Where are places to find mature, successful women?

[Scipio]

I'll preface this by saying that I'm a 21 year old male. I think I'm great looking (although looks don't matter much to women), and have got a good head on my shoulders. The big factor is that I seem out of alignment with a lot of girls my age. I've embraced my purpose in life and am working single-mindedly on it. I want a woman who has done the same thing: she has found a career she likes and has successfully worked at it for a bit of time. I am really very tired of girls who have no idea what they're doing in their life.

I've dated beautiful older women before. My best relationship was when I was 19-20 and she was a 28 year old owner of three restaurants. I know a lot of women aren't willing to date a guy much younger than them but I am willing to give it a shot anyway. My favourite 'type' is the energetic, independent, hardworking and ambitious business-style woman.

The problem with mature, successful, hard working women is that they are usually busy and hard to find. They don't seem to be at the same places that other girls go. So where should I meet them?

[TektonikShift]

Speaking from mere experience, I think the best is to go out there and explore people where you're most curious about.
I randomly started attending conventions, conferences, etc. of things that I was interested in (or things I never had an interest in before, but I was curious about!), when I was like 17 years old and met many interesting people, including many mature women... (sometimes even very young, sometimes my own age, but very energic and ambitious, with a career etc.) ...alas, unfortunately I'm not mature enough.

Perhaps you'll be luckier than me

Jokes apart, I think traveling and discovering the world, going to new places in your own city, talking to people, is the best way to get to know new people, including who fits your own preferences in a partner

[TonyToneTone]

Everywhere. Just walk through a classy upscale mall and you will see a million of them.

[MyEyeIsOpen]

I've had good luck online. I had the same sort of problem you're facing, and most of the people I date at least 18 years older than I am. Older women who are successful have the same problem you have: finding a suitable partner.

My question to you is: are you sure you really have anything to offer these women?

[pyrogen]

Originally Posted by Scipio

I'll preface this by saying that I'm a 21 year old male. I think I'm great looking (although looks don't matter much to women), and have got a good head on my shoulders. The big factor is that I seem out of alignment with a lot of girls my age.

Then don't date girls your age. There are plenty of older women out there who like "younger man energy". And looks do matter to women, don't kid yourself. Especially to older women. The guys who are landing attractive, successful older women are not the ones with a big beer gut who don't shower and who are wearing the same dirty shirt three days in a row. Our sexual chemistry becomes more masculine as we approach midlife (just as men's chemistry becomes more feminine later in life).

As for women your age - there's self selection going on. 21 year old women who are in the dating pool, are not on the professional track. They're either on the "party track", the "navel track" (what I call people who are off in a fantasy-oriented, dreamy or metaphysical headspace at 21) or the "mommy track". Most of the overachiever type women tend to put dating on the backburner.

That said, the 21 year old women who ARE really serious (and they DO exist - they marry men like themselves, of their own age or older), are being filtered out of your reality. So perhaps you are not as ready to meet them as you think they are.

I had an issue meeting serious people for all of my 20s. I did not realize I was filtering serious people out of my reality. In my 30s (and I'm now on the "career track", as a late starter) I was on a combination "navel track" and "party track" (there's some overlap in some bohemian circles).

Some people aren't really serious about relationships, they just don't want to get ___ed and dumped the next day. Plenty of people want a boyfriend or girlfriend but don't actually want a life commitment. I really like the "friends with benefits" terminology because it's far more precise language to describe what someone wants. If you're not meeting people who are relationship material, are you sure you're not manifesting that because it's not what YOU want?

[RT Wolf]

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Benjamin Franklin wrote an essay on the advantages on dating older women.

Being mature and successful yourself would also probably help.

[jaamkie]

Originally Posted by TonyToneTone

Everywhere. Just walk through a classy upscale mall and you will see a million of them.

I have to disgree with finding these sort of women at "a classy upscale mall"- if they're hardworking and concerned with success, they're probably not spending all day wasting money in fancy malls (though sure they'll buy the clothes to look the part depending on career). Even when they are shopping, they probably shop intentionally, at a variety of stores depending on the quality required for a particular item. They'll be the type buzzing around with a plan and places to be, not the type ambling, window-shopping, and looking for random conversation.

I think one way to meet these women would be to figure out where they work, and based on that, where they'd be having lunch- casual but healthier places, not McDonalds, not a slow sit-down restaurant- in my area it might be Chipotle, Panera, Potbelly sandwiches. Have lunch there each day exactly at lunchtime, and chat with the women in the (inevitably long) lines. A conversation over lunch ought to give you enough time to make enough of a good impression to merit fitting a date into her busy schedule.

