my school, and I really need to find some support from like-minded people. What other clubs or associations tend to consist of conscious people? My school has a million clubs, a lot of them aren't even listed on the list of clubs. They're like secret organizations but if I know what I'm looking for I can probably find them.
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Old 01-02-2009, 12:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi!
Why not join some classes or clubs such as yoga, tai chi or meditation? The people who usually go are interesting and can help you grow. At my uni there are also clubs that are involved with conservation, debating, buisness and career skills, drama, healthy eating etc. I'm sure these kinds of activities would all lead to meeting at least some 'concsious' people!
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Cool you're asking lasti! I'm asking myself the same question.

Since I moved to this new city (and country), I haven't formed any new friendships. There are my old friends abroad that I still communicate with over internet and phone, and all those lovely and wonderful people I met online. That was enough to fulfill me. But now I think it's time to start hanging out with a few people in real life, too. I talk to lots of strangers when I'm in the city and I know a few persons a bit more closely, but there is nobody I deeply resonate with or would be interested in hanging out with. I'm wondering where to meet such people.

(There is no toastmasters where I live. I'm planning on creating a local TM club though)
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I believe that to find conscious people, you have to go to places highly conscious people would go.

Bookshops - find the section with classic novels, or intellectual ones.

Supermarkets - Go to the vegetarian / Vegan section. Or pick the person that seems to have a trolley full of veg, they are probably highly conscious.

The point I am making is that you won't find highly conscious people by looking for them all huddled together in one place, they shine like diamonds in the mud, but you have to turn the light on, to see the reflection.
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Old 01-02-2009, 05:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'd love to have more conscious relationships in my life.

But where to meet conscious people? Or how to meet conscious people while there are so many unconscious people around?
In Poland it's actually Catholic youth groups. SO many people there aligned with love. I actually pretend to be catholic just to connect with those wonderful people. I still believe in love, which is core of their faith, they're not the kind of catholics steve would make fun of.

If you're looking for people that communicate with power, try Toastmasters or some other clubs developing skills. Take some classes and socialize with other students.

As for poeple aligned with truth, i dunno ... science competitions in high shool realms, maybe some other scientific community in the big world. How about discussion forums or clubs?
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Old 01-02-2009, 07:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I know this wasn't my post but I really appreciate people just sort of spitting out ideas like this. please continue. i don't go back to school for another week.
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Old 01-02-2009, 09:45 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Some places or shared interest that made me meet counscious people :

-Vegetarian community
-Pick Up Artist community
-Youngs entrepreneurs (for some reason I connect better with entrepreneurs if they're young. I think this is because they're more likely to be "thinking outside the box".
-In my house (housemates)

I've never really had to specifically look for counscious relationships to come into my life. The usual pattern to meet conscious people has been something like this :

1 : have a goal or a domain in my life I want to improve.
2 : by pursuing this goal, I met some people having the same goals or desire to improve.
3 : they became my friends.

For romantic relationships I may be delusionnal but it just happened, as if it was luck. The more I raised my conscousness, the more I met and connected with interesting girls.

Also, it helps to see the counscious part in every people to form conscious relationships. Sometimes it doesn't feel that the people in front of us are "couscious", but after some time it changes.

For instance I remember one of my housemates last year. We were very good friends but I felt we weren't deeply resonating together, and we had quite different belief systems.

However, after six months spent together, speaking about all sorts of topics, we starting experimenting some personal dvt concepts in real life and he became a personal development addict, and had real results in his life.

At the time, our friendship didn't seem to be evolving. On a day to day basis a six month long cange seems very slow, if not invisible, but at the end of the six months there had been a lot of change. Now we're still exchanging ideas and sharing the advancements of our projects, and I consider him a great relationship.

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Old 01-02-2009, 11:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Unfortunately, finding conscious people is a 100x harder than finding the right person to date.

I have come across many people who have challenges finding people to go out with, yet alone the whole finding someone who is conscious.

The solution as I view it is to like the people from the previous comments say, go to the places like the vegan places etc.

Another great place to go are seminars with motivational gurus.

However, I advise you to not narrow your focus to people who are just conscious, but people who are open to that idea. They say that opposites attract.

Just a thought....let me know what you think about it.

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Old 01-02-2009, 11:50 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I guess it is kind of closed minded of me to only seek out people who are already conscious. I wanted a mentor but thats really not
something I need right now. Just after I became conscious I helped my friend with the transition. He is the only conscious person I
know in real life. A friend of my ex boyfriends was conscious, and she sometimes passed along messages to me.

Anyway my point was that asking for people who are already conscious is kind of like asking for it served on a silver platter. Why should they just be handed to me? I guess I need to teach someone to open their eyes if I want someone else around who can see.
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Old 01-02-2009, 11:52 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm gonna have to disagree with this here. In my experience most who actually consider themselves to be a part of this community are largely creeps, misogynists, or really creepy misogynists. Not to say that there's nothing to learn from some PUA material, but I'd be wary of anybody who follows it religiously and unironically uses terms like "neg," "sarge," "DHV," and "AFC."
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I'm gonna have to disagree with this here. In my experience most who actually consider themselves to be a part of this community are largely creeps, misogynists, or really creepy misogynists. Not to say that there's nothing to learn from some PUA material, but I'd be wary of anybody who follows it religiously and unironically uses terms like "neg," "sarge," "DHV," and "AFC."
I was wondering about this as well. I don't know much about the pick up artist community but what would attract conscious people to that environment..
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:51 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Hey thanks, a lot of cool answers in a short time. Well, I didn't expect anything else.

