Dating While Raw

[danas]

I have been 2.5 months raw, and I feel really good.
But its scaring the guys away!
None of the guys I mention here were blind dates, they all saw me first and asked for my number, or asked friends for my #.
Also Ill add that Im the only raw foodist I know here, although organic food is now a big hit here now, and the average person doesnt eat much junk food.

example 1:
first date. At first its great, mutual attraction, we laugh a lot. He makes it clear that he's looking for someone serious, tells me Im beautiful etc.. till I mention that Im raw (he wanted me to order some food). Well, he did not like this, "how can you socialize? its bad for you! what will you feed your kids? lettuce??" etc...
All this while eating fish and fries at 10 pm, downing 2 pints of beer and smoking 15 cigarettes.
never saw him again. (he canceled our 2nd date)

Next guy
We meet for a coffee, great deep conversations & attraction etc but he dissapears. Yesterday, a month later he calls and apologizes. I tell him Im on my way to dinner at friends, he says but you are raw- so not much for you to eat. I asked him if thats wha scared him off he says- well it is pretty alarming and very extreme. I try to explain that I thought so too once, but its quite easy and i feel so good...

example 3:
Dated someone the other day, he wanted to go for lunch. It was fun, I had salad and tahini, but again he actually said: You're perfect except this raw food thing- thats extreme and too hardcore. He still wanted to see me, but I was busy and he never tried again.

Ill add that none of these 3 men felt so "right" to me for other reasons- (Maybe they felt that, but I really dont think I showed it), but I was happy to meet them again and give it another chance, but still we never made it to date 2.

If you ask most guys here, what they are looking for in a woman, one of the things most guys will say is that she's a good cook. And Im not talking about shauvanistic guys.
Even my best male friend just told me how hes in love and in the same breath, what an amazing cook she is.

So, From what Ive been noticing, guys see this raw foodism, as extreme- unbalanced behavior- and despite their physical and intellectual attraction to me, would rather not get involved with such a woman.

Im optimistic, I dont feel I lost the man of my life due to this, but still Im surprised how it really scares them off.

[Angela]

I'm not surprised. It sounds like eating raw is helping you tune into your clear intuition (although you are still fighting with your clear intuition somewhat).

You would have gone out with these guys again who you felt were not right for you, except for the raw thing took care of that time and energy wasting mistake for you. It's like having a really cool bodyguard who is looking out for only your best interests, even when you can't see your own best interests (like that little kid and the Terminator. )

It's not so unusual, really. For instance, if I found out on a date that he was a smoker and he had no intention to quit, I would not go on a second date with the guy -- I'd recognize our values are completely incompatible for partnership. Earlier in my life, non-smokers were much more rare, like raw foodists. But more and more people have come around. I think maybe it's time for you to actively and dynamically seek out people with your same values (male and female, raw and other consciousness-wise).

I think you are being called to play a bigger game. Congratulations!

[Claradonna]

Yes, when your consciousness and lifestyle are evolved, you fall out of resonance with those who are still living conventionally.
In 10 years, vegetarianism could very easily be the norm, and veganism and raw foodism following that. Humans will definitely move forward (or return to natural state, if you see it that way).

That means for now that you need to find the people who are in your consciousness level, that also see and live clearly, and with which you are on the same wavelength, which means not just the food they eat, but the same energy and consciosness level that expands to all other areas of their lives.

[seo1]

Originally Posted by Claradonna

Yes, when your consciousness and lifestyle are evolved, you fall out of resonance with those who are still living conventionally.
In 10 years, vegetarianism could very easily be the norm, and veganism and raw foodism following that. Humans will definitely move forward (or return to natural state, if you see it that way).

That means for now that you need to find the people who are in your consciousness level, that also see and live clearly, and with which you are on the same wavelength, which means not just the food they eat, but the same energy and consciosness level that expands to all other areas of their lives.

+1

It's a bit tougher though...

Since this seems to be weeding out enough guys you should find some very interesting ones who aren't driven away by your raw foodist lifestyle. It seems like a great tool to me.

Do you find that you are getting enough nutrition from this raw diet?

What does a basic day of eating consist of for you?

The reason I ask is because I know that eating well makes you feel good but am wondering if this sort of diet would fulfill my nutirtional needs as an active young male.

[Savage]

Why not date raw people? If I were dating, I'd pre-qualify people based on their diet first to make sure we'd be compatible. I wouldn't want to date someone who wasn't at least vegan. Otherwise we'd be too incompatible. A long-term relationship would just be a dead end.

