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Old 06-20-2007, 12:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Anybody have any experience/knowledge about clairsentinence?

I have an issue with my ability to sense and literally "suck out" out other peoples negative emotions.I have never met or talked to anybody that seems to understand what I'm talking about, and all those that have tried to help me with this seems to be suggesting measures that to me seems to contradict my inner knowing of the purpose of why I have this ability. Actually most people think I'm completely deluded when I try to explain it, I sometimes worry they are right. My mind sayes I have to take it into serious consideration, but there is this inner knowing that stubbornly insists I am not deluded.

Problem is to seperate my own emotions from other people. I am better at differentiating now than I used to be. As a child I differentiated 100%, but growing up with people that did not want to admit to what they were feeling I grew confused about it. My senses told me one thing, and the feedback I got was total denial. This has resulted in developing another sensor: whenever I'm around somebody that represses emotion or put up a front I get an extremely fear-like sensation in my whole body, like a very loud alarm screeming incongruency, beware" I know this alarm comes from being traumatized by incongruent people and that not all incongruent people are harmful, but my sensors do not seem to respond to any kind of reprogramming technique I'm familiar with (EFT, NLP, hypnosis, BSFF). I'm a sertified therapist, and the sentence "physianc heal thyself" keeps playing in my mind. I haven't been able to so far.

I do not always need to see the person emitting the emotions. For example something that has happened a lot: I can be happily situated in a field grazing my horse, thinking happy thoughts and feeling peaceful. Then in a microsecond be ambushed by overwhelming aggression and just observing my mind starting to produce all kinds of angry hateful thoughts. I look around me and I'm all alone, and my horse is peaceful too. I start searching my subconscious for what on earth triggered this, and is this past traumatic stuff surfacing that I need to process and deal with? Then after a while I take a walk with the horse, and a couple of hundred yards down the road I come across a very angry person talking on a cell-phone giving some poor soul on the other side hell. The times when I do not encounter the source of emotion I spend a lot of time searching myself for what did I think to set it off. When I come up blank in the end, I assume I must have picked it up. My own emotions will mostly produce a memory of a thought or an incident when I ask for the origin.

I have started testing on whether it is mine or somebody elses. I use a question "Is this mine?", and when the emotion is relatively moderate I will feel an ease of the energy for a couple of moment if it wasn't mine. Or I use kinesiology. But in cases when the emotional energy is really strong neither works. My body is completely ambushed, and sometimes I get severe physical symptoms as an aftermath, and heavy detox reactions. The detox reactions can drive my pulse up to 200+, suffocation, visual disturbances, loss of muscle power and balance at times, and excruciating pain in the tissue all over my body.

I used to work full time as an equine acupuncturist and healer, and I have had to give it up. I am 43 now and my ego is pretty fed up with channeling other peoples pains, and I'm often too drained to be able to work. Other people keep telling me that healing others should benefit me, not drain me, and I wonder why it does.

Going inside for answers, and also in guided deep trance, what I say on the tape is that it is part of my role down her to transform negative energy. I have been given a clearer connection and high guidance that enables me to observe myself from a higher perspective at all times and by doing that I can counter being spurred into action by the negativity, transform it within me and send out positive actions, intentions and energy in spite of feeling negative. I have been given the opportunity to clearly feel where people get lost in the negative energy fields and help them clear- and get out of them. That gives me knowledge that enables me to not judge people by the energyfields they are caught up in. It is sort of healing that is heavier on drawing out energy than on sending energy.

Another thing I have been guided to do more often than I like, is to play out "learning dramas" based on the emotions I pick up from incongruent and repressed people. I claim the emotion and problem as mine, play it out, then own it, process it in public as to show a model of how to do it that others can follow. The result is painful for my ego, I come off as someone very high-strung and emotionally troubled. when I meet someone I would like to relate to from my own standpoint I have a huge explanatory problem. I basically seem incongruent, dishonest and not trustworthy when I explain to someone that has seen one of my "learning dramas" that this is not really what I am like privately, but the situation needed to be defused and some points needed to be illustrated. It was just a play as means to an end. That explanations leaves most people thinking that I am even more crazy than they originally thought. So basically my ego takes severe beatings. My inner guidance sayes so what, this is more important. It does not matter how others perceive me as long as I get the job done.

One external confirmation that I'm not deluded on this, is that a whole lot of my clients say that when I come around to treat their horses they often feel that I draw out all their ************ and they feel relieved and get a sense of clarity from my presence. A couple of the more open ones have actually said "You took all my emotional trash with you when you left, where did YOU dump it?" That goes to the core of my issue. I have a great boyfriend, and sometimes I dump it on him, but mostly I appreciate our relationship too much to do that. My guidance tells me I'm the one that got the strength to carry it, not him. My lower self and my body is currently contesting that I do have the strength to keep on doing this. I'm tired.

I used to be confused about the current teachings of the LoA, I have always picked up so much negative vibrations and been in negative emtional states for a large part of my life, yet my manifesting skills for positive events and manifestations are excellent. I always get what I ask for, no matter how I feel about it. And fast too. Until lately when I have given into my ego's demand for some rest and recouperation and stated my intention to work in a less exposed environment. I still want to help, but I feel I need to recharge. My previous excellent ability to focus and self-discipline seems to fail me these days. Hiding sure protects me from some of the energy, and my emotional state then is often joyous and peaceful. But my manifesting skills when I indulge in this actually takes a dive. That is not what the LoA indicates should happen... I have concluded that there is more to LoA than is currently tought, I even think that I know what it is. I'm just mentioning it, as my mind sayes that is a neat type of proof that maybe I'm not so deluded after all.