Actually I hadn't heard of PUAs until Steve mentioned them in one of his recent posts. Is this just an online community or are they some kind of organized?

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I guess it is kind of closed minded of me to only seek out people who are already conscious. I wanted a mentor but thats really not
something I need right now. Just after I became conscious I helped my friend with the transition.
That's a cool story. I'm also trying to move people to the way of conscious living. And it's great to watch people moving in this direction.
But it bothers me more and more that I don't know anybody who's resonating with me on a deep level. It really, really sucks!

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Unfortunately, finding conscious people is a 100x harder than finding the right person to date.
I don't hope so. I haven't even found the right person to date yet...

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1 : have a goal or a domain in my life I want to improve.
2 : by pursuing this goal, I met some people having the same goals or desire to improve.
3 : they became my friends.
That seems to be a good plan. I like the idea of looking for people with similiar goals. It might be more effective than looking for people with similar interests.

You guys are amazing...
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Hmmm....

My goals being "solitary" goals, I don't know how to find people with similar goals. Online, yeah of course, plenty of them. But in real life??

I took some interesting classes and hang out in interesting shops. And I do talk to people. But... dunno, there's just nobody I really resonate with.

On the other hand, it's not a priority of mine, so it's not really important for now. But it would be cool.
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On the other hand, it's not a priority of mine, so it's not really important for now. But it would be cool.
Same thing goes for me.
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Same thing goes for me.
Dear lasti, the solution of course is that you move to where I live now!
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Dear lasti, the solution of course is that you move to where I live now!
I know!
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Now I think it's really important for me to find like-minded people locally!

I love you wonderful online friends from the bottom of my heart, but communicating online can be so laborious! It's so easy to misunderstand each other, and every little misunderstanding takes an eternity to write through. I'd love to be able to blurt out every nonsense I think and it not have so heavy consequences.

It would also be nice to have a friend whom I can call and tell "Hey, what about indoor climbing today?!" Or someone who rings at my door all excited and spends two hours explaining to me their newest project and how they will realize it. Or someone I could cuddle and hug from time to time.

I need to express love physically in other ways than through typing on a keyboard.
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I'd love to have more conscious relationships in my life.

But where to meet conscious people? Or how to meet conscious people while there are so many unconscious people around?
My pedantic, dogmatic, unhumble opinion:

The problem is that consciousness is not a religion, hobby, or costume. If it were, it would stop being consciousness. Unitarian Universalists and Buddhists and raw foodists and bloggers and posters on the Steve Pavlina forum and members of the Democratic Party are no more conscious as a group, or likely to be conscious as individuals, than are plumbers, mechanics, bowlers, everyday people you meet in real life, or just ordinary guys you meet fishing on the pier (actually these guys might be pretty conscious ).

In my own experience, there isn't any one place that conscious people gather. It's not like a club you can seek out and then go to. Actually, going somewhere "to meet conscious people" can work against you.

You're as likely to meet conscious people on a bowling league of mechanics and plumbers, or at the docks, as you are in a group that "calls" itself conscious. Actually, if you met a conscious person in a place you didn't expect, you'd spot him or her more easily. You'll spot the genuinely conscious person in a poor or working class group a lot more easily than you will in a group of upper middle class white Unitarian Universalists.

In the liberal, artsy "freethinking" milieux lots of people spout off consciousness to "fit in".

It's easier to spot a cat among dogs than it is among dogs in cat costumes. I was going to use black sheep/white sheep, then wolf/sheep, as analogies, but realized these terms had baggage I wanted to leave out of this conversation. I actually met the most nourishing, tightest group of friends in a small town where most people were "work a day" Christians who had nothing in common with any of us, not in places you'd think I would've met a greater quantity of like minds. The "like minds" stood out more, and somehow were truer and more genuinely freethinking, in the small town than in the places I've been where it was fashionable to be freethinking/liberal/etc.

The point of this is not to put down any group of people, though it may have come off like that.

The point is to point out that you don't meet "conscious" people in any one place. They're everywhere. If you know how to spot 'em, you'll find em, and conscious people tend to find each other. "Consciousness" doesn't have any particular flavor.

Just a thought:
Volunteer to work with the aged. You'll learn a lot. Spend time with a diversity of senior citizens. Many people stop pretending to be someone else when they get old. You'll learn to spot conscious people and then you can apply that to the same-aged people you meet.

And a great book is "Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism" by Chogyam Trungpa... *looking* for conscious people and associating it with certain trappings (in this community you can start assuming conscious people are all raw foodists who blog for a living) can be a trap. Trungpa (who was Tibetan) would come to teachings in a three-piece suit, to shake up the Westerner hippies in Tibetan robes and sandals and make his point.

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look for someone who laughs at your jokes and says jokes at the same time ^^.
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I've met more conscious people through my spiritual school: Ridhwan School
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Erm.....meet people that DONT reside in a cemetary =D
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I posted some thoughts about conscious people and consciousness here:

The Skeptical Mystic: Where do you meet conscious people?
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I posted some thoughts about conscious people and consciousness here:

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Thanks for the article! I think you're right.
Now I'm wondering how to recognize conscious people in the crowd of unconscious people. Should I instantly ask all people I meet "what is your life purpose?"
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I'm currently living in China, I find a lot of travelers are awesome conscious people.

Some are the absolute opposite though...
But I'd say as you travel and meet other foreigners to the place you are living the chances for meeting conscious people are much much higher!
The act of travelling definitely helps a person become way more conscious too!

The only trouble with meeting conscious travelers is that they are usually only in your life for a short time.
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What is this thread about, I want to get involved.
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