Ascension Process - Questions and Support

[AngelPsychic444]

Originally Posted by VinceG

What is the importance and significance of a bloodline? I'm unaware as to why protecting such a thing is important and what advantages it offers.

I'm glad to see ChrisL and other's here in this thread are discussing bloodlines, this is really important thing, which also fall's under the heading of some of the most closely guarded secrets on this planet. The "sacred bloodlines", are a very fascinating and very real topic that going to be explosed in the near future.

The ascension bloodlines, as ChrisL called them, is also a really interesting thing... I hope ChrisL can enlighten us more on this!

[Riverstone]

Thank you for all this information
ChrisL.
Is the bloodline still important today?
Also does it specifically have to be the bloodline, or is it anyone in close contact with those that ascended?

[Riverstone]

Originally Posted by AngelPsychic444

I'm glad to see ChrisL and other's here in this thread are discussing bloodlines, this is really important thing, which also fall's under the heading of some of the most closely guarded secrets on this planet. The "sacred bloodlines", are a very fascinating and very real topic that going to be explosed in the near future.

The ascension bloodlines, as ChrisL called them, is also a really interesting thing... I hope ChrisL can enlighten us more on this!

Care to reveal those secrets? Sounds interesting.

[AngelPsychic444]

Originally Posted by Riverstone

Care to reveal those secrets? Sounds interesting.

I am not privy to those secrets, there are some books out there by David Icke where he talks about sacred boodlines, so that's a good source to check out. One of the best places to go to learn of these secrets (in my opinion) is to learn to read the "etheric records" like ChrisL does, you'll find out the real story that way, using any other sources might lead you in the wrong direction, since there's so much misinformation out there about bloodlines.

I do not want to de-rail this thread by talking too much about bloodlines, I will let ChrisL decide which way to go, since he is the orginator of this thread and perhaps it would be best to ask your question's of him, I do not want to hi-jack this at all....I'm sure you understand.

[ChrisL]

Riverstone - All the ascension bloodlines are important for the impact that they have on the planet - consciousness, wisdom, presence, energy. They act as anchors for the collective consciousness, helping to hold a unified vision and acting as guides when solicited.

We all get impacted in a variety of ways, as a body and soul union. We are affected by any conflict from our bloodline (body) that gets passed down into us (i.e. survival and success strategies, unresolved trauma, etc) and we have to work through it. If we have unresolved conflict from other lifetimes (soul), trauma (body), social conditioning which creates self negating behaviors, judgements - all that impacts us, which in turn impacts those around us.

When we gain clarity and shift our consciousness, not only does it affect our genetic bloodline, but also anyone in our soul group (no matter where they are), and anyone who is similar in vibration to where we are in consciousness, and anyone who is physically/emotionally close to us, and all of our lifetimes. This is more of the ripple affect that I talked about earlier, cascading in all kinds of ways. And of course it goes both ways - anytime someone in our genetic family shifts, anyone in our soul group, similar vibration, those close to us, other lifetimes - we are the beneficiary. In fact, any country, religion, group, organization, club, corporation, family we are part of, we share the dynamics of that group. Everything affects everything.

AngelPsychic - Feel free to contribute your questions and wisdom wherever you feel that you can make a contribution! I don't have the carte blanche on this topic and enjoy receiving wisdom for everyone. If it feels like a derailment then we can always shift gears and come back to topic.

Everyone - Rather than write extensive posts like a blog, I tend to offer information when it's asked so that I'm a solicited support and not foisting my experience onto anyone else. And I try to write no longer than is needed for more clarity, or to introduce material that will create more questions. Please feel free to get a variety of discussions going on in here about ascension - this is for everyone.

[Riverstone]

I have heard that enlightenment and ascension affects DNA, is this true? I was wondering whether this is connected to the bloodline thing? Do you know whether there is anyone ascended currently? How often does it happen?

[ChrisL]

Riverstone - Ascension much more than Enlightenment affects the body. Remember that we are a body-soul union, and as we move up the consciousness scale, more of our body and soul are consciously available to us, instead of us being at the mercy of our genetics and circumstances.

