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Old 10-03-2008, 01:55 PM
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Praising appearance is a old line, and used by men with solely sexual intentions
I don't want to belabor this point, but it really seems like you have your guard up pretty high against any sort of sexual neuances in the dance. Sexuality is a part of the dance. But that doesn't mean that it is the "sole" part of the dance. But it is a part, and I don't feel wrong for feeling that way.

There's nothing wrong with men having an appreciation for beauty. In fact, my appreciation for beauty extends pretty far, even into types that some people would consider, well, not pretty. But I see beauty quite easily. To compliment that is not an indication that my intentions are "solely sexual". Sometimes, a woman with issues about her waist is starved for a little attention. Getting it in some other area away from her waist feels good. She lights up. And it feels good to provide that.

Its as if you are saying "I am turned off by men who are attracted to me physically, because that just indicates thier intentions are solely sexual." Some men are after one-night stands. But please don't lump all men that compliment physical beauty into that category. The dance is pretty much the same for a man who wants a relationship as it is for a man who wants a one-night stand.

The problem is, the one-night stand kind of guys are good at the dance. That makes it hard for women to figure out who has good intentions and who doesn't. Use your intuition, it's usually right. But give 'em a chance, and don't judge thier intentions from thier openers.
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It doesn't matter that much wat you say. The girl will first look how you come across, are you confident, nervous, playfull, angry etc...? Thats why two people can say exactly the same thing and one will have a good and another a bad one. If you are trying to impress her by saying something really witty, then there is a good chance you can come across needy and this will turn her of. If you say something you like yourself then this will work for you, for example; somebody gave me a line once as a a game (i walked up to a girl and said: excuse me can you show me the way to a pharmacie because i've got gas, --putting my hands on my stomach, frowning my face--) this line is horrible but it worked very well. Why?? Because i was chuckling inside myself when i walked up to the girl and therefore i came of good dispite the horrible line. So all lines above will work, depending on how you say them (voice tone, body language etc...), but you don't want to focus on that because it will make you selfconscious. So use (or invent) the line you like and focus on having some fun and let her decide if she wants to join in or not. If you comment on the surroundings or ask a question this can work also but you have to transition directly into something else otherwise you end up having a boring conversation (remember all the nice weather conversations in your life).

Wheter or not you touch a girl the first time has nothing to do with being wrong. It has everything to do with morals. Are these morals of your own finding or are they put on you by society (parents, the media, friends, etc...)? If you where born in a muslim country you more then likely had different morals about male/female interaction. Morals, then, can be a personal choice or something you accept by society.
Could it be possible that if you touch a girl the first time you see each other you both like it? Is this wrong? Is it wrong to have sex the first night with a girl, is it then somehow impossible to have a long term relationship? If you come from a place of love and appreciation then you don't need all those rules to tell you how to act or not to act.
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Old 10-04-2008, 03:16 AM
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No, not all men who are attracted to a woman's physique at the first sight are solely for sexual intentions.

But men who only have sexual intentions will notice a woman's physique first. That's the point of view I'm talking about.

I went head over heels for a man's appearance at the first sight. He did become my boyfriend. And if there were no physical attraction in the first place, it'll be harder to spark a relationship, though the later decision of whether or not if I wanted to date him was still based on 10% physical attraction and 90% on other qualities.

So, I'm not against physical attraction, but since we're talking about having fun, praising something other than appearance is more fun to me.

Raising standards for sex, or building sexual tension by not having sex so soon, are also part of the game.
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Let me go "blunt" and disect what you are saying:

To not bluntly say what's on your mind does not equal to being fake.
This is a difficult one, if you are truthfull you say wat is on your mind, regardless of wat other people think. On the oher side it can block you from making a connection (if the other person feels insulted or if you are out of touch). I guess in general it is better to be more direct, but there are cases where you can hurt people, then you should check yourself and ask yourself where this is coming from. It demands more courage and openess to say wat is on your mind and you risk being put in the same categorie as the yerks.

But men who only have sexual intentions will notice a woman's physique first. That's the point of view I'm talking about.

And the other men ALSO notice a woman's physique first.
They can then chose to only look at it or dig a little deeper.

So, I'm not against physical attraction, but since we're talking about having fun, praising something other than appearance is more fun to me.
Raising standards for sex, or building sexual tension by not having sex so soon, are also part of the game.
Obviously you know yourself better than anybody else and any man that would seduce you, should know how to have fun and build sexual tension.

Personnaly if i see a really attractive woman i will often compliment on her looks, i might not say it verbally, but i will look her from top to bottom and might utter something like "waw". This helps me to appreciate wat is obvious and then i will move on from there. In a way it helps me to look deeper because i've got it out of my system.

So i hope we never meet each other because this could lead to a flaming discussion where you would acuse me of being a pig and i you of a frigid rabbit
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So i hope we never meet each other because this could lead to a flaming discussion where you would acuse me of being a pig and i you of a frigid rabbit
Bad assumption. I don't think you're a pig.

As you only mentioned your own fun, it seems complimenting a woman's looks contribute to your own fun more than contributing to the woman's fun.

That may be why it's extremely rare for a woman to whistle to a stranger's looks on the street. Because verbally complimenting appearance at the first time meeting isn't as necessary for women. When a woman is complimented on her looks the first time meeting, she usually would appreciate you but not necessarily always feel the fun vibe. Women who get complimented a lot will get bored.
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Fullcrum from RSD?

I've always loved high fiving people I have never met.

"Who are you?" (They say their name)... "OK, but who ARE you?"

Catching eye contact, then waving dorkily is another great one.
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Halffull from RSD. Haha nice, yup it's me.
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