I wanna sell my soul to the Devil

[raphnix]

I think you might regret it when he comes to collect your soul.

[forynav]

Originally Posted by Angela

Is that a "but" I hear in there? Like, I know you're right, but I'm just not willing to do that right now? Of course it's fine if you're not; I was just asking/suggesting. I think the important thing is to find some kind of action that you are WILLING to take, that will take you towards what you want, if even just a little bit. Asking out 3 girls might be too much, but maybe there is something you can think of that would have you feeling a little better, that would launch you even in a small way towards what you really want? What you REALLY want, I mean, underneath your desire for this particular girl -- is it passion, companionship, love, etc..... whatever it is, she is not the only source of it.

So true, *sigh*.

You see, I understand on an intellectual level, that I need to move on. I know she is not the only girl in the world, and funnily I can see she is not even the ideal girl for me. Heck, I plainly see this as just an ego-driven response.

What I'm not able to do however, is to cope with it on an emotional level. I regress into despair and self-pity and then, the next moment I perk myself up and suddenly find an odd optimism. This keeps see-sawing.

I understand, that I'm coming from a place of scarcity and it is hugely unattractive to women. I always tell myself whenever I'm setting goals, to pursue it from a place of happiness.

Even with all this analysis, emotional fulfillment is very elusive for me.

I'm very very grateful for your understanding replies. It helps a lot to have someone care enough to reply.

Originally Posted by JorgeHTQH

chances are, he may already have a place reserved for you in hell... so if i were you i would do a 180 degree turn and head towards the opposite way as fast as i can... if you feel that you have hit rock bottom then there's only one way to go now and thats up..

Originally Posted by raphnix

I think you might regret it when he comes to collect your soul.

I know, I know. Sometimes, I like to think, I only mean "Devil", as a metaphor. But, even as I do that, some part of myself is actually pushing the deal.

[marinik]

It will pass, time does wonders but when you are that young it seems like it is just a bs from old people! I have 4 grown kids gone through all you are going through now. I told them it would pass and that new wonderful people to love are just around the corner but they didn’t believe me until it happened to them. So be smarter (and my kids are really smart!!) and trust us – the old folk . Let go. The moment you are not seeking, then it will come. New beautiful love. Just let go of the clinginess and neediness of your emotional state now. And you can choose emotions. It just takes practice. Talk to people over 30, 40 and 50 you love trust and admire. Listen and you will hear the same. So give it a try… there is no logic that we re all lying and conspiring against the you

[oBakasan]

I wanna sell my soul to the Devil

I'll take it.

What's the price? Pleasure? Happyness? A Sense of Belonging?

Or judging from your posts, Women?

Got all of that right here. Come Serve me and All of it will be Yours.

[forynav]

Originally Posted by oBakasan

I'll take it.

What's the price? Pleasure? Happyness? A Sense of Belonging?

Or judging from your posts, Women?

Got all of that right here. Come Serve me and All of it will be Yours.

You know where to find me. Come get it.

[Plato]

Have you considered selling it on ebay? You never know what nutters might give you money!

[oBakasan]

You know where to find me. Come get it.

I find it amusing that when you received an actual offer for "Happyness, Pleasure and a Sense of Belonging" your only reply for them was to "Come find me".

I will say no more, but you decide what that says about yourself.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by forynav

What is this stupidity that I HAVE to have something that I can't. Why can't I let this girl go?

I have tried everything. Looking at this like a good thing, playing it out as if it was the kick in the butt I needed to improve my life. I even did something I did not want to. Associate hatred with her and tried to magnify her weaknesses and insecurities. That seemed to work and then failed. Then I appreciated my own life, in a bid for self-sufficiency as it is now and express gratitude for everything I have.

The bad thing about obsession is that it tends to stray from the reality of the situation. The good thing about obsession is that it can highlight traits we want in our lives.

Make a list of all the characteristics of this girl you admire most, i.e.:
1. Beauty
2. Confidence
3. Focus
4. Wit

Then do everything you can to envelope those traits in your life, and see if it doesn't help calm your desire.

Give it a try.

[forynav]

Originally Posted by Boreas

The bad thing about obsession is that it tends to stray from the reality of the situation. The good thing about obsession is that it can highlight traits we want in our lives.