Even before enlightenment, we can learn all kinds of techniques to affect or overide our body. With enlightenment, then we have released all of the conflict that was contained in our etheric bodies, that was affecting our physical body (i.e. judgments, guilt, shame, self negation - all the mind chatter). But I still know that we can be affected by genetics and epigenetics (tendencies that come up from genetics because of stress). One guy I know is perfectly enlightened, and still gets skin cancer. So it doesn't mean we are totally unaffected by our genetics, just less.

With ascension, you have totally mastered the physical body and moved beyond the affects of genetics.

There are a ton of ascended masters already out there, and more occuring all the time! Ones that you might know of: Jeshua, Mary (his mother), Buddha, Quan Yin, Moses, St Germain, Lanello, St Katherine, Isis, Horus, Yogananda - pick a culture and timeframe.

[Bluth]

Originally Posted by ChrisL

Even before enlightenment, we can learn all kinds of techniques to affect or overide our body.

Do you mean techniques to keep the body healthy?

[Prasanna]

Originally Posted by ChrisL

Yes there are other options. Instead of ascension, some people have chosen a path where they become what is called a Time Lord or a Time Being. (Smacks of Dr. Who I know. ) This is where we can choose to be an immortal being for a specified period of time, then move onto a different expression. Krishna was an example of this.

Chris,

I've read one of the masters (India), state this, about Krishna - "Krishna was an absolute incarnation. Actually an absolute incarnation is not an incarnation but The Lord Himself; hence it possesses all the characteristics of The Lord." I would like to know your views on this please.

Also, as per the epic - 'MahaBharata', Krishna possessed and displayed super natural powers since infancy itself. I've read in Akashic thread that, to be born enlightened, one's mother is required to be an enlightened being. Does that mean, Krishna's mother (Devaki) was also enlightened ?

Thanks for sharing your 'wisdom' with us so that we can improve our 'knowledge'. I've been reading through 'Akashic thread' for last few days and absolutely amazed, to say the least.

[VinceG]

Chris, how active is the Buddha? I feel that he is, if not completely gone, at least on the cusp of leaving this reality. I don't ever hear of anyone communicating with him. And how 'special' was his ascension, compared to Jeshua's?

[Riverstone]

I meant is there anyone ascended physically this lifetime now? And does it happen like one a year/ decade/ century/ millennia?

[AngelPsychic444]

I found a half-way decent article on Ascension and DNA changes, this might not be new to everyone here, and you have to take this all with a grain of salt, but it's a fun read. I would hope ChrisL, if he has time, could also comment on this, either positive or negative, just to get some insight:

Psychedelic Junction: DNA Change Symptoms : 2012

[ChrisL]

Bluth - Yes techniques to keep the body healthy - through yoga, pranayama methods, etc. And you can see some amazing feats that were learned through yoga and other disciplines, where people have learned to change their relationship not just with their body, but with the planet. When we're born we agree to some basic collective constructs, such as gravity. Once we're here, we can learn how to change our agreements through certain techniques. There are people who levitate, walk through walls, get buried alive and dug up again, don't have to eat, can manifest - the list goes on. And this can be an immense distraction on our path.

Prasanna - You're welcome - glad to be of service when I can. I've always loved the story of Krishna, and there is a great rendition of the Mahabharata with Peter Brooks version that I saw on PBS with an international cast. I'd highly recommend watching it - think it was done in 1989 or so.

I particularly loved the Bhagavad Gita, the talk between Krishna and Arjuna on the battlefield, because it reminds me that a master just wants us to choose path! Which doorway we choose into the temple doesn't really matter overall - just that we choose something. There is a great book by Osho on Krishna that really highlights the various paths.

In a regular incarnation, a person is a body-soul combination, where the soul has projected itself into a certain time-space and uses the body to interact on the planet. Every avatar is still just a divine projection that is happening at a certain time and place, so in that respect, Krishna is the same as Buddha, Jeshua, anyone else.

