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Old 10-25-2008, 04:37 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Hey Guys

Let's say you had trouble meeting someone you like. His/her friends are nearby. Is it possible to get one of the friends/mates to introduce you to the liked person?

How would the convo sound like?
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Old 10-25-2008, 06:21 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Hey Guys

Let's say you had trouble meeting someone you like. His/her friends are nearby. Is it possible to get one of the friends/mates to introduce you to the liked person?

How would the convo sound like?
"Hey can you introduce me to your friend?" "Which friend? Oh (insert name), yeah. Why? You think she's cute?" then she takes me over and introduces me to her friend.
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Old 10-28-2008, 02:22 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Thank you so much. You are really good with this stuff.
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Old 10-28-2008, 03:56 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Hey Hot Alpha Female!

I just watched your Youtube video and it was SO GOOD. I LOVED IT! I'm talking about the one about "Why women date bad boys and marry nice ones"

I think it's great that you are letting these guys know they don't have to compromise themselves. They CAN be nice guys and still get women, they just need to learn the art of attraction.

Thank you for your respect! You have mine as well! I wish you were in the area so I could take you out! Keep up the good work!!!
Did you also read that article on "Why I love PUA's?"

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Well thanks for dropping by my blog =)
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:50 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Thank you so much. You are really good with this stuff.
You're welcome and thank you for the compliment If you need any help with anything else, please feel free to ask.

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Did you also read that article on "Why I love PUA's?"

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You're welcome and you look good in your new video
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Old 10-29-2008, 03:39 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Hot Alpha Female...I know of you from Alex's blog. Interesting that you also found Pavlina forums. What brought you here?
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:35 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I like reading.
Which books do you recommend as far as pickup/seduction are concerned?

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I like reading.
Which books do you recommend as far as pickup/seduction are concerned?

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Paul Janka - Getting Laid in NYC - read here.. - PUA Reviews and Ratings I think Paul Janka's stuff is the best and works the best out of the PUAs out there.

I use his number close ALL the time. Like literally ALL the time. It only takes a second to do and works great.

Another good book that does apply to pickup is by Susan Jeffers, "Feel The Fear and Do It Anyways". Also this section by Jack Canfield on how to ask: The Success Principles: How to Get ... - Google Book Search

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hey T thanks for the advice. im not dating right now but what you wrote below works very well from what i remember.

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Does this help at all? If you want a specific strategy just do this; say hello, compliment, tell her you have to go in a second to class, ask her out for drinks, get the number, and go! "Hi I'm Jacen, I know this might sound odd but I thought you were so cute and had to come over and talk to you (she'll say thank you and introduce herself). I have to go to class in a minute, would you want to go grab drinks sometime? (she says yes). Cool, give me your number and I'll give you a call."

Wham bam thank you mam!
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Ok, I'll bite since this seems to be the one area I appear to have the most problem getting ahead in.

I have no problems introducing myself to a girl in a social setting, its moving past that, that I have a HUGE problem with. One of the main reasons is that I seem to have 'what if' questions that start popping into my head, like what if she has a boyfriend or husband, what if she is too young (although thats not much of an issue since I look a lot younger myself, but I digress), and the big one...what if I make a complete arse of myself. So yeah, when I start talking to a girl I am interested in, I begin to think of what is the absolute worst that could happen, and that seems more painful than playing it safe (and sometimes ignoring the signals that she is sending).
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Ok, I'll bite since this seems to be the one area I appear to have the most problem getting ahead in.

I have no problems introducing myself to a girl in a social setting, its moving past that, that I have a HUGE problem with. One of the main reasons is that I seem to have 'what if' questions that start popping into my head, like what if she has a boyfriend or husband, what if she is too young (although thats not much of an issue since I look a lot younger myself, but I digress), and the big one...what if I make a complete arse of myself. So yeah, when I start talking to a girl I am interested in, I begin to think of what is the absolute worst that could happen, and that seems more painful than playing it safe (and sometimes ignoring the signals that she is sending).
Hey ABdude, I would recommend you sticking to a script until you are confident enough to where those thoughts don't pop into your head. Rehearse it in your head and then walk up to a girl and use it. "Hi my name's ABdude. I thought you were really cute and wanted to introduce myself. I have to go meet some friends in a minute but would you want to grab drinks sometime?" She says yes and you get the digits and get out.