Seeking help for better ways to handle this issue with people less inclined to judge me as a lunatic, I'm mostly told to set better boundaries, shut out the energies, protect myself and assume less responsiblity. That does not seem to fly with my inner guidance. No matter what techniques I try, I am not able to shut it out. Less responsibility just crashes with my inner knowing on how this universe works. To me that is a perspective to much associated with separation, and I just don't believe that lowering my sense and identification with unity and oneness will bring any progress. I believe a strong seperated identity is the root cause of all these negative energy fields that clouds this planet, infects it's inhabitants and make them do horrible things from not handling the pain of being in those fields. The fields to me looks like swirls of energy manifested as thoughtforms that infect people, and I associate them with the collective karma on this planet. I truly believe the time has come to dissolve them by any means necessary, and I do not want to give up responsibility. I think that would just lower my awareness an make me get taken over by them too.

Still, right now I feel somewhat worn out, and I experience more periods of disconnection and lack of clarity than I have been used to having. That worries me a bit. If I cannot shut out the energies, and I loose my clarity and strong connection to my higher identity, I'm afraid I will do somthing really counterproductive out of foggy thinking. And I'm afraid I'll lose my ability to affect others in a positive way. The way I receive information from other realms is too cryptic for my mind to figure out - I just get feelings and wordless knowings and my mind tends to respond with either annoyance or resistance to a lot of it, as what I get rarely resonates with mainstream thought and what can be read, seen and heard externally. So my mind will always try to look for proof externally and throws up the delusional label frequently. Studying psychology has not particularily helped in that department. High IQ, scientifically oriented ancestry is also not very supprotive of these abilities and inner experiences. I can easily relate to the responses of disbelief and raised eyebrows this sort of post raises in a lot of people. Without those moments of mindless awareness states my self-esteem and self-evaluation would be really shot.

Does anybody on this forum know something about this type of thing, either by their own experience, or through their own guidance and insight. There seems to be a lot of gifted people here. I can't believe I'm the only one down here doing this type of work even though I haven't met anybody else yet.
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Old 06-20-2007, 08:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Unicorn, it actually sounds like you are working through these experiences in a pretty constructive way - kudos for having the courage to develop and evolve your methods even when people have thought you were 'crazy.' That's just the way it's going to be sometimes. Pioneers and explorers, especially of consciousness are always going to be seen as being a bit kooky.

Regarding sucking in people's energy and emotions from my outside perspective( and I don't really know the depth of your experience) I'd suggest deep mindfulness meditation to help you 'let go' of the energies that you take on.

There are a few interesting modalities and technologies that have sprung up on the planet in the last few years which in my experience are very good for fortifying and increasing the body's connection to the Higher Self at a very deep level. These may also be something to look into. In my opinion the deeper or more cellularly that the body is connected to the Higher Self the easier it can move and flow through experiences.

I've met others who haven't responded so well to EFT and NLP as well, while proficiency of application is sometimes a cause I also believe that sometimes the technique doesn't go deep enough and if a person is sensitive to energies/consciousness such as you seem to be then you'll be well aware of this fact and so the deep change will not occur. Experienced practitioners will see this and work with it, but even so, sometimes what is required is work that it can only be done by yourself - which it sounds like you've done a lot of.
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Old 06-20-2007, 09:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Here's a probably helpful article. I have a friend my age and a friend of the family's a little older who are both empathic, and they admit to some trouble-- none so severe as yours, but I hope this will help you as it helped them. Cheers

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Thank you both for replying. The article is helpful to me in the sense that is acknowledges the phenomenon, and that my mind appreciates. The advice though, is what I've gotten before and the main point I am struggling with. The advice to protect oneself against it is in direct opposition to what my inner guidance tells me to do. My inner guidance actually tells me to seek out the most bothered people and take it in to relieve them and process it. Often I am guided to make the energy of the emotions "visible" by demonstrating that they are present, then act out a way to process and overcome them.

It is the processing part that I have trouble with. I wish I could find a way to do that that does not make me sick and tired. I've studied a bunch of therapy techniques, and I use those to the best of my ability. And others often learn and apply them with success from what I do when I act out the process, or at least they learn parts of it and are then empowered later when I'm not around. Some just get relief from being around me as they just have this energetic residue of these emotions and are not overly attached to the thinking pattern they represent. Once the energy is removed they do not recreate it so to speak. Others that are really stuck in the thoughtforms or mindsets that creates and reinforces the negativ energy fields needs to clean up their subconscious programs and beliefs to stop recreating it. And some are so powerfully stuck in their beliefs that what I do is no help at all, just destructive to me. I have to try though, I cannot just shut it out and protect myself. I don't know how stuck someone is before I have tried to help. I do walk away when someone demonstrates that they are not receptive, after all free will is reigning.

Most people will respond though, as it is not so much their free will choice to be stuck in negativity, as they have be thrown into this energy field that is so widespread down here, and they have no idea how to handle it. They are eager to transform it if they are shown how. It is my experience that the percentage choosing "the dark" is really small, most are just caught unwillingly because there are so few spaces to be found were one does not meet and have to deal with this sort energy still.

It is my inner conviction that this transmutation of negative energy is what is going on now and is what will create the prophecied shift that many are talking about (2012). Many are working toward that from different angles, I just wish I knew more people that is doing my angle, or at least understanding it, so I could compare notes and learn from others. As more and more of the negative "clouds" of energy down here are transmuted, it becomes easier to wake up for the average person, and that will be increasingly contagious. That's why it seems so improtant to me to find a way of processing this more efficiently, and maybe why the universe is blocking me when I go into hiding and start avoiding negative people.

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This sounds interesting, Reflections - can you be more specific on what? I'm hoping you can point me to something I don't already know about. I've been working with soulwisdom techniques and dna stuff, but became a little weary, cause the releases it produced where a bit to much for me to handle physically and I got worried my body would just quit on me, so I have taken a break (a bit of cowardice, that, maybe ). I guess my "rookie" strategies for many years have caused a build-up, and to much releasing within short time-spans knocks me flat out.
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Hello Unicorn,

I've read your post a couple of times to be able to take it in... as I am not use to someone having such depth of understanding their gift... it kind of took me back a bit, and made me think of my own ability....
I don't think my empathy is as developed or as strong (?) as yours.

