Be good with women/ seduction community

[leetx]

What is a good way to get started with this kind of stuff? I believe this is an area in my life that needs improving. There is so much stuff out for this, its hard to find something to focus on. I know that I do not want to spend TOO much time on this. This can be a product or a website with articles.

I have Zans Enlightened Seduction and Tyler RSD Foundations.

[C33]

Do you want to be good with women or good at women, like some people are good at tennis? Women as a sport.

Then, the PUA life seems to be for you.

I have read The Game, the Mystery Method and gathered information on a number of websites. Seduction is a fascinating subject.

I think improving social skills is a good thing, and most of the information given is very useful in that department.

However, I think the so-called seduction method used by PUA works on very young, very naive/limited women who are not strong enough to handle their sexual life and need to be seduced into having sex instead of acting upon their desire.

The tricks suggested in these books to prove a man's value, such as reading palms or carrying a bag of runes around, sound laughable to me. But I'd say if using a method gives you confidence, it might be a good first step. Maybe later on you can ditch the bag of tricks.

I think looking for what is seductive in yourself would be better than making yourself seductive by applying methods.

Also, there might be a chance for you or the women you prey on to fall in love or get a broken heart.The method to mend that sort of mess is not in a book.

If you are interested in seduction, I would recommend the book by Robert Greene: The Art of Seduction. It's a great read and is full of timeless information.

[Joukai]

leetx, Zan's Enlightened seduction is a GREAT mindset tool. Zan is not about "scoring" or "getting numbers" and "routines"; but about truly loving in a strong way.

That said, I recommend you to get ahold of the Blueprint Decoded, by RSD.

C33, while the seduction community may have started as a "let's get revenge on those b!tches", now, if one's smart enough, there's no need to go down that route. There are very successful people out there coming from a position of power/love - Zan, RSD, and some others.

The seduction community is like nuclear power. Can work for the good of nations, or for their destruction. Depends on who is using it.

[Fullcrum]

Blueprint Decoded wins. It's all you need to start. Forget the other routine stuff. BLUEPRINT! You'll understand when you see it. It's the most insightful thing I've ever seen, ever, on living life, and of course women and social skills.

In the words of Jeffy, "Routines is like giving the incredible Hulk a handgun." You don't need them. Nimbus wins all.

[andrew]

I am very into this type of thing, and my PD was started in women and dating, so I'm obvious for a lot of it.

Everything in PD you learn can be applied to seduction, somehow.

There are 2 levels, inner-game, and outer-game.

Inner is the most important, but will take you the longest time and most amount of work, changing your beliefs and working on yourself.

Outer is techniques and the specific things to do and say. A lot of them teach you this first, and you may see some success. But for a lot of this to work, you need to get your innerself handled.

David DeAngelo is big on inner game stuff, and you should def check out some of his programs.

With all of this, learn as much as you can from as many sources, and take what works for you the best.

[leetx]

is RSD Foundations better than Blueprint decoded? I do not want to spend TOO much time on this.

[Fullcrum]

No, Blueprint.

It's the answer. Watch it, it will turn your learning process autocatalytic. As in, it not only fuses social stuff with zen concepts, but it also teaches you how to learn, and it teaches you about social conditioning. It's a necessary base. Trust me, you'll want this base. I consider it the basis of successful thinking on a level I've never seen. It's far more potent than any DeAngelo stuff. His stuff is blah, lots of marketing.

[leetx]

iunno fullcrum, you really sound like a promoter to me. What is your personal experience?

Anybody else have suggestions?

[Joukai]

Originally Posted by leetx

iunno fullcrum, you really sound like a promoter to me. What is your personal experience?

Anybody else have suggestions?

Fullcrum is right. The hype is real, as they say; at least, in my experience.

You know those cheesy workout programs that have before/after pics? I have pics that go before/after the Blueprint. It won't, of course, make woman fall from the sky at someone's door, but it is, hands down, the best product out there.

[Jamie]

Sounds interesting. What's in this blueprint? Can anyone provide a synopsis or review?

[Joukai]

Originally Posted by Jamie

Sounds interesting. What's in this blueprint? Can anyone provide a synopsis or review?

The Blueprint is a bomb of information, Jamie. It's a program (DVD or audio) that runs for about 20 hours. I have only watched it once and benefited TREMENDOUSLY of it (and I am always weary of doing loose recommendations); yet, there is so many information on it I'll definitely watch it more times.

I will outline some of the aspects that, on my first viewing, seemed the most important.

• Social Conditioning - What it is, how it affects you, how to break free from it.
• What do women want?
• How to truly be yourself, and what it means.
• State, and how to use it.

Most important to me was, definitely, state. You know the feeling of being high when you are playing a sport? Being in the zone? When everything you do just goes right? That's state, and it can be used in interactions with people. That's when the true self shines. It's an awesome feeling.

This said, just go watch it yourself, if you can put your hands on it. It's worth it.

[garentee]

D'angelo is good, but leaves out a lot of other reasons why women are not attracted to you. He focuses on a lot of surface reasons... Not necessarily those that are deep down. He talks a lot about psychology but does not really take into account that something that a man does is pushing her buttons. That said though I have learned a lot of good tips from him. He is just part of the picture. The self improvement part is really key. If you focus on self improvement in this area and play around a little bit it is quite interesting. I have had a little bit of success at this, but I think that I am still working on my inner game. It does take time for some of us and you have to be ok with it. In the end you will be happy that you took the time to learn, and so will your partner. G

[Fullcrum]

I sound like a promoter because it's so good. You don't understand. He ties being socially successful into everything you do and your state of being. He starts by talking about social conditioning. Then he gets into other things like value. On day one, paraphrasing his words, he speaks of the dark side of human nature. Then on day two he starts talking about things like state, core confidence and core value, your reality, etc. Day three is in depth on state, the nimbus, conflicting realities, seeing the depth of things. It's also where he really whips out the Eckhart Tolle. Day four is just incredible, I can't describe it. But he also shows tons of stuff you can do to become unstifled and hit state.