Make a list of all the characteristics of this girl you admire most, i.e.:
1. Beauty
2. Confidence
3. Focus
4. Wit

Then do everything you can to envelope those traits in your life, and see if it doesn't help calm your desire.

Give it a try.

Thanks! That's something very practical I can work at.

[forynav]

Originally Posted by oBakasan

I find it amusing that when you received an actual offer for "Happyness, Pleasure and a Sense of Belonging" your only reply for them was to "Come find me".

I will say no more, but you decide what that says about yourself.

Oh! it was a test?

I thought you were roleplaying the Devil...

[raphnix]

Originally Posted by forynav

I know, I know. Sometimes, I like to think, I only mean "Devil", as a metaphor. But, even as I do that, some part of myself is actually pushing the deal.

Yeah. Temptation of abundance, "stuff-itis" and material security is really hard to repent. If selling souls to the devil for these exist, or have existed, I think 75% or more of human souls are now being collected by the devil.

[NightSpirit]

Originally Posted by mezameo

I would be really curious your take on HOW you have been able to deal with past anger and prevent it from sabotaging the present. I struggle with this daily and find meditation actually does not release anger for me, nor does yoga for that matter. It just dulls it a bit but it is still always there under the surface.

I hope I didn't make it sound like it was easy. There were many times I felt trapped in my past and often had suicidal thoughts. Dying seemed like it would have been easier than working through it. The thought of risking more pain by attempting to love again was overwhelming. My kids and my mom kept me going during these times.

My mom clipped an article out of the newspaper about a woman who had been in similar situation and felt like I did. She wrote about her despair after her divorce and how her own mom kept telling her not to give up, that God had a plan to restore her peace. And that's what happened. She later remarried and had a very good second marriage.

I experienced the love and acceptance of Christ for myself at around 28 and that made me willing to forgive because I had been forgiven. But it was still a process where I gradually received more light and changed my thinking as a result. This is the way it happened for me.

Concerning the suicidal despair, I read another story about a man who felt the same despair as I did and was also fighting depression, trying not to kill himself. One day he saw a man carrying a broken antique chair to the dumpster. He loved antiques and hated to see that happen. He thought he could restore the chair so he stopped the man and asked him, "If you don't want that anymore, will you give it to me?" Since it was trash to the other man, he said yes.

Right at that time, he said God spoke to him and said, "If you don't want your life anymore, instead of throwing it away, may I have it?" So he gave what was left of the life he didn't want anymore to God and God restored it. This man's story was one of the influences for me to later give my life to God since I was also tired of living it.

Some time after I accepted Christ, I still had some pain and resentment left and as I was talking to one of my uncles about it, he asked me, "How long are you going to let that man live rent free in your head?"

This was in the late '80's and he was into AA, so the phrase may have came from there. Like they teach in AA, our resentments harm us. I began to see that I had the control, the final say over what kind a person I wanted to be. By allowing the past to consume my attention, it was like I was still there in a way. I was the one still allowing what someone else did to control how I felt. Trying to hold someone accountable, punishing them in my own mind, kept me a prisoner to the past. Freeing them set me free too, from being their jailer.

We call it personal responsibility or deliberate thought now but the ideas have been around forever. Jesus said the merciful will obtain mercy and that we will become what we do. What Jesus asked us to do, to pray for the person, ask God to release them from anything they may have done to us and then ask Him to bless them with love and peace in their life, really does help us forgive. If you are not ready to pray or don't believe in God, start where you are and just try to send them thoughts of peace and love. Even if you are not feeling it, you will reap what you are sending out. Thoughts of love and peace will fill your own mind and your feelings will begin to follow your thoughts.

Victor Frankl, a well-known Jewish doctor who was sentence to a Nazi camp, wrote a book after he was rescued called "Man's Search for Meaning." In it, he said, "The one thing you can’t take away from me is the way I choose to respond to what you do to me. The last of one’s freedoms is to choose ones attitude in any given circumstance.”

And Eleanor Roosevelt (whose own husband died while on vacation with his mistress) was a great advocate of personal civil rights. She said, "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." I took her meaning further and realized no one can make me feel anything, hate or love, that I don't allow myself, or agree in some way, to feel.