A question, when you talk about the effects of taking in others energies and emotions, could you describe the effects you experience as say "head pressure" that totally clouds all clarity? and that is why the processing is difficult ?

I only ask to understand your situation better , by relating to my experiences
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I have a close friend who 'picks up' negative energies in people and places. When I first met him his arms would start buzzing and his hands would shake. He'd feel the energy run through his whole body and after he'd shifted it, he'd be wiped out. He was like you where he didn't always know if was him or someone/something else. I got him to start visualising the energy lifting when his arms first started shaking. To let his hands be the indicater without using his body as the conduit. It took quite a bit of practice and discipline for him to do but now he can shift negative energies without having to feel the intensity of it.
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I'll try to explain how I experience it. It is different with different emotions. I'll give an example with fear: When I take in fear I get a physiological fear response as if the fear was my own. My heart races, knots build in my stomach, my muscles go jittery, I shiver, I get sweaty hands. When I speak, my voices changes and gets a strained undertone and it sounds scared. If I allow this emotion to produce it's thoughts, so to speak and I'm with the person that "owns" the fear, and I voice the thoughts to that person I get immediate rapport and responses like "yes that's what I think too" and when continuing conversation I often get the response "finally someone understands". When that rapport is established, I go into listening and interview mode, and get the affected person to tell me their stories. I just listen, and often then the whole range of stuck emotions that person has will wash through my system as I listen. I feel it very physically and strongly, and I pay attention to the kind of thoughts that the emotions produce in me. Then I use my knowledge to reframe the thoughts or understand how they produce ripples in the persons life in the form of generating reinforcing responses from others and the "reality matrix" or whatever I should call it. I'll put in comments of those perspectives in the dialog trying to put it in a language form that matches the thought patterns. When the person is starting to feel relief I feel it easing off in my physiology too, but I'm left with a very drained feeling, and I also feel weak, shaky and often get tissue pain.

From studying physiology I think what happens is that when I take these energies in my body produces the signal peptides that goes with the energy and my body is flushed with these chemicals. That is just what chemicals do, they respond to the energy blueprint and form themselves accordingly. Those peptides sets of physical reactions. The kind of energy I take in is producing destructive biological responses, and toxins are released into the bloodstream for being transported to liver/kidney/lungs to be cleaned out and released through either urin, faeces or respiratory mucous, or through sweat through the skin. This process creates physical symptoms that are painful to endure. I can stop this, but then the toxins get stuck in the cells, and are tucked away in fat-cells, and I gain weight even with a very strict diet. When I stop the clean out, I get stiff in my body, constipastion, gas, restricted breathing. It's less painful short term, but more destructive long-term, and when I release after having piled up toxins, it is very painful and especially my skin breaks out with acne and excema, and headaches/vertigo are terrible.

The pressure in the head that you mentioned, I get when resisting the process. Then I wont feel the emotions so strongly physiologically, and I loose clarity. If I accept taking it in and just move my awareness up into observer-mode and offer no resistance, I keep my clarity. What has started to trip me lately, is that parts of me are starting to resist accepting the pain of the process, and have started whining "when am I going to get to have some fun", and the resistance is producing anger at the thought of having to deal with the negative energies. That anger produces judgemental thoughts, and the process that I described that helps transmuting these energies relies on total unconditional love and acceptance of the people stuck in it, as well as of the negative energy itself. This resistance brakes my connection sort of, and then clarity is no longer available. In practice it feels like I'm losing awareness, and I've been wondering if it is because I have not been able to discharge the energy properly previously, and that I have run my body too hard with accumulating this, so the circuits are not functioning as they should. I'm not sure really, even though I gets lots of flashes of insight to help me, and have studied related topics basically all my life, there are still more questions than answers in my mind. The only thing I'm sure of is that there must be a better way for me to handle this, and I won't stop until I find it.
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I have a close friend who 'picks up' negative energies in people and places. When I first met him his arms would start buzzing and his hands would shake. He'd feel the energy run through his whole body and after he'd shifted it, he'd be wiped out. He was like you where he didn't always know if was him or someone/something else. I got him to start visualising the energy lifting when his arms first started shaking. To let his hands be the indicater without using his body as the conduit. It took quite a bit of practice and discipline for him to do but now he can shift negative energies without having to feel the intensity of it.
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I was too busy writing my answer to OldSoul, so I did not see this until now. That is something I have not tried, and I will definitaly give it a shot. I've been using a visualisation that the energy passes through me and into the ground, that goes with the description I gave in my answer to OldSoul. I'll see how lifting it works out.

Thank you very much!
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wow I don't know Unicorn that I can help you, sorry about that .... as I believe you are helping me:-)

thankyou for posting your concerns, if anything you really are educating me and are given me understanding of it !!
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I remember Autobiography of a Yogi mentioning teachers who took on their students’ negative energy and processed it physically via illness. And then there’s that popular western story of a certain figure dying for everyone’s sins, the ultimate scapegoat. I can understand not wanting it to go that far, while at the same time you feel it's against your purpose to stop.

As mentioned in another thread on psychic abilities, I spent years taking down barriers and increasing my sensitivity, but then switched to actually feeling some barriers may be useful (at least if/when one wants to function semi-normally). The reason for that was that I noticed that many of the emotions and sensations I felt didn’t seem to be my own. I’d walk into a room and suddenly feel tired, not knowing why until the other person in the room yawned. A thought would enter my head and then someone else would say it. I’d feel uncomfortable and nervous for no reason, or angry, then look around the room and see whose feelings I was experiencing. The only signal that they weren’t mine was that I didn’t have any reason to be experiencing them. Otherwise they felt just as real as anything else. It was an interesting experiment in seeing just how connected we can be. I didn’t interpret it as a need to save everyone from their feelings though. Rather I took it as a signal that I should back off. Thus the grounding techniques mentioned in the other thread.

While never feeling like taking on other people’s problems was my calling, I do enjoy sharing information and experiences. I mostly chimed in here because I wanted you to know that you aren’t entirely alone in your experiences, though it seems to have become much more central in your life than mine at this point. You seem to be processing things very well and have gained a lot of insight.