At a certain stage of consciousness, we become just another representative of Creation, but in our own unique way to make a unique contribution. So in that sense, Krishna was different than anyone else in history - a unique piece of the cosmic puzzle. Was he more special than others - no, just different - but what a demonstration! I don't see any master as being more special as much as unique - that's just my perspective.

Because of the immense energy of an enlightened child, the mother would have to be at least enlightened, or she would die of exhaustion. Mary (Jeshua's mother) actually incarnated several times in the same bloodline to purify the genetics of any conflict, and went through special training to prepare for the time to give birth to Jeshua, otherwise she would have likely died giving birth. Other examples of mother/son ascension bloodlines would include Isis and Horus in Egypt, Plato and his mother in Greece - the list goes on.

Vince - How active is the Buddha? Well he's been putting on weight by sitting on that Barco Lounger watching football and drinking beer - he should get up and use the Stairmaster! What's up with that!

Like many ascended masters, he has been helping out behind the scenes, just as active as anyone else. He is one of those rare souls that has agreed to stay around till everyone is awake.

You hear of more people communicating with, seeing, and modern miracles attributed to Jeshua, because that is part of the cultural mileau. People want to have miracles, see Jeshua, have him interject on their behalf, etc ever since the early days. Jeshua actually set himself up for those people that wanted someone to call upon - becoming a "savior" type of figure for those that needed it.

Buddha is a different story. He isn't a savior figure, he's more of a "do it yourself" kind of guy. His last words were said to have been "Remember, you are a buddha. Be a light unto yourself". So the indoctrination of being a buddhist is vastly different than being a christian. Being a buddhist means that you want to have a direct, personal experience. Not that we can't see or talk or call upon Buddha just like any ascended master, but he is seen as less of an intemediary and more of an example or inspirational figure.

How special was his ascension? For some reason this made me laugh out loud. Well the ascension cake was particularly excellent, but the guy hired to do ballon figures couldn't make a Bodhi tree...

Every ascension is amazing and special - no exceptions. There really is no comparison. One difference in their overall program is that Jeshua/Mary had talked extensively about ascension to the disciples, and everyone knew that was a main goal - to demonstrate ascension as an option for humankind. For Buddha it was simply the next natural step, not that he talked extensively about it. People were more interested in enlightenment in that part of the world, so the Middle Way and the Noble Eightfold Path became an excellent guideline to step beyond suffering. Each master has offered something for the culture at hand, in a way that it could be accepted and used.

Riverstone - Sure there are people ascending in this current timeframe. There will be even more people ascending between 2012 and 2035 when the collective consciousness gets even more unified. I don't have the stats on how often it happens, but for our current timeframe, think of it like popcorn popping or a dam breaking. It's starting off slowly, picking up speed, then always a few left trickling at the end. Hopefully we're not the burnt kernel that got stuck on the bottom!

AngelPsychic - Many times when someone mentions Ascension symptoms, it really is what I've been talking about in the Consciousness Shifting thread. This is more about us releasing conflict to shift our awareness, which can then affect our DNA.

Now having said that, as our consciousness becomes more unified over time, our physical bodies will start changing to reflect that. After about 50 years, we are shifting into a more dominant non-gendered body - there are some already being born now. So the new dominant body will not have a gender - masculine and feminine will still be expressed, just not in the physical way. This might sound fairly strange, but remember, if it's introduced slowly it becomes more digestible.

[SunnyDays]

want to say Thank You Chris for all your time in explaining things and in a way it all comes together and makes so much sense

[AngelPsychic444]

Now having said that, as our consciousness becomes more unified over time, our physical bodies will start changing to reflect that. After about 50 years, we are shifting into a more dominant non-gendered body - there are some already being born now. So the new dominant body will not have a gender - masculine and feminine will still be expressed, just not in the physical way. This might sound fairly strange, but remember, if it's introduced slowly it becomes more digestible.

