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Old 12-04-2008, 06:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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...why not check out this kid:

Little ladies' man pens dating primer - Relationships - TODAYshow.com

And here's a book excerpt: Girls 101: A 9-year-old’s dating wisdom - Relationships - TODAYshow.com

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Old 12-04-2008, 08:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I know some people are going to find it cute. I am going to be a wet blanket and disagree. It would be cute if this was a book written by adults for adults about the cute things kids say, but it's not.

I find it very sad. First, we have a 8 yr old child who isn't anywhere near puberty worrying about "hooking up". He wouldn't know what to do with a real female if he got one.

Then American adults wonder why pre-teens are overly obsessed with image and hooking up instead of just being happy? Why do so many early-teen girls have eating disorders? Why to young teens cut themselves? Or why so many teens are sexually active at 13, 14, or 15 yrs old. He's a product of our society which rushes kids to grow up so fast. Why can't he just be an 8 yr old and enjoy being a boy?

And I think my other bone of contention: he did not write this all by himself. Clearly, he did not illustrate it. Some adult (dad? mom?) did this and helped him put his name on it. His parents and teach finds it cute, but I find it fake. (sorry!)

On the other hand, the advice in the book seems better than the silly stuff the self-professed PUAs are giving out.
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Why can't he just be an 8 yr old and enjoy being a boy?
I won't say I necessarily disagree with you on the way society is directing children. However, he doesn't really seem worried or anxious at all. He seems like a normal, intelligent boy who saw an issue his friends were having and went about gathering information to help them. I remember being that age and thinking about all kinds of things, things that didn't come from a movie, tv show, etc but might have shocked some grownups nonetheless. There is the fact that we as a society expose children to too much and then there is the fact that children know and think about a lot more than we give them credit for...all on their own.

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And I think my other bone of contention: he did not write this all by himself. Clearly, he did not illustrate it. Some adult (dad? mom?) did this and helped him put his name on it. His parents and teach finds it cute, but I find it fake. (sorry!)
Well, I do believe he wrote it himself. He chose the topic for a class writing assignment and after the teacher saw it and was impressed it grew from there, eventually being published by HarperCollins. They hired an illustrator. I don't see how that's really fake? Not everyone who's a writer can draw .

It's really no big deal. I did find it cute, but I see your reasons for disagreeing. I posted it more for a laugh because we've had so many back and forths about the seduction community on the forum.
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I watched the video, and I am so enamored with this little kid! He's so adorable I want to put him in my pocket, take him home, and feed him milk and cookies!

I don't believe his advice is sexual in nature. One of the things he talks about is for boys to comb their hair and not wear sweatpants. He even says, if your mom doesn't like it, she's a girl, so other girls probably will not like it either. Too cute! And stuff like, just say hi, be casual, don't act all nervous and let her do the talking. It's good advice. What really makes it cute is that it's an 8 yr old kid that tells you this.

And the "hooking up" I don't think he really knows what that means, he probably thought it meant that you just get together to go out. He talks about a sorta-date (your mom and her mom drop you and girl off at movies, then pick you up after) or going out to dinner without your mom (a real date).

It's all very innocent. He just did his own "in field" studies on the playground. And you know what? When I was 8, I had crushes on boys! And there were boys who had girlfriends, held hands during recess, carried her books to class, etc. We didn't have sex, for goodness sakes!

Aspiring, thanks for posting it! Very delightful!
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I got a kick out of it. The boy has some good advice in there and nice method for getting it.
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Very cute, thanks for sharing!

And I have to disagree with funchy, because I think our society tries to hold people in delayed adolescence instead of allowing them to grow up. In hunter/gatherer societies you grow up at puberty, but in ours there are the milestones of 18, 21, and college graduation... all of which occur significantly after physical maturation.
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God, I can't wait to have kids so I can exploit them for financial gain. I'm just not sure whether my child will teach pickup or a "genius" painter
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at 8 years old I was quite intelligent also..

I also had "boyfriends" as did other kids.. and there was lots of chasing and kissing boys in the playground...

I was changing nappies at 8 and babysitting two babies by 10. I had the mental capacity and maturity to handle it... I was also well read, and extremely well written at that age.


Don't forget... it's not too far back in human existance that children were working in factories at this age..

" The industrial revolution had resulted in many children being employed in large factories. They were often responsible for operating dangerous machinery. Children who worked in factories suffered a hard life. The young girls who worked in the match factories run by Bryant and May endured long hours and poor pay. They worked with dangerous materials such as phosphorous that could cause a disease known as 'phossy jaw' that rotted their lower jaw.

Children started working in factories on the average between the ages of nine and twelve" (borrowed from: Children of The 1800's )


There are always exceptions to rules... perhaps his parents speak openly about relationships and other issues with him.
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