Even when making new friends, I favor vegan and raw people. They're so juicy, fun to be around, and mentally sharp. Most people who eat the Standard American Diet seem too sleepy, depressed, or uptight, relatively speaking.

Why would you want a guy who's so incompatible with you? This sounds like a self-esteem issue to me. I certainly wouldn't want to date a smoker/drinker. Don't you think you deserve a guy with compatible values?

[seeker5]

Even though I am not a raw vegan myself (yet) I find myself much more attracted to a raw vegan girl then a SAD girl who also drinks. It's actually a turn-on for me to know a girl cares so incredibly much for her health and for her principles, that she took the route to go the raw vegan diet route.

If you ask most guys here, what they are looking for in a woman, one of the things most guys will say is that she's a good cook. And Im not talking about shauvanistic guys.
Even my best male friend just told me how hes in love and in the same breath, what an amazing cook she is.

Hah! When I meet a raw vegan girl, at some point I think "oh cool, she knows how to make raw vegan meals!"

[striving4peace]

I'd recomend looking in groups where raw foodists would congregate - facebook or other social networking site groups around raw foodism (this forum maybe? :P )

What would other raw foodists do? They must also want to have other similar types to hang out with at least... I tried being raw for a month and other than that I was already (and am back to being) vegetarian. The girl I've just started seeing is already asking if there's any hopes of converting me back to eating meat, but truth is I don't care hanging out with carnivorous people - almost all my flesh-eating friends force me to places like KFC and devour buckets as I nibble on my corn on the cob. Its kinda obvious on whether hanging out with them raises my conciousness. And meeting other vegetarians, vegans or raw foodists and going to places that cater to our kind of food is an absolute delight! But then I've learnt that not all people who are vegetarian / a raw foodist are necessarily fun and conscious either.

[danas]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

Why not date raw people? If I were dating, I'd pre-qualify people based on their diet first to make sure we'd be compatible. I wouldn't want to date someone who wasn't at least vegan. Otherwise we'd be too incompatible. A long-term relationship would just be a dead end.

Even when making new friends, I favor vegan and raw people. They're so juicy, fun to be around, and mentally sharp. Most people who eat the Standard American Diet seem too sleepy, depressed, or uptight, relatively speaking.

Why would you want a guy who's so incompatible with you? This sounds like a self-esteem issue to me. I certainly wouldn't want to date a smoker/drinker. Don't you think you deserve a guy with compatible values?

This may sound odd, but being raw, vegan or vegetarian are my top priorities of what I want in a man. (Interestingly my sudden deep love for animals started after becoming raw).
Although open mindedness is.

All the information I get on raw food is online (and it started here). Ive never met a real life 3 dimentional raw foodist, b/c it is very rare here.
I did go to a talk about a healthy vegan diet, and only women showed up.
(mind you no one I know would dare enter a fast food chain either).
and I need to make a confession here : I have the odd cigarette once in a while too

Besides personal growth, and having high morals, Its more important for me, for instance, that he share my passion for the arts and my intellectual world.
This is what I do, this is my passion, its they way I express my truth and my dialoge with the world. And I am very career driven in this area (which is highly competitive).
I dont think I could be with someone who spent 30+ years in this world without an interest in that. It just wouldnt be compatable for me.
Yes I know, there arent many intellectuals who are into spirituality, and health. but I dont need many, one will do.
I actually dated some guys whom were very much into spirituality and personal development, but it ended cause they couldnt care less for culture, the fact that they couldnt share my intellectual world too was a total deal breaker.
So yes, I know, Im pretty complex in my desires, (but at least now Im fit)

Dont get me wrong, I didnt want any of these disapearing guys. If I did I wouldve called them myself. I am glad they saved my time.
Just that these reactions were very surprising to me and I am too close to it myself to be objective.

The thing is, its not that they minded so much what I ate, but eating raw was an indication for them that I have an extreme personality and therefor unbalanced.
One guy even asked me suspitiously how come you look so good and are still single? then when I later told him that I was raw, he said Aha! You so, have an extreme personality. Like finally his microscope found the problem. haha

[danas]

Originally Posted by striving4peace

But then I've learnt that not all people who are vegetarian / a raw foodist are necessarily fun and conscious either.

I agree

[danas]

Originally Posted by seeker5

Even though I am not a raw vegan myself (yet) I find myself much more attracted to a raw vegan girl then a SAD girl who also drinks. It's actually a turn-on for me to know a girl cares so incredibly much for her health and for her principles, that she took the route to go the raw vegan diet route.