In addition to the processing techniques already mentioned, the main ones I know of that could help are the Sedona Method/Release Technique by Lester Levenson (same method, different names), and Thich Nhat Hanh’s mindfulness. I mostly use mindfulness, exercise, comfort food, naps, and affectionate friends I can cuddle up to (Thich Nhat Hanh says walking with a friend and holding hands can make it easier to process things).

My analogy for dealing with emotions that seek to overwhelm a person is that of dealing with a dog that seeks to attack you: it keeps trying to get behind me, but I keep turning with it, always watching so it can’t jump me. Likewise with emotions, as long as I watch them they can’t control me. Taking on other people’s emotions so easily in the past was educational in the sense that it made me question even more just how separate we all are. I haven’t responded in the same way you have. I’ve become more selective of who I hang around/attract, mostly dealing with optimistic, bubbly people. I find that my natural state is one of peace and joy, and seek out others who are closer to that.

Unicorn, in addition to receiving other people’s emotions, have you found yourself able to awaken certain emotions in other people, sending in addition to receiving?
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For about 10 years I practiced a form of meditation that concentrated very much on transmuting 'negative' or dense energies and emotions wherever they would manifest in my being, the finished transformation was always freeing, but the process as it seems like with you was always a wipe out - literally going right through the tunnel and holding on to threads of myself until I came out. About 7 years ago I decided that while this process was fulfilling in many ways, that perhaps there were other better ways. FOr several years I saturated myself in pretty much everything I could get my hands on, sometimes only finding tidbits of info here or there - but every piece of the puzzle counts. DNA activation helped me in many subtle ways - mainly getting more relevant information into my body, but I perhaps like you needed a more 'interactive' approach.

In the last 3 years I've been practicing with a method of bringing the Higher Self consciousness in through the navel chakra instead of the crown or heart which is a really beautiful and graceful process. I learnt this method through Hieu Doan's cds. He explains that when the Higher Self consciousness is channeled in through the navel chakra the energies are integrated into the body and mind with a mininum of pain. The other thing that he says is that just like everything in the universe is connected and essentially one, the idea that chakras are seperate or only bring in specific energies is also an illusion. By bringing in Higher Self consciousness through the navel chakra you also activate this part of the being to experiencing the dissolution of this illusion. So essentially the navel chakra can be the third eye or the crown or the heart - but because the navel chakra is the most "physically tuned" processing is just beautiful. I've had some really profound experiences from this, but the real kicker is that I've discovered that I don't always need to go through the ringer to experience deep joy and peace.

If you want more info about his stuff PM me and I'll pass on what I have.
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While never feeling like taking on other people’s problems was my calling, I do enjoy sharing information and experiences. I mostly chimed in here because I wanted you to know that you aren’t entirely alone in your experiences, though it seems to have become much more central in your life than mine at this point. You seem to be processing things very well and have gained a lot of insight.

Thank you for pitching in. In my clouded moments it is a huge help to have the confirmation that others have similar experiences. Our roles in this creative project of earthly existense are different though, so we all need to follow the inner guidance and not necessarily the path others choose for themselves.

I do not feel like I am taking on other people's problems, I feel more like I'm some sort of a cosmic talent agent helping to transform the energies in this dimension to facilitate ongoing creation by freeing creative spirits trapped in something they don't clearly understand and know how to deal with. Energy turned one way creates new things and promote expressions of life, inverted the same energy brakes down things and promotes destruction. Both processes are necessary for ongoing expanding creation of this dimension, as long as they are in balance. When the inverted destructive energy phase hits our physical bodies we experience pain. Our society traditionally do not teach how to deal with that, and mindsets have arised that labels destructive energies as bad and unfair, and we resist it with all our power. The resistance keeps the energy stuck in inverted and destructive form and reinforces the collective subconscious mindsets of interpreting the the energy as bad, pathological and evil or somehting similar. This has caused a buildup of a surplus of energy in that form in this dimension, and there is no longer the balance needed for optimal creative power for individual parts of consciousness.

I do not see this as an individual problem hitting just certain people for karmic reasons nor that they attract it through the LoA or something like that. The imbalance is actually in violation with universal natural balance laws and it is our collective problem. We are all collectively responsible for this current state of imbalance. I see it like something like a collective monster that almost has taken on a life of its own, and are liable to infect anybody vurlnerable to it. The biggest vulnerability is ignorance of the phenomenon, and the following labeling of this as an individual problem belonging to a separate identity. I feel collective responsibility is the consequence of the fact that we are all connected, and ultimately one being. How we each can contribute best to restore balance is really the big issue. For some like you it will be creating space for- and extending positive lifepromoting energy - gearing up what is too low, for others like me it seems to be transmuting the inverted energy to facilitate more people being freed up and able to be the creative force they came here to be instead for being lost and stuck within an inverted field. I don't think the ability to pick up emotions is a sign that one is destined to do the kind of transmutation work I am doing, it's just a sign that one is able to tune in to ones larger identity of oneness and connectedness.

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When I work with acupuncture I get the feeling that either some part of me or some larger forcefield is in operation that can go both ways. With surplus conditions that have "pathological" additional energy - I draw out and transmute, on the other hand with conditions that are short of energy I feel like I'm sending, or to be more corrects, something is coming througm me and going out again. I'm not in charge of it, I just get a burning sensation in my crown chakra, tingling in my body, high frequency sounds in my ears and intens tingling in my hands, and it feels like something is washing through my head, neck, shoulders and traveling through my arms out of my hands. I do not control this very much. I've been practicing spoon-bending in order to get better at controlling it. With bending spoons I am able to, but in interactions with humans and animals this energy seems to have an agenda of it's own and I am not in charge of it. Actually I'm not quite in charge of the drawing out either, and it may seem that it is my attempts of taking control of it that are creating the most problems for me, as any resistance seems to be disconnecting me and messing up the process, and basically trying to control it is a form of resistance to the underlying agenda of the process that I only have a rudimentary understanding of as I described above.

