Incest

[Ceros]

Coincidentally, I am playing a game which explores the issue of incest between siblings as one of its plot lines right now.

Well, except that they're not related by blood (one is adopted) and instead of 'exploring' the ramifications of the relationships they just randomly have sex, but it's a funny coincidence nonetheless.

[say]

Interesting topic.

I don't have a sister. (<- that's probably important)

I can't imagine being near an attractive woman and not feeling sexual attraction towards her. I just can't. My sister? So what!?

Why I write this? Because I believe it when a person says that he doesn't feel sexual attraction towards his sister.
So this means that this person has a certain knowledge which I don't have. He has the ability to experience a woman in a certain way, which is totally unknown to me. It's like he's activated a part of the brain which I didn't, like if he was able to speak another -to me unknown- language. (In fact, I see that guys who have sisters can talk to girls in a more friend like way or in a more "feminine" way. I mean they seem to have this ability to forget about sexuality for a few minutes. j/k)

OTOH, sure, some women don't really attract me. But probably it's not the same feeling that brothers feel towards their sisters.

I have a few female cousins and... do I find them sexually attractive? Yes, I do.
I know it would be very weird for me to date a cousin, but that's just on the level of social life. In intimacy, I'm sure I could have a pretty normal relationship with her.
Note, tho, I've only been seing my cousins like a couple of times a year. It's not like we spent a lot of time together growing up.

[g00dz]

Incest is nasty.

I mean, i have a younger sister. Shes very pretty, and has favorable assets that many men would enjoy.

I don't think of her in any sexual way and i never will. When you live with someone every day, you grow to love them in a different way.

Not saying that some people might have feelings for their siblings, if this occurs i think its a problem in how they are brought up. It's not normal, but if it occurs its not something that should really be looked down apon.

Like many things, people have the freedom to chose how they live. If a brother and sister chose to be in a relationship, thats their choice. I can think its nasty, but im not going to look down on them for living the way they want to.

As far as having feelings for a 2nd or third cousin, again weird. Slightly less in my opinion. In any case, id rather find a mate that is in no way related to me, so as to expand the family tree ;D

[say]

Originally Posted by g00dz

i have a younger sister. Shes very pretty, and has favorable assets that many men would enjoy.

pics or STFU
































sorry, couldn't resist.

carry on...

[Spartan]

Omg, I can't believe how many people are pro incest!

I have a younger sister, and although I think she is really pretty and attractive (well basically because she resembles me a lot lol), and I enjoy being close to her, cuddling her and teasing her etc, I would never actually want to have sex with her! I might as well just throw all my morals out of the window if I did that, and go have sex with a few animals whilst I'm at it!

I might look at her and think she has a nice curvy womanly figure, but that is merely an observation, completely detached from sexual desire! It just feels wong to even think about having sex with her!

And the thought of sex with a parent, ewww! That just makes me want to castrate myself. Yuck!

Aunts and cousins on the other hand, whilst still wrong, is perhaps more acceptable to me.

[Dharma]

Relationships -- mother, father, sister, brother are just labels the mind has created and given meaning. The only significance they hold is they are just thoughts. We as a society give them intense meaning and taboo... another thing added by your mind that is not really there.

If all is one, then any lover you have is yourself.

The DNA is a physical manifestation of the belief system. Possibly the taboo against family members having offspring is having the like belief systems (which contain the same programming and denials) merging and creating a more powerful reflection of that programing in the offspring, ie. the slightly higher incidence of birth defects.

[Vasilisa]

Dharma, it's not true. Mother is the one who carried us in her womb, gave us birth, breastfed us and etc. Father is the one, who gave his sperm so that we could be born. WE carry their genes, their blood type nad resemble them a lot. It's not just belief. It's something very fundamental, which can't be changed if you beleive it or not.
Our brothers and sisters are those who we saw when they were babies (or they saw us as babies) , babysat them, played with them, loved them.
In my memory each of my yonger cousines is that little one who I used to babysit, even when they grow up. I can look at my cousine and see that he grew up and became a mighty handsome guy but how can you think about somebody like that sexually (he is a baby in my perception)?
And it's not even my brothers, they are cousines.
I still think those who can let themselves dream sexually about their close family are sick and awfully desparate, scared of other people and unable to get sex with somebody out of the family.

[Ceros]

I still think those who can let themselves dream sexually about their close family are sick and awfully desparate, scared of other people and unable to get sex with somebody out of the family.

Man, you're a judgmental person.

Are you by chance insecure of something to feel such hateful thoughts towards people you never even met?