Hah! When I meet a raw vegan girl, at some point I think "oh cool, she knows how to make raw vegan meals!"

Thanks. That's encouraging

[danas]

Originally Posted by Angela

I'm not surprised. It sounds like eating raw is helping you tune into your clear intuition (although you are still fighting with your clear intuition somewhat).

You would have gone out with these guys again who you felt were not right for you, except for the raw thing took care of that time and energy wasting mistake for you. It's like having a really cool bodyguard who is looking out for only your best interests, even when you can't see your own best interests (like that little kid and the Terminator. )
.

I think you are being called to play a bigger game. Congratulations!

Yes Angela. You are right. bigger game I am ready.
But this kind of scares me. Ive always been attracted to the rebelious types,
I once knew a girl that was so strict on all her health rules, never having a sip of wine, she would call in advance to ask if anyone would be smoking at a party, cause if so she wouldnt come etc... I like people who are not that strict with themselves, a bit more cool and fun but still health conscious .

[danas]

Originally Posted by seo1

+1

Do you find that you are getting enough nutrition from this raw diet?

What does a basic day of eating consist of for you?

Yes of course you can read all about in steves blogs. Thats whom I learnt from.
Today I had a green smoothie (banana+spinach),
3 apples, some pinenuts, and a large salad with greens, cucumbers tomatoes, & kholorabi, with raw humus as a sause ( zucchini, tahini, sesame seeds and garlic which I heard on the rawkathon today). Im not hungry and wont eat more today,

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by danas

Ive always been attracted to the rebelious types,

Being a raw foodist is about as rebellious as it gets. Think about it..

[Trezker]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

Being a raw foodist is about as rebellious as it gets. Think about it..

What is extreme changes fast. Anything that's not mainstream is more or less extreme. I don't think I could ever live with a person that enjoys popular music. I've been around mainstream people too much already, partying with them is soo boring, it's like they were born with no soul.

They say everyone is unique, but the mainstream people are working pretty hard at disproving that.

[ssandra]

If you want to get just past the first date without getting into the raw thing you could just say that you are on a diet?
Most guys I know will accept that for any weird thing a girl does (and usually it gets you some complements like "you don't need a diet!").

After you figure out you connect with this person you can always say that it is a diet that you plan to stay on for the rest of your life.. I would say somewhere between date 3 and 5?

I do not agree with just seeking out other raw or vegan persons. Who is not to say that you can connect with someone who eats at MacTrash every day? That doesn't make them a bad person!!

The connection should be there, and that has more to do with their open-mindedness then with what they eat in my opinion.

And maybe (if the chemistry is right) later in your life he will become vegan or raw as well?

[danas]

Originally Posted by Trezker

What is extreme changes fast. Anything that's not mainstream is more or less extreme. I don't think I could ever live with a person that enjoys popular music. I've been around mainstream people too much already, partying with them is soo boring, it's like they were born with no soul.

They say everyone is unique, but the mainstream people are working pretty hard at disproving that.

Yes. That makes sense.
I guess you and Dan are right. I like independent thinkers!
Thats what I love about Steves blog too. He's an independent thinker!

And I guess what I didn’t like about the "spiritual" guys I dated was that they were just quoting all the clichés, which is why I could no longer continue the conversation with them. Because "they" weren’t the ones talking. And this is why I’ve always been attracted to the artists/intellectuals types, because in this field of work, you always have to be innovative. You always want to show the world a new unexpected angle of reality. You aim to be an individual.

So if in my 20s I went for the real trouble making bad guys, now in my 30s I want my man to be a conscious (in body and mind) kind of rebel.
meaning a highly conscious, in body and in and mind, curious independent thinker.(and hopefully one that shares a few of my passions)
Thanks for helping me clearify my desire.

[danas]

Originally Posted by ssandra

If you want to get just past the first date without getting into the raw thing you could just say that you are on a diet?
Most guys I know will accept that for any weird thing a girl does (and usually it gets you some complements like "you don't need a diet!").

After you figure out you connect with this person you can always say that it is a diet that you plan to stay on for the rest of your life.. I would say somewhere between date 3 and 5?

I did tell them I was just trying this out for 30 days (a long 30 days), I wouldnt havent mentioned it if they didnt keep asking me to why I dont have a bit of their food. Also I dont know if its for life, Ill probably be 70% raw, when I have kids to feed.

Originally Posted by ssandra

And maybe (if the chemistry is right) later in your life he will become vegan or raw as well?