As for being able to awaken certain emotions in others, the answer would depend on how one understands / uses language to describe things whether I should say yes or no. If I elaborate now, I will surely max out the character limit of the post. I'm working on an article for my yet to be published blog-website, maybe I can comment on it when my website is ready and I can link to that article for more elaborate description on how I define and see emotions vs. what I consider the natural state of being where energy flows in balance. Finishing up that site is taking longer than I estimated, though, as finding the words to explain what I want to say in a way that others can relate too turns out to be a major challenge. I don't want it to be only legible to those having studied spiritual topics/PD for years and having paranormal experiences to start with...
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Default The Hieu Doan material is absolutely brilliant

For anyone else interested and reading this thread, I just want to share that I checked out Reflections advice to look at the Hieu Doan material. I tried out his meditation techniques yesterday and today, and they are like no other thing I ever did - very healing on the emotional and physical level. I believe I have found my better way. Thanks to all for the contributions!

I've also been reading a bunch of his articles, and that "heals my doubts" as to my possible delusion. In a simple way he describes the energy mechanism and connections I have intuitively received in a way that just makes it all click into place intellectually too.

Check this site out if you are interested: http://www.thepathofpower.com/

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Reflections, interesting what you said about Higher Self through the navel chakra, and the illusion of separation. I just wanted to mention that the philosophy in TCM, or Traditional Chinese Medicine, the stomach is related to a balance point between Yin and Yang (Male and Female). The mid point between the two extremes of the earth seasons. I see the balance point as lacking polarity and thus relate it to non illusion. In TCM, the season is called “Late Summer”. It is a fairly small window of time. I also relate this to Being, if that makes any sense.
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For anyone else interested and reading this thread, I just want to share that I checked out Reflections advice to look at the Hieu Doan material. I tried out his meditation techniques yesterday and today, and they are like no other thing I ever did - very healing on the emotional and physical level. I believe I have found my better way. Thanks to all for the contributions!

I've also been reading a bunch of his articles, and that "heals my doubts" as to my possible delusion. In a simple way he describes the energy mechanism and connections I have intuitively received in a way that just makes it all click into place intellectually too.

Check this site out if you are interested: http://www.thepathofpower.com/

Love to all!
I'm glad to hear that Hieu's information helped you Unicorn - I forgot about his articles page as I've been so caught up using the audio training material - thanks for reminding me! For my own part I also totally agree that his material is like nothing else that I have ever done. These are very "concrete" activations for Higher Self communication. He designed an audio activation for me that helped to project me directly into what he calls the 'Plains of Light.' Profoundly beautiful and in my experience the most incredible opportunities for deep emotional and spiritual healing will occur in this place. I'd prefer not to talk about my experiences with this on a public forum but I'll PM you more about this Unicorn and of course anyone who would like more information is welcome to PM me too.
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Reflections, interesting what you said about Higher Self through the navel chakra, and the illusion of separation. I just wanted to mention that the philosophy in TCM, or Traditional Chinese Medicine, the stomach is related to a balance point between Yin and Yang (Male and Female). The mid point between the two extremes of the earth seasons. I see the balance point as lacking polarity and thus relate it to non illusion. In TCM, the season is called “Late Summer”. It is a fairly small window of time. I also relate this to Being, if that makes any sense.

Interesting Alsy - I've been practicing a lot with using the navel chakra as a portal to bridging the illusion of separation through connecting to other energies and it has been very revealing. Something else that was said is that when the body is guided to realize the illusion then the forearm can be the crown chakra or the thigh can be the third eye and so on. Through this practice I'm beginning to experience this happening within my body
rather than just as an intellectual concept. The main difference that I'm finding is that instead of large shifts in consciousness being overwhelming in a traumatic way, they are flowing and moving in a very graceful and beautful way, yet bring me to the very profound understandings of my inner self all the same. This has allowed me to make bigger shifts and integrate them fluidly. It's been a very revealing and educational time for me, because when I was younger I was a bit more arrogant and rigid about my spiritual practice
and beliefs and since opening up to other ways my experiences have become far more rich and fulfilling.
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Unicorn, IMHO, you are using your gift of Empathy to better humanity instead of simply having the ability to tap into others emotions and then turning a blind eye.

GOOD FOR YOU!!

I personally believe that this is truly what most Natural born Empaths are supposed to do. Whether or not they do it is one thing.


Even though your gift enables you to help, you have also seen how draining it can be on the other end. Shielding will allow you to still use your gift of empathy but immediately block out the emotions and then allow you to do your "work" from an outside viewpoint.

Forgive me if you know how to do this. I tried to read as much of this thread as I could. If you already know, maybe it will help someone else.

Simple techniques for shielding and blocking others emotions. (I personally use these a lot.)

Visualize unplugging the emotion you feel from your solar plexus (stomach region). Visualize whatever the emotion is as being a physical energy you can see and removing it from yourself. Surround yourself with protective energy and block the emotion.

Once I block it, I usually leave the surrounding area and do my "work" from afar projecting whatever it is that person may need at the moment especially if the emotion was overwhelming and in need of peace or stillness.

To have the gift of empathy may sound cool and mesmerizing but you and I and many many others will vouch to say that it can be quite the opposite. However, I would never wish mine away as I feel being able to assist behind the scenes and see the changes always offers up a great emotional reward for me.

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Unicorn,

sorry, I haven't read the whole thread yet, just your first post. And I have no idea what clairsentinence is. But what you wrote deeply resonates with my own experience! I have to tell you right now.

I also feel things from other people. A lot of negative emotions of course. Sometimes I will just start crying for absolutely no reason. Or I feel angry, and so on. Just like you described it! Although I think I don't feel as strong as you do. But I feel positive emotions too. Sometimes I'm totally euphoric or in love and don't know why or with whom. You didn't mention it, but I'm sure you're receiving positive emotions too. When I'm talking to someone, I often feel what they feel. That's very confusing. It's difficult to communicate while dealing with such informations. I feel what people I know feel that are far away from me at the very moment they are feeling it. And so on. You know what I mean!