I had the examples in my life of some people in their old age that were still angry and bitter about things that happened years ago. Some about the major things, like adultery, and some about the minor stuff, like a deal over a silly sofa or even a borrowed cake pan. I didn't want to be that way, a product of painful events. I decided not to give the power to create "me" over to the whims of someone else.

What my ex's did, they did to themselves because they lost the opportunity to go through life with me, to learn and grow with me, and to be loved by me. And in a way, all the bad things they did God used for my good, to teach me to take control of my thoughts and my spirit and to try to be more like Him, loving and merciful.

With your permission, I will pray that the joy and hope you had before these things happened be restored, that you will be able to cherish the good memories and to disempower the painful memories of the past from affecting your present peace. You will be wiser and stronger and more open to life because you have gone through some stuff and found you are still you and still love who you are.

[TheChristian]

Originally Posted by forynav

I'm at the point where I don't care anymore. I tried to move on and did move on (from being rejected). But, now everything is echoing back. All the ghosts are rising back.

I'm tired. Empathy is a curse. I don't want it. I want to be selfish.

I wanna sell my soul to the Devil. Problem is, I don't have his number.

Ah, there it is again, my attempts to laugh it off. But, I'm only deluding myself. I really have hit the bottom. I'm so lonely and lost and pathetic.

And please dont say to love myself first to find love. I do. Very much so. I love how creative I am, I love how funny I am (absolutely lifts me to crack others up), I love how honest I am, I love my capacity to forgive, I love my altruism (whenever I ask or pray, like for eg. "Let everyone do well on this exam, including me"). I love myself and sometimes feel pity for those who don't know me. Now I'm getting snobbish

Anyways, I'm tired of it all. I have hit rock bottom. I am really happy for all the people for whom things are going right. But I don't want to be. For once, I want to be happy for myself.

Does this make any sense?

You don't want to sell your soul. Trust me. 300 years of youthful life sounds great, ive actually been in your position and I was considering sellin my soul so I could see what it was like to be popular, loved, rich, famous, etc. but I figured, if God wanted us to be perfect, why wouldn't he make us all that way? Burning in Hell forever is not worth any price, even if it makes you happy for years. I have a purpose in life, and I plan on living my life for 70-80 more years. (I'm only 15 now) I might be young but I have the knowledge that I need to know that there is no bigger mistake than selling YOUR soul to Satan. But, it is your choice.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by TheChristian

You don't want to sell your soul. Trust me. 300 years of youthful life sounds great, ive actually been in your position and I was considering sellin my soul so I could see what it was like to be popular, loved, rich, famous, etc. but I figured, if God wanted us to be perfect, why wouldn't he make us all that way? Burning in Hell forever is not worth any price, even if it makes you happy for years. I have a purpose in life, and I plan on living my life for 70-80 more years. (I'm only 15 now) I might be young but I have the knowledge that I need to know that there is no bigger mistake than selling YOUR soul to Satan. But, it is your choice.

You guys really need to start reading the dates of these threads. Uh...2008

[ginkgo]

Originally Posted by forynav

I'm at the point where I don't care anymore. I tried to move on and did move on (from being rejected). But, now everything is echoing back. All the ghosts are rising back.

the people for whom things are going right. But I don't want to be. For once, I want to be happy for myself.

Does this make any sense?

This makes perfect sense. You want to be happy but do not know how. You do know how to imagine that others are happy but that does not help you. The reason that you want to be happy is because you want to find your (true) self. You want to go home. Your true self is in a permanent state of unending love, infinite happiness and perfect peace.

You just need to learn how to do it. Maybe this site will help you to find what you are looking for.
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[elucidate]

Originally Posted by ginkgo

This makes perfect sense. You want to be happy but do not know how. You do know how to imagine that others are happy but that does not help you. The reason that you want to be happy is because you want to find your (true)self. You want to go home. Your true self is in a permanent state of unending love, infinite happiness and perfect peace.

You just need to learn how to do it. Maybe this site will help you to find what you are looking for.
Words of Peace Global Home

Uh, Ginkgo...this thread is from 2008!

He's either sold his soul or moved on I think.

[ZephyrusX]

Originally Posted by elucidate

Uh, Ginkgo...this thread is from 2008!