That whole planned script allows you to get in there and get out. It stops you from thinking about what is going on and lets you stay in the moment. Also, it gives you a great exit strategy so that there are no awkward moments and you also don't have to think of anything to say.

Does that help at all?

By the way, if you are going to assume, assume in your FAVOR. Assume she will be single, assume she will like you, assume she is attracted to you and so on. Every time one of those negative thoughts pop up, replace it with it's opposite. "What if she doesn't like me?" becomes "She will like me" and so on. Also you could spend a few minutes each day imaging yourself as being really successful with women. After that you could tell yourself affirmations such as "I am great with women" "I am confident around women" "Women are attracted to me" and so on. You will literally be retraining your brain for success with women.

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Old 11-05-2008, 12:47 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I have a problem with the question itself. I just have huge blocks in asknig a girl in any kind of way.

Can I just turn around and ask them out in a genuine and honest way?

I've got lots of friends, many of them female, but I have almost zero experience in the romantic arena. I just can't take the first step so to speak.
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:13 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Hey ABdude, I would recommend you sticking to a script until you are confident enough to where those thoughts don't pop into your head. Rehearse it in your head and then walk up to a girl and use it. "Hi my name's ABdude. I thought you were really cute and wanted to introduce myself. I have to go meet some friends in a minute but would you want to grab drinks sometime?" She says yes and you get the digits and get out.

That whole planned script allows you to get in there and get out. It stops you from thinking about what is going on and lets you stay in the moment. Also, it gives you a great exit strategy so that there are no awkward moments and you also don't have to think of anything to say.

Does that help at all?

By the way, if you are going to assume, assume in your FAVOR. Assume she will be single, assume she will like you, assume she is attracted to you and so on. Every time one of those negative thoughts pop up, replace it with it's opposite. "What if she doesn't like me?" becomes "She will like me" and so on. Also you could spend a few minutes each day imaging yourself as being really successful with women. After that you could tell yourself affirmations such as "I am great with women" "I am confident around women" "Women are attracted to me" and so on. You will literally be retraining your brain for success with women.
Thanks for the advice. Using a rehearsed line like that is definitely useful in a bar or large social event like a concert. However, I see one small flaw in doing so, in that it offers no time to build rapport, and consequently increases the chance that she will flake.

Of course, all the pickup and rehearsed lines in the world are not going to do me any good unless I actually get out to events/clubs where I will have a chance to interact with the fairer sex. And I have, I signed up for a half marathon running clinic, an outdoor club, and a toastmasters club for singles. All of these things are subjects that I am interested in, but at the same time they all seem to have a lot of female participants (especially the running clinic). My immediate goal right now is just to get myself out there and get used to talking to/flirting with women again. If I get a couple of phone #'s, great! If not, it doesn't really matter because I can use the experiences in other areas of my life and at least it allows me to practice.
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Did you also read that article on "Why I love PUA's?"

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Well thanks for dropping by my blog =)
Awesome blog! That was a great article and has motivated me to actually do more of this stuff - but with different intent now. Before it was to fill a hole inside of me. Now it will be to develop myself - my social skills and getting out of my comfort zone.
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Old 11-10-2008, 07:57 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Thanks for the advice. Using a rehearsed line like that is definitely useful in a bar or large social event like a concert. However, I see one small flaw in doing so, in that it offers no time to build rapport, and consequently increases the chance that she will flake.
You have it wrong ABdude. That rehearsed line is what I usually use when I am just out doing my normal things; grocery shopping, getting gas, etc... It makes it so you don't have to build rapport. It just cuts to the chase, leaves a positive image of you in the girl's mind, and gets you the number you want which will lead to you seeing her.