But it's not only people, I do feel some other "waves" too, don't know if it's electromagnetic or somewhat. Once I got really, really sick in the hour before a earthquake. Was playing cards with some friends in the kitchen and having a nice time, when suddenly I felt very bad. I was very scared, and this fear grew and grew up to real panic. I wanted to leave the house right now and hide somewhere! I felt as if someone would be shouting at me, I felt really attacked, for no reason at all. Ich was crying, then I got sick like on a boat. Had to lie down on my bed and vomit, it was horrible. Then the whole room moved, I thought yes, I'm totally crazy now. After that I fell asleep. A few hours later I was feeling perfectly normal and happy again. As I walked into the kitchen, my friends told me they had heard on the radio we had an earthquake, but they didn't notice anything. Of course it may be a coincidence, but why on earth should I have felt that bad just at that moment?

I think I don't feel only emotions of other people but also something like their general energetic and emotional state. I can feel if someone has high or low energy or if it's not flowing. People who are stuck in a negative way of thinking are extremely exhausting. Those who have internal conflicts make me very nervous. And I can feel how healthy someone is too. Years ago I was on holiday visiting my mother. She had some friends staying at her house. One of them, Peter, scared me a lot. I couldn't explain why, he was a very nice and good looking guy. when my mother asked me I used to search for some reasons why this guy should be so unpleasant. He has oily hair, I told her, and an unhealthy skin! I felt very ridiculous for hating someone just because he has oily hair Really, I didn't know why, but I was very scared. He was disgusting, when I looked at him I saw something deeply horrible but could not explain what. I could absolutely not stay near by him. Something very physical pushed me away. When he entered the room, I used to leave. Well, a few months later, my mother called me and asked me if I could remember Peter. Of course I did (shiver). "he's dead" she told me. "his girlfriend called me today. he had a cancer, it was discovered too late, he died two months after he left." OmG the poor guy. I must have felt something was wrong with him, but I was not able to interpret my feeling correctly, so I could not help him If it were today, I would talk to him and ask if everything is ok with his health instead of hating and fearing him... I'm very, very sorry about that now.

You can imagine, many people think I'm crazy. I also thought I was going mad, so I went to see a psychotherapist, what helped me a lot. She's great. She told me I'm "highly sensitive" and have to learn to deal with it. She says I'm perfectly normal and a mentally healthy person :-)

So I'm learning to deal with it but it's not easy. The most difficult thing for me is to differentiate between my own feelings and the feelings of someone else. My therapist helped me a lot. She taught me kinesiology and EFT and a lot of helpful energetical exercises. I did some research on my own too to complete the information she gave me. Now it's much better. She always tells me to ask myself "is that mine?" too :-) And there is an exercise she showed me in addition to cleaning the chakras : you put one hand on the chakra that is most under pressure, close you eyes and feel all that bad energy. Then you say loud "I don't let anything interfere with my energetical system. With my breathe, my heart and my good intention, I make this energy flow away." (sorry if the translation is strange. put your own words there with that idea) then you feel how all the energy is flowing away through your normal energetical channels. the canalisation is there already, why not use it? she says

In the past I was dreaming very frequently that someone is shouting at me very loud. An unknown person with a widely opened mouth. But I didn't hear anything. There was no sound, but invisible waves hitting me. I felt no physical pain, but it really did hurt. Those dreams have disappeared since I'm working on this problem!

you know, when I think back about Peter, I think this ability we have could be useful for other people. no, it should be. It's something precious, although it's difficult to live with it. we have to learn how to use it so we can help others.

I wish you a wonderful day
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Wow! This is very similar to what happens to me.

I actually spent a lot of my life completely unaware that other people's emotions could resonate in me like a tuning fork. I would feel the emotions, and accept them as my own, which can lead to confusion and other problems. Expressing someone else's emotion around them seems to create an emotional feedback loop.

For instance, if someone is harboring a lot of anger, even if they put on a happy face, being around them creates the same uneasiness they are feeling within myself. Not knowing that it is their anger, I react with anger when they say something to me or something happens, and it sets them off.

I became aware of psychic pollution after reading Eckhart Tolle's discourse on the "painbody" phenomena in The Power of Now. Ever since then, I have been able to observe way I feel without the attachment or the sense of self invested in it. I can sense when an energetic disturbance occurs within me before it manifests as an emotional reaction, and I can sense when those around me are fishing for an emotional reaction from me.

Anyway, a counterpart to being able to sense what those around me feel is being able to feel the emotional history of specific objects or places. Most objects and places are fairly neutral. It's kind of like how certain places have a distinct smell, but most places differ in smell only subtly.

The best example I can think of is I simply can't go to a cemetery, especially if it has fresh graves, or has a lot of graves. I am nearly overwhelmed by an intense feeling of sadness or hopelessness, which I feel is residual emotions associated with the graves by the families that erected them. I don't personally feel that death is a sad or depressing thing at all, and even when people close to me have died, I don't feel the same feeling as when I visit a cemetery.

I had the same feeling overwhelm me when I visited the AIDS Quilt. It really confused me, because I didn't realize I was visiting the AIDS Quilt -- it was just on display somewhere I happened to be. I began feeling really, really bad for no apparent reason, and then I find out that we are approaching the quilt. Once I actually got up to it, I could only look at a few of the panels. The sadness is so overwhelming that I was choking back tears and had to get out of the area. Once I left the vicinity I was normal again in less than a minute.