He's either sold his soul or moved on I think.

I liked the post and I liked the fact that it led me to marinik's post. I keep inadvertently stumbling into posts, articles, names, ideas that resonate with me today. Yay for synchronicity.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by ZephyrusX

I liked the post and I liked the fact that it led me to marinik's post. I keep inadvertently stumbling into posts, articles, names, ideas that resonate with me today. Yay for synchronicity.

I like it when that happens as well.

[ginkgo]

Originally Posted by elucidate

Uh, Ginkgo...this thread is from 2008!

He's either sold his soul or moved on I think.

Thanks. Why do these people dig up old threads and comment on them making them go to the top of the threads?

[wstein]

Not directly on topic. Somewhat not serious post but would like to know if the ‘Devil’ or one of his agents actually does this sort of thing.

I do not see any indication that the ‘Devil’ has made you an offer (there has been plenty of time for the word to reach him/her.

This suggests
a) there is no ‘Devil’
b) the Devil does not buy souls
c) your soul has already been claimed

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by ginkgo

Thanks. Why do these people dig up old threads and comment on them making them go to the top of the threads?

I have no idea. The fact that they found them on page 52 should be some indication as to how old they are...but apparently not?

[ButterflyWoman]

Yes, I know this is a very old thread. I just felt inspired to comment.

Originally Posted by TheChristian

ive actually been in your position and I was considering sellin my soul so I could see what it was like to be popular, loved, rich, famous, etc.

Okay, what I want to know is where people actually find this Devil who buys souls. Do you go out to the crossroads at midnight and play the guitar or what? Do you engage in some arcane ritual of summoning? Do you just stand in your yard and go, "Yo! Devil! Soul for sale! Come and make a deal!"? Oh, wait, do you maybe put out some Prada to attract the Devil? (I hear the Devil wears that.)

I've just always wondered how this is accomplished....


(As a side note, people sometimes find old threads via forum search or web searches, and comment without noting the date. I doubt most people dig through the forums manually. But, hey, who knows. Perhaps resurrecting long-dead threads is a means of summoning the devil so you can sell your soul or something? )

[elucidate]

Good point. Where does one go to sell their soul? Is there a special market for it? Classically there has always been a contract of some sort, with a wax stamp.

Howard Moon from the Mighty Boosh sold his unwittingly to the spirit of jazz when sitting in a jazz club one night at closing time...I suppose it can happen anywhere really.

Originally Posted by CaterpillarWoman

Yes, I know this is a very old thread. I just felt inspired to comment.


Okay, what I want to know is where people actually find this Devil who buys souls. Do you go out to the crossroads at midnight and play the guitar or what? Do you engage in some arcane ritual of summoning? Do you just stand in your yard and go, "Yo! Devil! Soul for sale! Come and make a deal!"? Oh, wait, do you maybe put out some Prada to attract the Devil? (I hear the Devil wears that.)

I've just always wondered how this is accomplished....

[Plays With Life]

Originally Posted by CaterpillarWoman

I've just always wondered how this is accomplished....

I think you do it on eBay.

[ButterflyWoman]

Originally Posted by Plays With Life

I think you do it on eBay.

*smacks forehead* Of course. Or Craigslist. You put in an advertisement, "Seeking: The Devil, capable of making all my wildest dreams come true. On offer: My soul. Negotiation a must. No false gods or minor demons need apply."

Or, on eBay, "Pre-loved soul, OOAK, pick up only".

[Plays With Life]

Originally Posted by CaterpillarWoman

*smacks forehead* Of course. Or Craigslist. You put in an advertisement, "Seeking: The Devil, capable of making all my wildest dreams come true. On offer: My soul. Negotiation a must. No false gods or minor demons need apply."

Or, on eBay, "Pre-loved soul, OOAK, pick up only".

Rofl.

I bet he had to do it in person for ages. By challenging schmucks to fiddle competitions. YouTube - ‪The Devil Went Down To Georgia‬‏

That must have been tedious! I'll bet the Devil is thanking God for technology, now.

[ButterflyWoman]

Or demanding that people play him the best song in the world (which they do; the Devil seems to be ridiculously easy to defeat, musically speaking).

http://youtu.be/4an3rpucSos