[Vasilisa]

I think I AM judgemental in this particular case.
I don't know but for me it's sick. I never met people like that if I did I wouldn't communicate with them unless I just wanted to express my opinion on what they are doing. Why? Because I have a strong feeling against it, that's all.
I just can't get it, why people would do it, having many options out of their family. Why to sleep with siblings if you have crowds of other attractive people around?

[Dave Kaminski]

Originally Posted by say

pics or STFU

I'm pretty sure it's **** or GTFO, but that was hilarious..

[Dave Kaminski]

Originally Posted by Spartan

Omg, I can't believe how many people are pro incest!

I have a younger sister, and although I think she is really pretty and attractive (well basically because she resembles me a lot lol), and I enjoy being close to her, cuddling her and teasing her etc, I would never actually want to have sex with her! I might as well just throw all my morals out of the window if I did that, and go have sex with a few animals whilst I'm at it!

I might look at her and think she has a nice curvy womanly figure, but that is merely an observation, completely detached from sexual desire! It just feels wrong to even think about having sex with her!

And the thought of sex with a parent, ewww! That just makes me want to castrate myself. Yuck!

Aunts and cousins on the other hand, whilst still wrong, is perhaps more acceptable to me.

No logic behind this argument though, Spartan, only emotion.

This humors me because your name is Spartan and those are known to be more on the side of objective fact. The objective fact here is that we're all human and have similar tools and abilities to sexually satisfy others.

The only things I hear you talking about are morals (illogical) and feelings (illogical) - I'm curious to see how you'd think if you shed all those feelings and thought about it from an objective standpoint. I imagine you'd agree with many people here.

'Wrong,' as we all know, is a matter solely of opinion when it comes to moral situations and decisions.

[Spartan]

Originally Posted by Dave Kaminski

No logic behind this argument though, Spartan, only emotion.

This humors me because your name is Spartan and those are known to be more on the side of objective fact. The objective fact here is that we're all human and have similar tools and abilities to sexually satisfy others.

The only things I hear you talking about are morals (illogical) and feelings (illogical) - I'm curious to see how you'd think if you shed all those feelings and thought about it from an objective standpoint. I imagine you'd agree with many people here.

'Wrong,' as we all know, is a matter solely of opinion when it comes to moral situations and decisions.

Yeah that post wasn't logical, because I was merely expressing my own sentiment on the matter.

Ok, if I disregard the socially conditioned or perhaps biologically conditioned repulsion, then I can give logical reasons as to why I wouldn't want to have incest relationships.

1) I don't find my mother attractive. She is old, very unfit and very naggy!

2) I don't want to be a social outcast.

3) I don't want to have inbred children.

4) It is illegal in my country.

5) I respect my family members more than that.

6) I personally feel like it is immoral.

7) I argue too much with my family!

8) It would never work out!

[1onewonjuan]

wat if you had a hot mom who had you when she was 15 and then you turn 20 and you're a very good looking guy?

shouldnt have babies but i daam if angelina jolie was my mom id be suicidal, or aggressive . i keed.

but even if your mom is hot, so are a lotta girls your age. try them first and im sure you'll be more than satisfied.

[Kazeko]

Originally Posted by 1onewonjuan

so are a lotta girls your age. try them first and im sure you'll be more than satisfied.

Absolutely! (as a MS manager replied to "This must be why we're not shipping Windows 98 yet..." by Bill Gates) Absolutely!

And how to get one of them is another topic

[JSB]

Originally Posted by say

Interesting topic.

I don't have a sister. (<- that's probably important)

I can't imagine being near an attractive woman and not feeling sexual attraction towards her. I just can't. My sister? So what!?

Why I write this? Because I believe it when a person says that he doesn't feel sexual attraction towards his sister.
So this means that this person has a certain knowledge which I don't have.

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Aversion to incest seems to be an inborn biological trait, based on close proximity during childhood.

From Wikipedia: "Imprinting" ---

"Westermarck effectReverse sexual imprinting is also seen: when two people live in close domestic proximity during the first few years in the life of either one, both are desensitized to later close sexual attraction. This phenomenon, known as the Westermarck effect, was first formally described by Finnish anthropologist Edvard Westermarck. The Westermarck effect has since been observed in many places and cultures, including in the Israeli kibbutz system, and the Chinese Shim-pua marriage customs, as well as in biological-related families.

In the case of the Israeli kibbutzim (collective farms), children were reared somewhat communally in peer groups—groups based on age, not biological relation. A study of the marriage patterns of these children later in life revealed that out of the nearly 3,000 marriages that occurred across the kibbutz system, only fourteen were between children from the same peer group. Of those fourteen, none had been reared together during the first six years of life. This result provides evidence not only that the Westermarck effect is demonstrable, but that it operates during the critical period from birth to the age of six (Shepher, 1983)."