I totally agree.
My dad met his 2nd wife, on date 5 he told her sorry I cant see you anymore b/c you smoke. The next day, after 20 years of heavy smoking she went cold turkey and hasnt touched a cigarette until this day. They are still very happily married.
And I do not care if hes raw. I do want him to be health concious though.
Ive only been raw for 75 days. before that I was a cooked meat eater. I did it for the health benifits, not so much for the ideology.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by danas

I once knew a girl that was so strict on all her health rules, never having a sip of wine, she would call in advance to ask if anyone would be smoking at a party, cause if so she wouldnt come etc... I like people who are not that strict with themselves, a bit more cool and fun but still health conscious .

I was once phoned by a woman who asked if there would be balloons at a birthday party, because if so, she wouldn't be able to come because of her balloon phobia.

Balloons. Birthday party. {{{{sigh}}}}

Those rebellious types you attract? I think they are mirrors of the part of you that is rebellious. I think when you are fully committed to a path, you will attract and be attracted to people who are walking in the same direction. That's what I think.

[danas]

Originally Posted by Angela

Those rebellious types you attract? I think they are mirrors of the part of you that is rebellious. I think when you are fully committed to a path, you will attract and be attracted to people who are walking in the same direction. That's what I think.

Maybe, but as I concluded above, this rebellion can be someone who is simply not a mainstream non-thinker.
But yes, I still have a long way to go, and I'm not that strict on myself like others may be. The "you must no do this" method never works on me.
I only change if I really want to.
The first month I often drank capuccinos (totally unraw and unhealthy),I just let myself. Till I said OK. no more. so I stopped.
Dont know how long Ill stay raw, but I will stay vegan though.

But on all these dates, while the guys were downing their beers, I always stuck to my mineral water. So I guess I am commited after all.
But i do have to commit to more to myself and my true desires. and yes, you are right, I have yet to go "all the way" in that sense.

[MasterD]

This is SO common, I believe.

People not on the path of growth and who down 10 beers 2 or 3 nights a week aren't compatible with raw vegans; it's that simple; so don't date them :-).

Right now, as a male raw vegan I am shifting my perspective away from wanting to date. I first want to graduate for my master's degree, set up my life exactly how I want it and then come from a strong base to find the right woman that matches my values. Right now I am not even living my own values, so it's even harder to find a compatible woman. I think you have the same issue; you are raw, but the rest of your life hasn't catched up yet. Just stick to it for a while, let the rest catch up and you will know what kind of guy you want in your life. That's when you want to start dating again (though this is good, because you become aware of what you don't want).

Just be aware of the path you are on; it is going to have much more implications than you thought it would have.

[metamorph]

I do not think your diet is necessarily any higher than his downing beer after beer on a date. It is just a concept, which at this moment of your life gives you satisfaction, or makes you get emotionally high from. Why not!
I think your date was really a test of tolerance for both of you. You were prepared to go on a second date with him in spite of his obvious reservations towards your way of dieting. While with his intolerance he weeded himself out of the game. Fair enough! So it our tolerance or lack thereof that determines the size of our dating pool. If you can only accept fellow raw foodies you will likely limit your dating pool quite a lot, because I believe there will be guys out there who are non-raw, but tolerant towards your diet. And if you do, you will also limit your degree of personal freedom and openness. I would have no problems with your diet, as long as you can accept my eating a couple of steaks while I am dating you.

As to my own intolerance, I am like Angela: if she smokes, she is out. But luckily these days by dating pool is increasing

[danas]

I agree, it has to do with tolorence. I am looking for an opened minded person. Whoever does not accept the fact that Im eating raw, is probably not very open minded.
OK, Someone who drinks & smokes a lot is probably not for me either.
But if he smokes occastionally, and has a glass of wine once in a while, and eats some chicken soup, this is not whats gonna stop me getting involved with them, if there are other qualities there.

I just find it very narrow to not see someone because they eat meat. I am not too bothered what they eat. But if on date 1 they are already trying to change me and disaproving my healthy choices, that's a red flag.
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From past experience I can make a guy change his diet once we are in a relationship, without even intending to.
Besides I know some amazing spiritual wise joyful people who eat meat. Everyone should do whats good for them. Raw food is good for me, so I eat raw, but I dont look down on whoever doesn't.