I even get a sense of emotion from certain websites within the first few microseconds of visiting them, before my conscious mind has an opportunity to read any of the content, or even register what color the background and text is. For instance, Erin's website gives me a palpable burst of calmness and serenity every time I visit.
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Anyway, a counterpart to being able to sense what those around me feel is being able to feel the emotional history of specific objects or places.....
Hiya James. Welcome aboard. Nice to have you here. This statement you made above is a clear sign that you naturally cary the ability to perform Psychometry. Have you ever tried holding an object and seeing what you get from the object? Feelings, pictures, stories, ect? Experiment with it if you have not by having someone you trust and know give you an object you are unfamiliar with that has a history. First things that come to mind, feelings, ect., call out. See if you can get close. This is a very nice gift and I wouldn't doubt that you would be able to fully open that side up with some practice if you have not done so already.

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I had the same feeling overwhelm me when I visited the AIDS Quilt. It really confused me, because I didn't realize I was visiting the AIDS Quilt -- it was just on display somewhere I happened to be. I began feeling really, really bad for no apparent reason, and then I find out that we are approaching the quilt. Once I actually got up to it, I could only look at a few of the panels. The sadness is so overwhelming that I was choking back tears and had to get out of the area. Once I left the vicinity I was normal again in less than a minute.

Learn how to shield yourself or unplug the emotion. Being an Empath has it's pro's and con's but you always have the ability to control it. Sounds to me like you've done a good job learning how to decifer what is your own emotion and what is not your true emotions. Just decifering helps a lot but when you no longer want to feel what another is feeling, instead of having to distance yourself, learn how to shield and you won't have to run off.
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This statement you made above is a clear sign that you naturally cary the ability to perform Psychometry.
I've been told this by others.

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Have you ever tried holding an object and seeing what you get from the object? Feelings, pictures, stories, ect? Experiment with it if you have not by having someone you trust and know give you an object you are unfamiliar with that has a history. First things that come to mind, feelings, ect., call out. See if you can get close. This is a very nice gift and I wouldn't doubt that you would be able to fully open that side up with some practice if you have not done so already.
The only experiments I have done was a little remote viewing. My experience was that I was picking up more about the history of the object I was viewing instead of physical details about the object.


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Learn how to shield yourself or unplug the emotion. Being an Empath has it's pro's and con's but you always have the ability to control it. Sounds to me like you've done a good job learning how to decifer what is your own emotion and what is not your true emotions. Just decifering helps a lot but when you no longer want to feel what another is feeling, instead of having to distance yourself, learn how to shield and you won't have to run off.
Where can I find information on how to shield myself? For most emotions at normal intensity levels, I can simply observe it and remain detached. I currently deal with stronger emotions by avoiding those people and places which reek of negativity. That's not the optimal solution, seeing as how contemporary society is pretty much fear-based.

I used to think I had social anxiety disorder, and was seeing a therapist and taking medication, because I always had a feeling of anxious tension in the background, especially when out in public or around large groups of people. Once I realized it wasn't MY anxiety, and stopped owning it, it stopped having an impact on me. I realize now that it is just the collective emotion of everyone around me, which is characterized as almost paranoia, with a taste of nervous restlessness/impatience. The most radical outward change is a constant calmness -- I used to have nervous habits like shaky-leg, nail biting, scab picking, finger drumming, fidgeting, and every last one of them stopped occurring when I released my attachment/identification with outside emotion.
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The only experiments I have done was a little remote viewing. My experience was that I was picking up more about the history of the object I was viewing instead of physical details about the object. .
Once again, this leads me to believe you are very inclined to performing Psychometry. Psychometry is a wonderful gift to naturally possess. Many psychics working with police investigations and missing person cases use psychometry to assist them in the information they relay to the authorities. You were given this naturally, find out how to use it to best suit humanity.


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Where can I find information on how to shield myself? For most emotions at normal intensity levels, I can simply observe it and remain detached. I currently deal with stronger emotions by avoiding those people and places which reek of negativity. That's not the optimal solution, seeing as how contemporary society is pretty much fear-based..
Shielding is actually quite easy and can be done a variety of ways depending on the person. I personally project a protective energy around myself by envisioning white light that bleeds from each pore and creates a protective shield. I also Call upon God to assist me in my shielding. Another technique I use is just like unplugging a plug from an outlet in the wall. Once I identify the person I'm receiving emotion on, I envision the plug that is connecting the emotion to me. This plug is attached to my stomach or solar plexus as that is where I have found I receive the most information when it comes to emotional keys to others. I mentally envision the plug and mentally "unplug" it. (I use this technique when I'm not in the mood to cut off all of my psychic intuition at that moment) Otherwise, sometimes I will completely block all when I shield completely.

If you've never worked with energy or things such as shielding, this may all sound a bit wierd to you but it's time to face it. In this day and age, you James would be considered wierd and so would I and so would many others. Who cares. You are an Empath and a psychic that strongly leans toward intuitions on past and psychometry. You may have much more but I'm only going off of what you have indulged us with. An Empath must learn to shield. You have already taken the 1st step on your own which was identifying what emotions are yours and which are not. Take the next step. You do not always have to shield. Empathy can be a wonderful gift that allows you to see and feel things about other people that may enable you to actually assist them more so than you could have if you did not have the empathic gift.

YOu can always google searches on psychic shielding but I found that shielding really becomes quite personal to the individual who does it and once you learn how to do it, You'll come up with the way that feels most comfortable to yourself.

If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask or you can PM me as well and I'll try to help you out with learning how to shield.
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Unicorn:

You said, "My previous excellent ability to focus and self-discipline seems to fail me these days." Since you are familiar with energy psychology you know that acceptance is an important part, especially with EFT: "Even though I have this problem, I fully and deeply accept myself." Perhaps you have some limiting beliefs that you must not ever slow down and be idle. The Law of Attraction may not be working when you slow down because your soul wants you to take a break from everything.

