Weird or Silly Question...

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I don't even know if this is posted in the right forum but, I want to ask about a state of being that I find myself going into almost at will.

I can remove the "I" from my body and literally observe myself as an onlooker. It's odd because I started doing this as a child, staring into a mirror and I realized I was looking or observing someone completely separate from me...like I could see me as others see me and not as I see myself.

But, over time, I have been able to get into this state practically at will and I no longer need a mirror to do it. I could be even in a conversation with someone and I can zone out just long enough to tell myself to step outside...then I do it and I can see my own image as others would see me.

Is there a name for this? Am I crazy? Does this have some kind of benefit? Currently, I don't know what to do with it, other than to just do it for fun. But, am I missing some purpose that this little talent could serve?

[Old Soul]

this sounds like a type of "detachment", only I have not experienced this to the point where I can see myself doing it.....

although I play the observer alot :-)

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Originally Posted by Old Soul

this sounds like a type of "detachment", only I have not experienced this to the point where I can see myself doing it.....

although I play the observer alot :-)

"Detachment" huh? I wonder how I can use this to my advantage. If I can detach from myself and observe myself, is there a way to make this useful?

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No other insight? From anyone here? Hellooooooooo?

[Billy]

It sounds like a kind of bi location or projection. As far as physiology is concerned the Temporal Lobe region of the brain is partly resposible among other things for our ability to recognize faces but especially familiar ones, inability to achieve this is a condition called Prosopagnosia. Do you only see yourself when you do this or can you percieve others in a different light as well?

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Originally Posted by Billy

It sounds like a kind of bi location or projection. As far as physiology is concerned the Temporal Lobe region of the brain is partly resposible among other things for our ability to recognize faces but especially familiar ones, inability to achieve this is a condition called Prosopagnosia. Do you only see yourself when you do this or can you percieve others in a different light as well?

Thanks Billy. I can only observe myself outside of myself. I've never tried observing others while in this state. however, I can observe the unspoken intentions of others particularly when their words do not match what their true intentions are. It's quite disconcerting because I am not looking for it but it's there nonetheless...and I find it a struggle not to respond to what I can really see versus just responding to their words and what they want me to believe....but I suppose that is something different.

[Billy]

Yeah, I thought it was the same thing that happened to me a couple of times.I would be doing everyday things when suddenly I could feel a seperation from my physical body, I would be floating above myself watching myself do its thing but still feeling very attached spiritually to my physical body. Its really hard to explain to most people and get the point across effectively, but I could see myself and others in a completely different way.

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Originally Posted by Billy

Yeah, I thought it was the same thing that happened to me a couple of times.I would be doing everyday things when suddenly I could feel a seperation from my physical body, I would be floating above myself watching myself do its thing but still feeling very attached spiritually to my physical body. Its really hard to explain to most people and get the point across effectively, but I could see myself and others in a completely different way.

that's it! that's exactly it! I know it has some purpose, or could be developed in some way but I'm unsure how or what that would be. Seems a shame to waste it.

[Billy]

I only wish I had your ability to do it at will, whatever we're actually doing its still very cool.

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Originally Posted by Billy

I only wish I had your ability to do it at will, whatever we're actually doing its still very cool.

It really is cool. I'm also surprised no one else understands this or has experienced it and that it is an unusual thing.

I can do it at will, but I still jump planes unwillingly too. I did last night unwillingly while glancing in a mirror. It's as if my subconscious sees a mirror and thinks, "Playtime!" I figure if I can understand what is happening and the purpose, I can direct it better.

I actually have had trouble interacting with people I'm close with because I can read their intent when it's directly opposite to the words they are telling me. So, I'm standing there struggling with how to respond and keep up the pretense so as not to push them away. That always happens without my effort or will. I would prefer to respect their right to paint a particular picture for me. But, I can see very clearly it's not as they have stated. This only happens when it's contradictory to their words. When there's congruency between their intent and their words, I don't jump planes at all. I'm fully engaged in one state.

[freedom]

Hi, I think that you should tell them, and just say that, it is the impression that they are giving you. You should not help them to keep up their delusions, it is more helpful - to teach them a lesson. it is one of kindness, as it will make them see the truth!
Also I am thinking that you change planes, as it is a form of spiritual defense, sometimes, when people send out negs, all the spiritual part of us wants to do is run away, or avoid, deflect etc, this is what I see is happening here

you lucky thing!

I wish I could do that!

teach me I beg you ......

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Originally Posted by freedom

Hi, I think that you should tell them, and just say that it is the impression that they are giving you. You should not help them to keep up their delusions it is more helpful - to teach them a lesson. it is one of kindness as it will make them see the truth!

Really? I thought that kind of thing might push them away. Especially if the circumstance is none of my business. I think the only times when I have felt strongly about doing that is if they are misleading me for the purpose of hurting me or taking something from me in some way. But, if I feel I cannot be harmed by their deception, I just let them go especially when they are family because I cannot get rid of them regardless. lol.

[freedom]

Yes I suppose you are right, I can feel deception too, except I absorb it , and it feels horrible! I like people to tell me the truth and I like them also to know the truth, I believe that the truth will help you ascend, and since I want everyone to ascend, then I want them to tell the truth! Obviously, some are so set in their ways that they wouldn't know the truth if it smacked them in the gob, these souls I pray for - hoping that next time around the block, they will change their outlook! But yes like you said, if I don't feel anything hitting me - then It doesn't harm

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Originally Posted by freedom

Also I am thinking that you change planes, as it is a form of spiritual defense, sometimes, when people send out negs, all the spiritual part of us wants to do is run away, or avoid, deflect etc, this is what I see is happening here

you lucky thing!