So many guys when they want to get a girl's number talk to the girl, say ALL this stuff, dangle there too long, and leave an awkward finish. This gets the job done and usually in less then one minute.
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Had a subtle, but significant breakthrough this weekend, wanted to share. I usually go out with a pretty cool group of friends, and we usually are a (if not THE) center of attention wherever we go. As I've mentioned above, however, I've had trouble approaching women outside my circle -- even when given very strong indicators of interest (strong eye contact w/ smile, etc.). Basically, I felt that my "attraction game" was huge, but I had nowhere to go from there. Lame.

So maybe I had too many vodka-redbulls out on the town this weekend, but I turned into a number-collecting machine -- THIS approach worked very well (inspired, I'm sure, by TTT): "Oh WOW, look at that smile/that strut/you!! What is your name?? Hi, I'm driven1. (hug or handshake) Oh man, I'm being rude to my friends -- I gotta get back with them, but it's great to meet you. Hey, you want to grab a drink next week? Cool, what's your number?"

It's flake-prone, for sure, but at least I'm opening the freakin conversation -- might I add with some very beautiful women. (Seriously, one looked just like Angelina Jolie, lips and all...) The next step for me is either building rapport/comfort up front or after the fact (SMS seems to work well for me), or simply inviting them to a specific event, of which my group has many, and really pulling them into my world. But it's light-years ahead of just chillin with my buds and not pro-actively engaging anybody new.
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Had a subtle, but significant breakthrough this weekend, wanted to share. I usually go out with a pretty cool group of friends, and we usually are a (if not THE) center of attention wherever we go. As I've mentioned above, however, I've had trouble approaching women outside my circle -- even when given very strong indicators of interest (strong eye contact w/ smile, etc.). Basically, I felt that my "attraction game" was huge, but I had nowhere to go from there. Lame.

So maybe I had too many vodka-redbulls out on the town this weekend, but I turned into a number-collecting machine -- THIS approach worked very well (inspired, I'm sure, by TTT): "Oh WOW, look at that smile/that strut/you!! What is your name?? Hi, I'm driven1. (hug or handshake) Oh man, I'm being rude to my friends -- I gotta get back with them, but it's great to meet you. Hey, you want to grab a drink next week? Cool, what's your number?"

It's flake-prone, for sure, but at least I'm opening the freakin conversation -- might I add with some very beautiful women. (Seriously, one looked just like Angelina Jolie, lips and all...) The next step for me is either building rapport/comfort up front or after the fact (SMS seems to work well for me), or simply inviting them to a specific event, of which my group has many, and really pulling them into my world. But it's light-years ahead of just chillin with my buds and not pro-actively engaging anybody new.
I love it! I think you did great and I applaud your performance. I even like your opener. It really gets their attention and shows them you're confident and willing to compliment them in a good fun way.

What is SMS? I don't know all the pick-up lingo. Great job again! I am very happy and impressed. I am even going to use your opener next time I am at the club
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SMS = text message. I also have a few girls I met on Facebook, but it's a fine line between woo-ing and stalking -- I tend to err on the side of caution, e.g. if a girl turns me down on a meet-up, I generally don't contact her again. If she doesn't reply at all, I delete her phone number. Is that too harsh?
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SMS = text message. I also have a few girls I met on Facebook, but it's a fine line between woo-ing and stalking -- I tend to err on the side of caution, e.g. if a girl turns me down on a meet-up, I generally don't contact her again. If she doesn't reply at all, I delete her phone number. Is that too harsh?
You are being a bit too harsh. One time I asked the same girl out 4 times!!!! 4 TIMES before she said yes. When we finally went out (we were having a great time), she told me "I'm so glad you kept asking me out. The first time this came up (insert story), the second time this came up (insert story), and the third time this (insert story)". And proceeded to tell me she was too embarrassed to ask me out after she had said no the first three times.She said she had hoped that I would ask her one more time but didn't think I would do it. We ended up going out and having a great time.

The moral of the story is that sometimes people have other things going on and might not be able to meet-up that time. If she doesn't reply at all try maybe once or twice more and then let it go. Do it in an easy and relaxed manner?
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I'd love it if you added more to the thread, Tony.

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Hey Z,

I wrote quite a few pages on my own site about this. Here you go!
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