And about the smoking- My dad- the biggest anti smoker on the planet, would not be with his wife now, whom he is still madly in love with after 15 years, because she smoked when they met. On their 5th date she quit cold turkey cause my dad couldnt stand it anymore. By then they were close enough that she had a reason to quit.
If he said "sorry I dont date smokers" he wouldn't have given their love a chance.
I am much more interested in the persons heart and mind rather than their habits.
My friend who has now gone raw, cooks meat for her man every night while she eats her salad. They are the most harmonious couple I know.

I am taking the advice Erin wrote in her blog to narrow the list down to 4 qualitys you wish for in a mate. Raw foodist is not in my top four.

[danas]

Originally Posted by MasterD

This is SO common, I believe.

People not on the path of growth and who down 10 beers 2 or 3 nights a week aren't compatible with raw vegans; it's that simple; so don't date them :-).

Right now, as a male raw vegan I am shifting my perspective away from wanting to date. I first want to graduate for my master's degree, set up my life exactly how I want it and then come from a strong base to find the right woman that matches my values. Right now I am not even living my own values, so it's even harder to find a compatible woman. I think you have the same issue; you are raw, but the rest of your life hasn't catched up yet. Just stick to it for a while, let the rest catch up and you will know what kind of guy you want in your life. That's when you want to start dating again (though this is good, because you become aware of what you don't want).

Just be aware of the path you are on; it is going to have much more implications than you thought it would have.

Personally, my top values are not my diet.
Honesty, Kindness, Faith, Positive thinking are. The raw diet helps me live up to these values, yes, but it is not one of my top values. its just a tool helping me on my path, but it is not the destination.

[aelle]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

Why not date raw people? If I were dating, I'd pre-qualify people based on their diet first to make sure we'd be compatible. I wouldn't want to date someone who wasn't at least vegan. Otherwise we'd be too incompatible. A long-term relationship would just be a dead end.

Even when making new friends, I favor vegan and raw people. They're so juicy, fun to be around, and mentally sharp. Most people who eat the Standard American Diet seem too sleepy, depressed, or uptight, relatively speaking.

I don't necessarily agree. The first meal I shared with my boyfriend, he ordered a plate of seafood while I had a big salad. He thought I was on a diet, I explained that I was a vegetarian treansitionning to veganism. He thought that was extreme, odd and something he'd never do, but admirable. 6 months later, he was giving up animal products too.
Had I rejected him because he wasn't vegan, he would probably still carry misconceptions about this lifestyle, and I would have missed discovering and partially adopting his own approach of how to care for humanity and for the environment.

Being in a relationship is as much, if not more, about what you can bring as what you can receive. People can have values close to yours, but not have yet found a lifestyle that resonates with them, or they can express them through actions that are different from yours. This is when lifestyles an experiences are different that both partners have an opportunity to grow together.

[funchy]

Suggestion: don't tell them! I've had friends not know I was vegetarian, even know we went out to eat together many times. Unless you make it into a big deal, it really isn't a big deal. I even did a short trial of raw-vegan, went out with friends, and nobody was weirded out (probably didn't even know it was "raw diet"). If someone feels uncomfortable or guilty for eating a big greasy food in front of you, make them feel better by excusing yourself, eg. "I had a huge lunch".

When making plans to go out, instead of being exclusionary ("I can only eat at Salads-R-Us") make it more of an inclusionary thing ("I'll eat most anywhere"). Almost every restaurant offers salads, a salad bar, or something you can make do with. I am the one with the ununsual eating habits, so it's up to me to find something accommodating no matter where we go.

Eating raw or vegan or vegetarian is a personal belief. You wouldn't talk about a deep religious or political belief on a first or second date (at least not unless you're sure he already has that belief), would you? Getting to slowly know the personal beliefs is a slow process which happens over time as the dating gets more serious. If he freaks out later as he realizes you choose not to eat what he does, that says something about HIS flaws. Normal people don't break up with someone because that person won't eat apples or won't eat walnuts... so why break up with someone if they won't eat meats?

[danas]

OK- Ive come for more dating advice:
I joined the local vegan society on facebook and a very nice guy there has been writing to me (funny cause Im not listed as single).

He now has offered that we go eat vegetarian sushi to celebrate his birthday...

So what do I do now without scaring him off?

1) go with him and eat a cucumber salad (and explain why if asked)

2) tell him I dont like sushi (he already asked me if I like sushi and I said I do- because I really do) and suggest we go somewhere else.

3)Tell him Im a raw foodist
which I prefer not to because I want to meet him first before I start explaining this.

I think there are about 3 raw foodist in the country. Its seen as extreme,
and is very uncommon. Even though there are quite a few vegans.