I wish I could do that!

teach me I beg you ......

I never thought of it that way. That is really good, Freedom.

I always felt that seeing the true person beyond the facade was an extension of the ability to see myself objectively from outside myself. So, maybe it starts with being able to view yourself from outside yourself. Start with that mirror. Practice! I'm really just guessing but the two abilities feel connected to me.

[sassydarlyn]

Hey, I started thinking about this in a different way. What we think is normal and everyone problably has it happen but, maybe it is more rare.?If when you are in certain situations where you need the escape what is going on, you have perfected this in a profound way. You reach to your higher self. Your reincarnated self still remembers this is just your physical self and you can remove to watch and interpret every day occurences at will. This has happened to me, I have detached and watched but only in times where I have been in imminent danger or distress. I was in a physically abusive relationship once and when I was being beaten, I was able to step out completely from myself, from my body and observe without feeling the pain. Do not be concerned this was many years ago and although I carry a few scars I have moved past this time. I was in a bad car accident and the same exact thing happened, in fact my family had to call my name over and over before I sort of stepped back in and reacted to the trauma. These happen only in times of more pain then I can tolerate but it always happens when it is needed. I guess I am asking if you have had any escapes when you were a young child and if you have just perfected the skill or if anyone else has had these other feelings. You always hear stories of in these times, they felt they were watching it in slow motion as if detached!

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Originally Posted by sassydarlyn

Hey, I started thinking about this in a different way. What we think is normal and everyone problably has it happen but, maybe it is more rare.?If when you are in certain situations where you need the escape what is going on, you have perfected this in a profound way. You reach to your higher self. Your reincarnated self still remembers this is just your physical self and you can remove to watch and interpret every day occurences at will. This has happened to me, I have detached and watched but only in times where I have been in imminent danger or distress. I was in a physically abusive relationship once and when I was being beaten, I was able to step out completely from myself, from my body and observe without feeling the pain. Do not be concerned this was many years ago and although I carry a few scars I have moved past this time. I was in a bad car accident and the same exact thing happened, in fact my family had to call my name over and over before I sort of stepped back in and reacted to the trauma. These happen only in times of more pain then I can tolerate but it always happens when it is needed. I guess I am asking if you have had any escapes when you were a young child and if you have just perfected the skill or if anyone else has had these other feelings. You always hear stories of in these times, they felt they were watching it in slow motion as if detached!

That is amazing. AMAZING! I have never had the opportunity to speak with people who understand. This feels wonderful. I grew up an only child and pretty lonely. Parents were bi-coastal AND divorced...so, I was the 8 year old flying alone from Maryland to California 3 times a year. I used to detatch EVERY FLIGHT. Not because I was afraid, but because I was a little pissed off about it and feeling pretty alone.

I also had an abusive marriage and subsequent divorce. Now that you mentioned it, the times when I practiced removing myself from myself most in front of the mirror, where times when I was in great distress. I must have learned over time how to do it as an automatic response to distress. And, I have learned that I can see right through to others' deepest intent. (I don't know if that is their spirit, soul, thoughts, or what it is really). But, I can definitely see it. That may have been a defense mechanism I developed also because out of all of the things that are most important to me about relationships and people, AUTHENTICITY is pretty high on the list. Thank you so much for sharing your experience SassyDarlyn!

[sassydarlyn]

I have not quite gotten how to do the quote your script part, but what you are saying is exciting in a sense to me also. We are kindred spirits in that we have shared the same type of life experiences in many ways. I was a bi-coastal child. My parents divorced when I was 5 years old and it was car and train trips. I did not understand the whole process and no-one thought to explain it to my young mind that knew so much was wrong about my life without being able to change it, although I tried. I suppose this is when I started doing the same, detaching from my reality at will when life was too difficult for me to stand. I went on to become a very psychic child and would witness deaths of family members in dream form. This has progressed to world events now, but still unable to control them in any useful way that I can think of. When I do "See" things in dreams or in my mind, I am always detached and watching the events unfold. The dreams scare me so I step out. I also can step out and visit in the way of lucid dreaming. This is so much of the same thing. I can focus on an individual and then go to them, only by leaving myself in my bed. Do you have any of that? Oh, and you are very welcome!

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Originally Posted by sassydarlyn

I have not quite gotten how to do the quote your script part, but what you are saying is exciting in a sense to me also. We are kindred spirits in that we have shared the same type of life experiences in many ways. I was a bi-coastal child. My parents divorced when I was 5 years old and it was car and train trips. I did not understand the whole process and no-one thought to explain it to my young mind that knew so much was wrong about my life without being able to change it, although I tried. I suppose this is when I started doing the same, detaching from my reality at will when life was too difficult for me to stand. I went on to become a very psychic child and would witness deaths of family members in dream form. This has progressed to world events now, but still unable to control them in any useful way that I can think of. When I do "See" things in dreams or in my mind, I am always detached and watching the events unfold. The dreams scare me so I step out. I also can step out and visit in the way of lucid dreaming. This is so much of the same thing. I can focus on an individual and then go to them, only by leaving myself in my bed. Do you have any of that? Oh, and you are very welcome!

I haven't had any visiting that I am aware of unless I just haven't been enlightened enough to consider the possibility that it was visiting. I have certainly had very vivid dreams that were extremely poignant to me personally. But, I am not well-versed in the science of using dreams as a tool. I am going to research it more because I'd love to develop a better understanding of these things.