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I have had two cups of coffee so I will do my best to type this without rage. It has been a goal of mine to get a girlfriend for a long time. I am 17 and weigh in at 125. I don’t talk to many girls because if you make friends with a girl nothing will EVER happen. I speak from experience. I don’t smell bad or dress strange or have lots of acne and I practice the art of hygiene. Most people will tell you to just be yourself. Umm be myself Also you will never find me being the guy that acts mental and shows off to get the girl unless I have had two cups of coffee. Any advice would be much appreciated. Especially from the ladies |
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| Family Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: France -> Germany -> France -> Brazil
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it's not the way you are dressed or how tall you are... the reason you have no gf, it's your thoughts! my advice: read Ask and it is Given! Or, even better : read Ask and it is Given and join our 30days trial about it To put it in a nutshell: you attract what you are thinking about. You cannot attract abundance out of a feeling of scarcity. As long as you focus on not having a gf... you'll attract more of not having a gf! In the 30 days trial we are currently learning methods to focus on what we want (in order to attract it) rather than on what we don't want. Join us! You're a nice guy, you'll find a nice girl, don't worry | |
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| Master Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Your focus on "getting a girlfriend" may be holding you back. Girlfriends aren't possessions. It's not like you're going to walk up to a female and say, "Gimme you." Try shifting your focus to becoming a boyfriend. Begin expressing some of the qualities you'd express if you were already a boyfriend, especially towards the women who are already in your life. I'll bet you're repressing many of those qualities because you think you need a girlfriend to express them. But those qualities are probably what will help someone find you attractive in the first place. For example, if you think you need a girlfriend as an outlet for affection, then try expressing your affection now towards the people who are already in your life. |
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| Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Quebec, Canada
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I'll tell you the best way to meet girl... it'll cost you $100.00 but I'll take an IOU... You want to meet girls... get yourself a cute dog and walk the streets with it... the girls can't resist that... I've had Bulldog (not saying that they are cute) but, I could not walk one block without some girl coming out and talking to me about the dog... And Bulldogs are great for that because they walk real slow... and the girls think that you've got all the time in the world... If that does not work for you... I'll eat my shirt... . | |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007
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Trust me, be yourself. You want a girl that loves 'real' you. And if she loved 'real' you, you'd be happy. Actually, when i was in high school. It was an all-boy school. I didn't get to meet many girls. I know some as friends. I didn't really want to be just 'friend'. Then, i told her that i like her. Fortunately, she liked me too. Now, 4 years has past. We've been in love since that day and we never have to say that we are a lover or something like that. Do you know what I mean? My opinion is that don't set your goal to find a girlfriend! If you want love, you have to be patience. If you want sex, you don't need a girlfriend. |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Ditto to what Steve and Shamou said. And yes, bulldogs are cute. What sort of girlfriend are you looking for? Someone funny? Cute? Blond? Short? Smart? Figure out what will attract that sort. I love animals, so how Slamhot Boy interacts with his kitties was really important to me. I love music, so talking about push pull technique in drumming was really fun for me. I like working out, so I liked that Slamhot did. We both watch our diets but enjoy food. See where this is going? Also, Slamhot was definitely my friend before my lover. I can't pinpoint that line between creepy and endearing, but it's there. |
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Denis... you don't have to be a macho jock to get girls... they're already dying to meet you... can't you get that through your thick head... just give them a chance to get to know you... and let nature take its course... And... I'm not worried about having to eat my shirt... because I have more confidence in you than you have in yourself... Go get 'em cowboy... . | |
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If a girl is reading a Derrida book, she probably has something going on upstairs and has an interest in language and sociology. Not so subtle clues abound! And you can always just ask. Repeat after me, and smile, "So what do you do for fun?" Again, as Shamou pointed out, you don't have to be hypermasculine. | |
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To quote one of my favorite philosophy books God's Debris, I had to comment about how most people tell you to be yourself. "Advice to "be yourself" in simply nonsense. If it means to do what you think you ought to do, you are already doing that. If it means that you should act as if you are not effected by societal influence, then that is the worst advice in the world because you would probably stop showering or wearing clothes. " Just my 2 cents, I think Steve's advice was the best here. You can't simply obtain a girlfriend because you want one and you can't trick girls into becoming your girlfriend. By simply exerting boyfriend-like qualities to those you already care for will attract potential girlfriends as they witness your caring, charm, and attitude towards those you care about and wish to also be close to you. |
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My eternal problem too. I think it's already a infamous thing here. I never seen it like that "Trying to become a boyfriend".... sometimes I've thought of behaving like if I already had a girlfriend, what should I change, etc. Needless to say that didn't work... I too have seen my relationship with my mother and my sister with me as paralel things to a girlfriend or patterns it could matter but even in my most affectous times with them, that hasn't changed a thing with girls. I mean, even all that may not work. Finding a pair is one of the strangest things in my life, ain't it?, for me the strangest one. I mean... some people are more skilled in that that others. | |
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| I was friends with my wife for fifteen years before I married her. I was friends with her for ten years before I asked her out. I'll sing from the same songbook as Steve on this one... you'll have far more success if your perspective is one of "what am I bringing to the table?" and not, "I need to collect me one of those girlfriend things everyone seems to have." Even now, when my wife and I argue, I find myself asking,"What kind of husband am I being" as opposed to "Do you understand what kind of wife you're being?!" The former leads to resolution... the latter leads to a fight! |
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Dennis, I never dated a whole lot while I was single. I did some dating, of course, but things really didn't fall into place for a while. That all changed when I was invited to a New Years party through a friend of mine. I firmly decided that I intended to do NOTHING else but be myself and have fun. With that attitude in mind, I went out, bought new clothes (at the time I was at my lowest adult weight) and went out looking sharp. My now-wife was hosting the pre-party, then we were going to a club. I wound up hooking up that night in a big way. In hindsight, it was the attitude that I was just going to enjoy myself, look good and not worry about impressing anyone that was the source of that. The confidence that gave me turned out to be far sexier than any of the other stuff. |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA
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I mean, when you meet someone cool, don't you want to know as much about them as possible? When you're running out of things to say, then you say, "I'd really like to see you again. Can we hook up for coffee/dinner?" | |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Dayton, OH
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I just want to echo Steve's advice and remind you that women aren't interchangeable. What is attractive to one woman won't work at all with the next. So I recommend you follow Erin's advice and figure out what you are really looking for in a partner. Then be looking for that partner. Looking for a generic girlfriend will get you no where.
