Ancients

[Midnite]

What does everybody know about the Ancients?

I don't think I am exactly referring to Earthly Ancients but closer to some form of Universal ones.

[ChristsLight]

They're old?

[cheesedip1]

What's an "ancient"?

[royster]

Old Souls Speak Out

Certainly Thoth qualifies for this catagory, and I often wondered where that sentience went?

Yes, Ancients are the first group of consciousness when the universe started. They still exist, and it is an interesting question. It's such a huge universe, and there are a lot of places to go that we can't even imagine. Hell, some people on these forums can think beyond the t.v. screen! But with multiple universes and all that can be experienced, my gut feeling is the Ancients...like the Hopi's Massau...make their rounds and check on things. It is unlikely they have terminated, though there are some indications this is possible, but my own view is that they don't cease to exist: they simply go through a portal into another place.

[Irisha]

I think Ancients were different from us in many ways. For ex., the tembre of their voices was different. I remember watching the movies of the 30th, where women were speaking with a different tembre of the voice, it was higher, not like now. When I see the movies about the ancient times, and hear the the actors speaking with the same tembre, not changing it at all, I am always laughing. Really, it creates a comic effect!
The sky above the Ancients was different, the stars were different, and the Ancients could not help being different in many aspects of their life. They thought differently, their ethical system was different, their views on things were different.
For ex., when the contemporary Russians are compared with their ancestors who lived several thousands years before, their mentality, religious beliefs, attitude to each other seem to be based on so many different things which we have no idea of nowadays. They divided the Universe into three parts: Nav', Yav', and Prav', - the other side, the existing world where people live, and the world of Gods. Nav' and Yav' are always in the state of the constant struggle. There is the paradise - Iriy where God Svarog has a tree with the nest of Mother Sva. And there are Gods which are half-human, half-birds: Alkonost - the Bird of Joy and Happiness, Sirin - the Bird of Sadness, and Gamayun - the Bird of Claircognizanse. There is also Bird Fenix which can recover itself from the ashes. They are all the Birds of Yav', and they fight with the Birds of Nav': Black Raven, Eagle Magul, and Swan Offence born from the iron eggs of the Grey Duck. Svarog and Sva created Vyshen' (sounds like Vishnu), who has faces in Nav', Yav', and Prav'. There was a star flower in Iriy which created Goddess Maya. Maya and Vyshen' created Kryshen' (sounds like Krishna), and Kryshen' has the Book of Stars - Vedy. Yes, many words in Russian sound like Sanskrit words. Vedy means Knowledge, there is the old Russian word 'vedat'' - 'to know'. Those ancient Russians were so much different! It can be seen in the language of their books ( Kolyada Book, Veles Book) where they described the creation of the Universe: it is full of words with the diminutive suffixes, and they sound very, very tender and soft. ( I think it's impossible to translate those books into English - there are very few suffixes and prefixes in English as compared to Russian which has many words with several suffixes and prefixes, each having its special meaning.) What kind of people were those Ancients who spoke so tender and soft? They were quite different.

[Midnite]

Originally Posted by cheesedip1

What's an "ancient"?

Those that have existed for a very long time, progressed beyond the point of the need of experiencing life but rather stick around to guide those that wish to receive help. Beyond what we may call Ascended Masters, but rather closer to the fact as some form of Diety, however a great many wish to remain unknown as they would not like to confuse the issue of God. I think most are 6th Dimensional or higher.

[Midnite]

Originally Posted by royster

Certainly Thoth qualifies for this catagory, and I often wondered where that sentience went?

I am wondering the same thing. I do believe that the reason Ascended Masters are more readily called upon is that they directly experienced lifetimes on Earth and are therefore easier to relate to. The Ancients are something I have mostly completely ignored until just recently.

Originally Posted by Irisha

Gods which are half-human, half-birds: Alkonost - the Bird of Joy and Happiness, Sirin - the Bird of Sadness, and Gamayun - the Bird of Claircognizanse. There is also Bird Fenix which can recover itself from the ashes. They are all the Birds of Yav', and they fight with the Birds of Nav': Black Raven, Eagle Magul, and Swan Offence born from the iron eggs of the Grey Duck. Svarog and Sva created Vyshen' (sounds like Vishnu), who has faces in Nav', Yav', and Prav'. There was a star flower in Iriy which created Goddess Maya. Maya and Vyshen' created Kryshen' (sounds like Krishna), and Kryshen' has the Book of Stars - Vedy. Yes, many words in Russian sound like Sanskrit words. Vedy means Knowledge, there is the old Russian word 'vedat'' - 'to know'.

Horus came to me yesterday. He appeared unto me as a large blue falcon's head on top of a very muscular human body with blue and gold wrappings.

Why all the birds? I have no idea.

What I do know is that blue corresponds to the 6th Dimensional state, or that which is the highest individualized state before any form of grouping or merging together. Gold represents physicality.

This morning over breakfast I heard the name Ankh-f-n-Konsu sound in my mind (which is of course the Egyptian Priest Aleister Crowley claimed to be the reincarnation of) and I suddenly saw him standing in front of me in a dark black coat. Beyond that I have an absolutely splitting headache today, I can't even think straight. And I keep seeing Horus' blue face whenever I close my eyes.

Wtf is happening??

[Angelz]

The ancients more commonly known as ascended masters are here to help us both on earth and on the other side. They assist us in planning our lives before we come to earth in order for us to efficiently learn the lessons we desire to learn to evolve our soul. The ascended masters are so evolved that they are now teachers and counselors for us when we lose our way or stumble. They are very perfect and a gift from the heavens.

[Yazkin]

Midnite got cursed :O You need to look up Egyptian Ascention curses.