[justforaday]

Originally Posted by Scipio

I'll preface this by saying that I'm a 21 year old male. I think I'm great looking (although looks don't matter much to women), and have got a good head on my shoulders. The big factor is that I seem out of alignment with a lot of girls my age. I've embraced my purpose in life and am working single-mindedly on it. I want a woman who has done the same thing: she has found a career she likes and has successfully worked at it for a bit of time. I am really very tired of girls who have no idea what they're doing in their life.

I've dated beautiful older women before. My best relationship was when I was 19-20 and she was a 28 year old owner of three restaurants. I know a lot of women aren't willing to date a guy much younger than them but I am willing to give it a shot anyway. My favourite 'type' is the energetic, independent, hardworking and ambitious business-style woman.

The problem with mature, successful, hard working women is that they are usually busy and hard to find. They don't seem to be at the same places that other girls go. So where should I meet them?

well i wanna be like that, but i´m on the half-way..im 20, but maybe you should stop looking them.

[TonyToneTone]

Originally Posted by jaamkie

I have to disgree with finding these sort of women at "a classy upscale mall"- if they're hardworking and concerned with success, they're probably not spending all day wasting money in fancy malls (though sure they'll buy the clothes to look the part depending on career). Even when they are shopping, they probably shop intentionally, at a variety of stores depending on the quality required for a particular item. They'll be the type buzzing around with a plan and places to be, not the type ambling, window-shopping, and looking for random conversation.

I think one way to meet these women would be to figure out where they work, and based on that, where they'd be having lunch- casual but healthier places, not McDonalds, not a slow sit-down restaurant- in my area it might be Chipotle, Panera, Potbelly sandwiches. Have lunch there each day exactly at lunchtime, and chat with the women in the (inevitably long) lines. A conversation over lunch ought to give you enough time to make enough of a good impression to merit fitting a date into her busy schedule.

If that's what you believe, that's often what you'll find.

[jaamkie]

Originally Posted by TonyToneTone

If that's what you believe, that's often what you'll find.

giggle... just commenting cos that's how a guy would find me!

[jacki]

hi,
im only 18 my self but im working to be one of those woman. i myself am taken. i can give you suggestions of places you could find me.

library
book store
sites that have buiness or liter type stuff
poetry site/readings
anything to do with writing

also look at what their wearing.
slacks
long sleeves
nice tee/tank, a sweter

goal orianted woman tend to dress for their goal

hope this helps,
jacki

[funchy]

Originally Posted by Scipio

I know a lot of women aren't willing to date a guy much younger than them but I am willing to give it a shot anyway. My favourite 'type' is the energetic, independent, hardworking and ambitious business-style woman.

I don't think older women mind younger men. It can be a lot of fun! You have some assets going for you: physical sexual peak at this age, might be sweet-n-innocent (free of emotional baggage), or a general fresh view of the world.

The simplest answer to give you is to look for them where you'd expect them to be.
For example: If you're looking to meet professional women, join the Chamber of Commerce or other business organizations. The Chamber in my town does a meet-and-greet monthly. Also check into service organizations, professional associations, and the like. Check out seminars and business functions, too.

Unmarried, affluent women may also have some connection to the non-profit world: volunteering, being involved in nonprofit leadership, or attending charity events. Many non-profits do benefit galas or other social gatherings, ideal for mingling and chatting with strangers.

Really busy people may also do online dating, speed dating, or a dating service.

If their career is their passion, the mall won't of much interest to them.


Good luck!

[dwixi]

I seen a great film the other day called How to marry a billionaire

It was about guys that were sick of having there girlfriends leave them for rich successful men so they decided to do it themselves.
It was really funny because they just somehow got into this party in a fancy newyork building and the party was for wealthy people.. I dont know how they managed to get in they just turned up! But thats holiwood for you :L
One of the guys ended up finding a great girl he loved and it turned out she was a billionaire.. even though he thought she was poor.
Check it out I really liked it.

[Scipio]

Well, I've had a date every day for the past few days (including Christmas day!). Most of the girls were actually around my age but had a lot of things I was looking for. All of them had lived or worked abroad at some point in their lives. They are all multilingual--I am in Korea and have poor Korean so everyone is at least bilingual that I date. One that I'm seeing is so committed to her passion that she was at design school all Christmas day.

The problem is that around my age most women are at their input stage (learning, educating themselves) rather than their output stage (being productive). Someone who is productive is inspiring to me and that's what I want, so I am still trying to find more women older than me. I'm still looking and dating, and have taken some of the suggestions here.

I met one on the bus, one at my job, one through a friend, and one on the street. I'm probably going to join a 6AM yoga class near me and see if I meet anyone there--maybe someone who likes to exercise and destress before work.

Most of the activities I do (I am a "professional" Thai boxer, I suppose) have me surrounded exclusively by men. I also study philosophy and the classes are completely full of male students.

[TonyToneTone]

Originally Posted by jaamkie

giggle... just commenting cos that's how a guy would find me!

I knew my method worked!