I think I know the answer but Id love to hear your advice...
Thank you!

[Rose of Cairo]

Originally Posted by funchy

You wouldn't talk about a deep religious or political belief on a first or second date (at least not unless you're sure he already has that belief), would you?

Why not? Of course I would. Discovering other people's deep religious or political (or any other kind of personal) beliefs and core values and talking about them is one of the most interesting and fun things to do. I definitely would prefer talking about what truly matters than about some other unimportant stuff. Especially on the first few dates, that's when you check if you're on the same wavelength.

Getting to slowly know the personal beliefs is a slow process which happens over time as the dating gets more serious.

Why does it have to be slow? You date him to get to know him, don't you? So why do you need to get serious before opening up?

Originally Posted by danas

3)Tell him Im a raw foodist
which I prefer not to because I want to meet him first before I start explaining this.

Why?

If he refuses to meet you because of that, this means he listened to a bunch of assumptions and stereotypes he had in his head about "extreme" rawfoodists and wasn't curious enough about you to meet you. I'd say: his loss, not yours!

I don't really understand your fear to scare others away with your raw food. You don't have to say it in a way that appears fanatical. You just eat raw food, so what? I don't introduce myself with "Hi! I'm Rose, and I'm a raw foodist!" of course, but when the topic of food comes up (like when it comes to go eat together) I just say what is, and nobody ever reacts badly. Stand by what you are.

[bluemoon]

Danas- Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there veggie spring rolls and seaweed salad and things like that that would be compatible with your diet? Maybe you could call the restaurant in advance or get a menu online or something?

I really think that as a vegan, he would be understanding of your un-mainstream diet! Veganism is still pretty "rebellious" to people who eat the SAD.

And as for your previous dates- it sounds like they were pretty judgmental, aside from having unhealthy lifestyles. Although I'm not even vegetarian (yet, thinking about it), one of my closest friends in college was vegan and I was really interested in why she did it. Plus we got to go to some really yummy, cool restaurants. If people are judgmental about how you live your life, maybe THAT'S a sign of incompatibility (not just that they have different lifestyles).

[danas]

Thanks for your replys

Originally Posted by bluemoon

Danas- Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there veggie spring rolls and seaweed salad and things like that that would be compatible with your diet? Maybe you could call the restaurant in advance or get a menu online or something?
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Spring rolls are fried mostly, but sure I could find something though it would seem weird cause why go for sushi then

Most vegans are vegans for idealogical reasons. Not for health reasons, so it seems just as extreme to them.

Rose-

I have no problem telling people I meet in real life. They already know me a bit and if we date that means they also liked me enough to ask me out.

I dont hide my raw foodism, and all my friends always make special food for me when they invite me round, or make sure I have something to eat when eating out.
But from my experience people online, especially if they passed a certain age and are looking for something serious, dont want to waste their time, and they usually make sure they meet only someone who seems very compatable. I can understand that, dating is very time consuming.
At the moment there are more guys who have asked me out then I have time to meet.
So only if it feels really right (and im not talking about looks)
Ill make time to meet them.

I find younger guys, lets say till mid 30s, dont mind this as much and are more opened to meeting new people for the sake of it if they find them attractive without thinking so much. So when Ive met guy in this age group they were always facinated by my diet. Wheras older guys find it shocking at first.

But maybe you are right and I should just say- listen I dont mind going for sushi but take in mind that I dont eat fish, rice, or anything cooked for that matter, and leave it at that.
In hope that this wont set off all the red lights in his head

Originally Posted by bluemoon

If people are judgmental about how you live your life, maybe THAT'S a sign of incompatibility (not just that they have different lifestyles).

definately!

Its funny cause Im in touch with another online vegan guy, who asked me how vegan I am, and I simply told him I was raw. - he was intriged (we plan to meet) and wanted to know all the details. Especially cause he wrote that his being vegan has damaged his health and made him gain weight.

But mr. Sushi, hasn't asked about this and are mail exchanges have been short and light, so thats also why Im hesitant...

how did things get so complicated?

[funchy]

Originally Posted by danas

OK- Ive come for more dating advice:
I joined the local vegan society on facebook and a very nice guy there has been writing to me (funny cause Im not listed as single).

He now has offered that we go eat vegetarian sushi to celebrate his birthday...

So what do I do now...

Go with him, order the veg sushi, and call it a compromise. Yes, it's not 100% raw but it's pretty close to it. It shouldn't hurt you to do it once.

If it was me, I feel like it's his birthday and he deserves to get what he asks for on his b-day.