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Astral projection and spying on people? 
06-14-2007, 08:04 PM
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No, I can't astral project but I was just wondering - I'm a bit paranoid  | |
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06-14-2007, 08:26 PM
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Yes you can totally spy on someone. Back in the day when I was projecting several nights per week, a couple of other friends of mine who could also do it, and I, would meet at each other's houses in astral form. It was great fun. We could sense each other's presences.
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06-14-2007, 09:35 PM
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Yeah, I meant, I was in astral form and they were physical in their beds (not projected yet). So I would come and sort of knock on them and then they would come out of their bodies and join me in an astral romp.
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06-14-2007, 11:30 PM
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Talked about "out of body" experience and curses! One thing that most persons do not take notice. World Cup 98. Windows 95 OSR2 (Compaq) Direct 3D CD-ROM: Microsoft Encarta and MS 'Soccer'. Moto Racer. Soccer: Nike and Brahma (official sponsors ) France (there was persecutions about Soccer player , including attacks and deaths on the later years. Other people was persecuted by digital cameras , lies and movie/pictures .) Vitoria da Conquista Pluto! (ex- 'Planet X') And of course that you could sense and sometimes even listen to the others, the main problem is that most persons don't see clearly. Even thinking and wondering what are the other presences ... By the way (not in World Trade Center) D&D also has a interesting reading, imagine making 3D games! | |
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06-14-2007, 11:39 PM
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By the way, there is some strange "fate" about 'lucky' games and Soccer. Like the Bingo / Keno and the R$ 2 billion (if Real) , one Billion if USD$. Soccer has some weird pacts and links. Like the spiritism. If you like Mobile Phones and games, it is a similar "story". Much like the "tale" (maybe not fiction after all) about the (evil?) C.U.T. on Brasil. The 'Syndicate' that systematically disable services like Banking and other working sections ... Does anyone really believed that the Chaos on Brasil was gratuite !? It was 'orchestred', at least it is the most obvious supposition ... There is the (not so) good , the fancy , the nice and the 'uggly' ... But this could be so much 'evil' to one individual , like was 'stated' in this board if the pain was distributed it could be more tolerable !!! |
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06-14-2007, 11:48 PM
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What's about politics that are linked with NEW AGE? Like Spiritism ... Partido dos Trabalhadores Espiritismo - Google Search By the way, the color RED has a significance in New Age. The Star is another symbol. There was a trend, some years ago the Media Channels made attacks against a old President (Fernando Collor de Mello - Wikipédia) that was linked to something "Purple" ... By the way, the "HYSTORY" of America seems to be a very bad (and crude) "joke" !!! Be award and walk carefully ... [On a side note , the "owner" of one T.V. 'Channel' in Brasil had the candidature impugned and it is the same that sometimes make "jokes" about Mexiacan novels and the "Bill") . |
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06-14-2007, 11:57 PM
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If you wante to wonder about Deviation from the Standard. Seek for the "logical and rational" I.Q. of Brasil , if this has something to do with disequilibrated persons ..." I Don't know" !!! | |
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06-15-2007, 01:53 AM
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It's not ethical to spy on people without their permission. For me, it was just friends who wanted me to stop by. We played together astrally. I don't think I ever went to spy on anyone else. One time, though, my friend who was very accomplished at projection set up a little trap for me because he knew I might be stopping by. As soon as I got to his room it was all dark and then there was this animal like thing with red glowing eyes growling at me. I got scared and returned to my body, hearing my friend chuckling at me as I left. He told me later he set up a "guard dog" to prevent me from coming into his room. He was successful! That keeps the spies out. |
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06-15-2007, 01:18 PM
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The person can sense you if they have the ability to sense you. Not everyone has the ability. Or I should say, not everyone has developed the ability. No other human being could go into your body and inhabit it while you're out. It's like the energy signatures wouldn't match. Like putting a C battery into something that required an A battery. |
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06-15-2007, 04:19 PM