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| Family Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Rafael, CA
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I was skinny too, 6'2, 140 for a long time, and really self conscious about it. I didn't date until I was 18. That was my third year of college, I went at 16, so for two years of college, nada. I always thought I'd be awkward forever and not do so well... By the time I was 21, things had changed though. I got plenty of dates. I was about 150lbs at that point, and just had learned not to be self conscious. It just happened with time, both the weight and the attitude. I came to realize no one really has it all that together, and then I was free to be myself without ever feeling judged or anything. Now I'm 26, 175, and man, I am doing too well in the dating game for my own good. Being the skinny geeky guy pays off bigtime, it just takes a little while. This may be cliche advice, but here's my two cents. Forget about a relationship for now, and try to get as many certifications as possible in whatever field you want to work in. Then, when you are 23-24, you'll have put on some weight and you'll be getting paid a lot more attention anyway, and you'll be a CPA, or a MD, or whatever too. Thats a killer combo. Girls like skills... nunchuck skills. For right now, if you find a girl attractive try to make out with her and maybe something comes of it. Or maybe not. Not the end of the world either way. Guys who worry about sex all the time are a dime a dozen, guys who are still in shape at thirty and have a great career and who actually like who they are = rare. I know its hard to have that kind of faith in the future, but trust me, I wish I had worried way, way less about sex back then, and more about setting myself up with a long term career. You have plenty of time, get skilled in a career.. | |
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Dennis08- I was in the same situation as you are. From my experience, this is how you attract women: Be a man. (I don't mean to be a smart A.) But it's true. What I mean is this: develop your talents and skills and who you are first. Women love men who are confident, ambitious, and fun to be with. This does two things: Firstly, you'll find what really makes you happy in life. Secondly, like I said before, women will be more attracted to you if you have goals, ambitions and purpose. (psychologically speaking, this is attractive because they need a mate who can support her offspring.) You don't have to be good looking or buff to attract women. I had to learn how to be funny, since I was also skinny and not too attractive (I'm not saying that you are though). Tease girls. Poke fun at them. B.S. about all the questions they ask you. Never give them a straight answer. Humor is a sign of confidence (but not the root of course) and they love it. Once I started doing that, I was surprised at what people think is humorous. I could literally get anyone to laugh. It was the weirdest realization - "people actually think this is funny?" I've got a lot of specific things that I've learned... but I'd like to see what you think first.... This is my first post here... so I didn't want to type out some huge post... heh. Anyway, hope this helps and feel free to pm me! Chris Quote:
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| Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia
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David DeAngelo's Mailbag is a good place to start. He has a lot of good stuff. Just remember to focus on yourself, your confidence and believe that girls really are attracted to you! Focus on being a man that girls want to be with. Regards, Yynatago | |
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Speaking of David DeAngelo, purchase his e-book "Double your Dating" and give it a read. It's interesting, and it's very insightful. You will have an "ah-ha!" moment every 5 minutes (I know I did the first time I read it). You may think it's stupid to be "learning" this stuff, I did in the beginning. However, once I got past that and opened my mind to it, my entire outlook on women changed. I feel that the topic of women, just like everything else in life, requires education as well as experience to get desired results. Give it a read, and if you don't like it, he has a 30-day money back guarantee. Dating Tips - Secrets To Attracting and Meeting Women I've referred many of my friends to this program, and it has changed their entire lives. It changed mine when I first read the book 3 years ago. Good luck! Rahul |
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lol, I know, that's what I try. I try getting interested.... but I don't really, I can fake it but it shows. I already tried that line, I've tried everything, lol. It's not a matter of advices... it's something that I have to solve for myself. | |
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I don't want advices. Not to sound close-minded, but all you said to me... I've already tried and made up for myself, that thing too. I've never read something that I haven't tried... my point is that even trying anything the situation could stay the same. I don't know why, but that happens to some people. | |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006
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As people have been saying, i also say that you must BECOME a man, not get a posession, really think hard on why do you want to get a girlfriend, the answer will show how prepared/mature you are to be in a relationship, really, if you are immature about it, you are doomed, a relationship will be a bad experience in the long run, it happened to me... What i mean by beign mature is that you must become a man, overcome personal problems, become healthy, become happier, become independent (meaning you mother and father dont support you any more), understand how to make you partner happier, otherwise youll attract what you are, if you dont have a healthy personality, youll attract someone who also isnt healthy, what an explosive combination for sadness and unhappyness!. You have a lot of resources for personal development right here, use them, and to understand how to make a gril happy get here Fast Seduction 101: Art of Pick-up and Seduction learn as much as you can from the Guide there, take what is beign said with care though (its a "players" guide, but still you can learn great lots if you dont want to be one). Take care. |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA
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So you cop to the fact you're single because you're myopic? ... Cool. It's not a line. You actually have to be interested. | |
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