I sound like a promoter because it's helped me so much.

[Jamie]

Thanks for info guys, another question ...

As a result of absorbing the information in The Blueprint, what real (tangiable / measurable) changes have you seen in your life?

Or is it mostly subjective?

[Joukai]

Originally Posted by Jamie

Thanks for info guys, another question ...

As a result of absorbing the information in The Blueprint, what real (tangiable / measurable) changes have you seen in your life?

Or is it mostly subjective?

I don't know about other people, but I have had real, tangible results. Not only have I upped my "outer success" as I have felt more fulfilled than ever (the subjective part?).

I don't really want to expand on my private life in here (at least for now) but, if you want, you (and anyone else) can hit me up by PM, and I'll be happy to explain things more clearly.

Anything more, feel free to ask.

[Jamie]

Hi Joukai,

Thanks for your offer, will PM you. I'm not so much interested in your private life, as your analysis of The Blueprint.

I'm curious, if you're happy to pick it apart (could be a worthwhile exercise in itself), what specifically is it about The Blueprint that is helping you?

I'm reading that it's helping you to get in touch with your inner core being. To put your attention and focus on your own core. Rather than getting caught up in your own head games (we all have them, to a degree).

If that's so, how do you feel it helps you to do that?

Can I address this to everyone, who's worked through the program?

Cheers.

[Plato]

The Blueprint is excellent.

[Jamie]

So people keep telling me!

Though I'm still trying to understand just what makes it so good ... or how and why it works?

[robc]

Real Social Dynamics - The Blueprint Decoded

I've included the website link above.

Go to the site, check out the info offer, they have a few video clips to give you an idea of some of what's offered.

It's like learning about LOA & IM for the first time, your skeptical at first but once someone knowledgeable starts explaining it to you, you start to see how it has worked (or not worked) in your life thus far. You delve deeper into the subject matter, learn more about it and you get hooked and wanted to learn even more.

I find it fascinating, learning about human nature in general and using it to your advantage to live a life of your choosing is very empowering.

It doesn't hurt to check it out, you have nothing to lose except for the time you spend reading about it.

[Fullcrum]

Well, tangible and untangible changes as a result of the Blueprint:

I am outside my head and not lost in thought most of the time, it went up from about 5% of the time to now about 50% of the time, and it gets better with time

My thinking is ALOT clearer, my decision making skills have seriously shot up like 500%. I think this is because I finally understand a lot more about human nature, the good and bad, yet see the positives and can act.

People's opinions of me affect me even less than they used to. They probably affected me over half the time pre-BP, now it'll happen like 10% of the time. I'm just giving numbers to give you an idea, this is a rough estimate of course as my experience is ultimately subjective.

I have a better social life than before and go out a lot. I'm comfortable with attention on me. Like I can whistle in the store really loud and not be bothered by people looking up.

I am happy most of the time. Seriously, no joke. It's no big deal.

A great side effect of this is my sleep has improved, I never wake up as tired as I used to.

I trust in myself to make decisions without too much outside input and deal with the consequences. More self-trust = leadership.

Smaller changes include dressing more stylistically (the way I want, not the way I think people want me to or the way that I won't get tooled by someone).

[Brutha]

In general you should also be aware that it's in the end not about the process of watching a DVD or reading a book but about interacting with women.

[Joukai]

Originally Posted by Brutha

In general you should also be aware that it's in the end not about the process of watching a DVD or reading a book but about interacting with woman.

Dead on. *thumbs up*

That said, I put this together, since there seems to be a lot of people interested in the Blueprint Decoded:

Blueprint's Review

I hope it helps. (:

[Hyperchiller]

The Blueprint is God.

It is incredible.

Get it.

[Murphy]

Originally Posted by C33

Do you want to be good with women or good at women, like some people are good at tennis?

Yes. Its a skill like any other.

Originally Posted by C33

I think improving social skills is a good thing, and most of the information given is very useful in that department.

I agree

Originally Posted by C33

However, I think the so-called seduction method used by PUA works on very young, very naive/limited women who are not strong enough to handle their sexual life and need to be seduced into having sex instead of acting upon their desire.

What methods are you talking about? The methods I use work on very experienced and high self esteem women.

Originally Posted by C33

If you are interested in seduction, I would recommend the book by Robert Greene: The Art of Seduction. It's a great read and is full of timeless information.

I've read The Art of Seduction and its not very good. Greene himself isn't much of a seducer and takes most of his techniques from fictional novels.


Just gonna quickly plug my website about the Seduction Community. Its a website for those new to game, giving a little explanation about the community.

[Fullcrum]

When it comes to this stuff, you really have to do it, or have done it, to speak on it.

Hence Greene's book is all technical with no application. And he makes it sound shady, too, like we're manipulating.

[supertom]

if someone can make a linear approach to this stuff, they could make a lot of money

[dice]

I think the best way into the 'seduction skills' thing is just grab one of your female friends that you really trust for coffee and talk to her about the whole 'women psyche', ask questions etc.

really simple...I don't understand these books, its so much easier and straighforward and less sketchy to talk it all out (that might be why they don't have so many flipped versions for women "how to seduce men")

[90802]

Blueprint sounds interesting, but I dunno. For $600, I expect to be in a 3 way with Norah Jones and Jessica Alba by months end!

Did any of you that are raving about it pay for it, or just, you know, sort of borrow it from the Internets? Don't worry, I won't judge your copyright violations, just wondering if any of you enjoyed it enough to actually pay for it.