You would benefit from becoming a "skilled" empath. Part of being a skilled empath is knowing how to turn empathy off. (After you learn to turn empathy off, you can learn how to turn it on without harming yourself.) A wonderful woman named Rose Rosetree knows all about this. Her site is ROSE ROSETREE and WOMEN'S INTUITION WORLDWIDE. Her book Empowered by Empathy can teach you how to become a skilled empath. She also holds workshops and conducts personal sessions over the phone. Empathy really does not have to be a burden. Since you have worked with animals, this in particular will probably be of interest to you: One Cat’s Wisdom by Marilyn Cooley

As for clairsentience...clairsentience (in the context of empathy) is a language for empathy. You have types of empathy (physical, emotional, intellectual, animal, et cetera) and ways of speaking of empathy (clairsentience, clairaudience, analytical awareness, synesthesia, et cetera).

Please let me know if you find my recommendations helpful.
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Px1--thanks for the Rose Rosetree link--very interesting!

This is especially helpful to me:

CUT CORDS OF ATTACHMENT -- BY ROSE ROSETREE
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I just now checked the forum again--good to see you--I think I need you!

I'll go check out your blog right now--thanks.

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Just read about Liz Taylor & started on Virginia Woolf--really interesting stuff!
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Have you ever read on the " indego children" . I have a freind whos son is the same way. He was diagnosed as ADD, he remembers past a past life and chooseing his mother. He is seven and always talks about it.
He also picks up on the emotions of others. His parents are going through a
bitter divorce, and you can see the anger. When his mother is sad, you can see the sadness in him. He picks up on the emotions of those around him and acts them out. It got me curiouse, and in looking online I came across an article on indego children, and it it really sounds like him. I could be way off, but thought it would be an interesting thing to check out.

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Don't know if you'll still see this -but I also have a similar gift. I didn't know what was going on either. I went to Sedona and found a healer who knew what I was talking about. He told me to do what you are doing - ask my body if it's mine or someone else's. Release it if it was others and deal with it and heal it if it was mine. The protection thing I never got either. I recently say a healer who gets violently ill like you do. Mine is not that extreme. She showed me how to do it - although I think you have to practice for a while to get the borders strong. I agree that this is one of your gifts to the planet - at the same time you are not meant to suffer physically because of others pain. I also took a Reiki I and II class which I highly recommend. They speak of how to transfom energy into love. I will fill the energy come into me and I breathe in deeply feeling it inside of me. I then ask God (or Nature, Universal Energy - whatever you believe in ) to take the energy and transform it for the highest good of the planet into unconditional love and then I breathe the energy back out ...releasing it. It takes some practice as well and wouldn't have made sense unless I attended the classes. Also recommend putting out the intention to find others who can teach and guide you in your gifting. The universe will provide whatever you need.

I wish Love and Light to surround you always!
P.S. I'm working on protecting myself while sleeping.
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I have a some suggestions for reading material that might help:
  • Vianna Stibal's ThetaHealing book. There are some practices in there that have dramatically helped me with being an empath.
  • One of the books on highly sensitive people talks about that fact that such folks are empaths -- it has some really good suggestions; I'll try to dig it out and post the name of the book.
  • Paul McKenna books and CDs -- these are about managing your internal life, and I've found them extremely helpful.

I am an empath as well, and have issues much as you describe only not to the same degree. You definately fit the description of an Indigo Child. People who aren't sensitive seem to think these things are gifts, but along with the gifts come some very real challenges.

I would suggest you come up with an alternative to running the energy through your body and transforming it that way. Try Vianna Stibal's approach; it may really help you.

One thing I do as well, to stay grounded -- and this is going to sound so funny -- but in my third chakra, I envision all my cells as being little tibetan monks and that chakra as a tibetan monestary; and all of my cells are chanting ooommmmm at the same time. The sound I envision coming from that chakra is sooooo grounding, and all of the wee monks are soooo happy. This is one way I've found of enlisting my body to help; and hey, isn't your body supposed to be a temple to God. Well, I can honestly say that mine is.

I own and ride horses too; horses are the best. You might ask your horses for input on how to stay grounded with this ability. Many of them have this ability, or seem to, and to a very great degree. If you get a chance another lovely book is The Tao of Equis.

I am preparing for head out for work, but I really want to read your posts in more detail. In the meantime, many blessings from Belle,

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Old 09-15-2008, 04:30 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Hey,

I just thought I"d put a hand out for you and let you know that I too experience these feelings and for quite a long time used to drag other peoples, organisms, spirits, etc's enrgies around with me. But I have found a simple technique that allows me to continue with this cleansing work without draining the entirity of my spirit.

Firstly, when I am feeling something in me that I know I haven't experienced anything to warrant me feeling this. I question the feeling with is this mine or someone elses energy? This takes alot of practice and a deep connection with yourself to obtain but once achieved will benefit you consistently.
Once the feeling has been recognised as foreign I acknowledge it's presence and it's importance at this time. I then ask for anything that is not mine or serving for the highest source of good to leave my body and enter into the divine light being totally and completely transformed into positive lifegiving energy. You can do this by breathing it out, shaking it out, or any other method that you feel comfortable with at the time.

I would like to stress that it is important for you as a healer to be able to recognise, release, and cleanse yourself of others energy. It is not yours to carry, but it is yours to release to the highest good, because sometimes others have quite alot of difficulty with this, and this is where you are here to help. I also feel that is important to let you know that if you are not at your peak you cannot expect to heals others as effectively as you could. You need to be able to love yourself aswell and follow your own path without the added baggage that is not yours.

I need to let you know that it is okay for you to surrender other peoples, animals, spirits, etc's energies to the divine light. This does not make you any less of a person or a healer, in fact it will allow you to become a better one. As by not being clouded by the confusion and cloudiness of others emotions you will be able to understand and help more effectively.

I really hope that this message helps you.
I too am a healer. I too used to let others emotions rule my life and my life and connection to the core of my being suffered as a result. As fluctuating moods and confusion were a contant presence in my life, there was no peace, but now I can continue with my work as a healer withoutholding on to everyone elses baggage.

P.S: Let me ensure you that the people, animals, spirits, etc will all still feel your healing presence and continue to respond in the same way that they always have, the only difference is that you too will be able to feel the amazing freedom that comes from the release of these pressures.

May angels watch over and guide you and those that you hold dear.
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