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I just wonder have anyone had any proof that their astral projections isnt just a VERY vivid and lucid dream? I dont mean to be the skeptic here as Im a believer in things that I have either experienced or proven, and I havent experienced this(except a lucid dream but that was just a dream after a EMDR treatment where you enter REM sleep) So I was wondering if anyone has had a astral dream where you maybe gone somewhere uve never been before and observed the place and then actually went there to see if it is real? Just seems if astral projection was real and everyone could do it it would be the most participated phenamenon in the world. Everyone would fly around, watch hot girls in the shower, travel to different countries all the time. Most would probably only live in the astral body and just eat in the real physical body:P |
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06-15-2007, 08:25 PM
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The only way to prove it to yourself is do it for yourself... I think that gos for psychic abilities aswell. From my experience astral projection feels a lot different from lucid dreaming but thats just me. You have 360 vision in the astral and its very confusing i still haven't got the hang of it. Movement aswell is tough but i think thats because i haven't been able to get very far from my body and there is some interference going on. I think the reason people are so afraid of AP is it opens up a hole different view on reality for them and they don't want to even go there or consider it... I even find people are scared of lucid dreaming and thats just a playground. Another thing about AP is the intense vibrations you run into on the exit and that can be very intense and even scary, another reason people would stop as soon as they begin to project. Its a unreal feeling that you have to experience for yourself to believe. I can see why people who are afraid of that can of worms would feel better to write it off as lucid dreaming. I accept that its possible that its all in my head but i doubt it from everything i have read and felt. I will look to validate it for myself as i get more experiences but i'm going to need more practice thats for sure. Here is a good link to start if you are serious about learning to project his book astral dynamics is great. The forums have some interesting discussion on the subject aswell. Astral Dynamics | Astral Projection, Energy Body, Healing, Kundalini, Auras, Self-Defense I have wrote on this forum a bit about my experiences so far with AP and dreaming you can check it out here... i warn you the posts are long  Astral Projection I am definitely not "experienced" on the subject but i have had some interesting experiences and did a fair amount of reading now and i find it all very fascinating. Peace and love  |
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06-15-2007, 10:35 PM
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Basically you are asking if someone had a "etheric projection" or Out of Body projection , the ones that could physically change the places. Not just a projection in the Dream World or visualization. During Sleep Paralyze a person begin into a immobilization and them start to lucid dreaming or projecting ... By the way, I believe that the term "projection" also could be used for projected images (much like the concept of holograms) or archetypes . | |
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06-16-2007, 08:50 AM
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I had a man join my psychic development class a few years ago who claimed he'd astrally travelled since he was a child. After the first class I had a couple of ladies call to say he'd astrally followed them home and into their houses. One said he appeared in her bedroom while she undressing. When I confronted him, he bragged about it. I told him what he was doing was invasive, abusive and he was no longer welcome in the class. As far as I'm concerned what he did was on a par with a 'Peeping Tom.' It's a shame because he had ability that he could have used to help other people. What a waste. Lally |
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06-16-2007, 09:18 AM
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UK medium Betty Shine wrote a book called Mind to Mind about communicating with the living telepathically. A friend and I discovered we had the ability to send and recieve clear messages to each other mind to mind. We had a lot of fun testing each other. We were also able to project ourselves astrally to where ever the other one was. I discovered this ability one Boxing Day when he was playing golf with his family. I had wandered off in my mind and found myself wondering how the game was going. Next thing I knew I was standing under a tree watching and could hear the conversation between them as the teed off. He rung me all excited when he got home to say he'd seen this white lady standing under a tree while they were teeing off. He always saw me after that as the white lady when I visited him astrally, he looked the same when he visted me.When he visited me I looked like me. I've never been able to figure that out. One time after he'd moved away and I hadn't heard from him for awhile, I woke in the night with him shaking me, telling me I needed to get some water, I was burning up. I tried getting out of bed but could hardly stand up. He grabbed hold of me and supported me into the kitchen. After I'd drunk the water, the phone started ringing. He rung to tell me I was really sick and had to get to a docter. He said he'd been trying to call me but I didn't pick up. He'd been woken up by spirit telling him I was really sick and needed water. Next thing he knew he standing by my bed with his hand on my head. I'd had the flu and kept pushing myself through end of semester exams. The flu had turned to pneumonia. Lally |
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