Interesting idea about the non-gendered body, I've never run across information like that before, but it does fit into the scheme of things from what I have run across as far as the higher chakras beginning to be more dominant. I see this happening now, as our lower chakras (1st, 2nd, 3rd) are starting to become less dominant. People right now are noticing changes in their sexual energies (perhaps feeling lessening of desrie) even though there might be some feeling an increase in this energy for the time being. And this shift will produce a more spiritual being, even though the change will be radical (but as ChrisL said it will be introduced slowly to become more digestable)

It should be interesting to see the massive shifts on a world-wide basis this alone will produce. A simple thing like focusing on our higher chakras, on a personal basis can, can also produce this to some extent.

[VinceG]

Everybody better get out there and have sex while you still can! Send me a PM if any of you lovely ladies are looking for a partner!

Reminds me of that scene in The Matrix where Neo's getting interrogated. "What use is a phone call if you cannot speak?"

[AngelPsychic444]

Originally Posted by VinceG

Everybody better get out there and have sex while you still can! Send me a PM if any of you lovely ladies are looking for a partner!

Reminds me of that scene in The Matrix where Neo's getting interrogated. "What use is a phone call if you cannot speak?"

Of course you're joking and I know you say this in jest, but there still will be sex, just not the intensity we see now, it will be sex from a more balanced and "spiritual" perspective. And I do NOT want to get off-topic and turn this into a sex conversation, so let's keep it about ascension and things like that.

[Bluth]

Thanks again.....

I'll have to find someplace to learn more about these techniques.

Makes me wonder if the 5 Tibetan Rites are legit............

[AngelPsychic444]

Originally Posted by Bluth

Thanks again.....

I'll have to find someplace to learn more about these techniques.

Makes me wonder if the 5 Tibetan Rites are legit............

They are legit, but you have to practice them everyday without skipping any days to get great benefits from them. I knew one guy who practiced them 3 times a day for one month, he said after 30 days he was so shocked to see how much better he felt and also how much more energy he had, he couldn't believe it. 3 times a day is a little bit too much, in my opinion, for someone just starting out with them, but once a day will also give you great benefits.

[Frisky]

Two questions, please:

1. Now that I've "mastered" LOA, whats my next step in ascension??
2. What do you think of the claims on this website: The Halls of Amenti

Some of their claims I believe, others I cant believe no matter how hard I try (like hollow earth...I mean come on )

[Bluth]

Originally Posted by AngelPsychic444

They are legit, but you have to practice them everyday without skipping any days to get great benefits from them. I knew one guy who practiced them 3 times a day for one month, he said after 30 days he was so shocked to see how much better he felt and also how much more energy he had, he couldn't believe it. 3 times a day is a little bit too much, in my opinion, for someone just starting out with them, but once a day will also give you great benefits.

I did them once a day for a few months and initially I felt better but once I got to the full 21 reps the benefits waned.

There was a book written about the Rites in the 30's or 40's I believe, where it was said that an old man became young again, and that the author is still alive because of the Rites.

[Prasanna]

Thanks Chris, for the detailed explanation. It is always a treat to read your posts. Same with other senior members like Midnite

[cheesedip1]

1. We've all had lifetimes as the "victim", " hero", and the "bad guy". I'm guessing this means that we've all had lifetimes where we killed someone? (including Jesus killing someone in an early incarnation).

2. In the beginning, were some souls like Jesus more aware than the rest?(Able to see the bigger picture) When souls first came to the earth plane?

3. Did that one event take place with Jesus being baptized and John saying "I need to be baptized by you. And yet you are coming to me?"

[ChrisL]

SunnyDays - You're very welcome. This whole process is more of a dance with everyone, where each person is absolutely essential to help everyone else. I don't want this to be just an intellectual exercise, but more alive. I care less about whether people are agreeing with what I say, and more about people becoming curious about knowing themselves, rediscovering themselves, seeing life from a different perspective, encouraging themselves to experience life in a different way, contributing with their own experience, bringing out the truth in others.

AngelPsychic and Vince - There you go Vince! You're actually helping the women transform! I'm sure you can find the right advertising to produce the results you want.

Actually there are people who are really feeling sexual right now, perhaps because they have internal conflict and simply want some relief from feeling it, perhaps because they have had other lifetimes/or this life where they have repressed their sexual desires, but some people have incarnated because they know this is the last big party to play in seperation before the unity shift. It's like Mardi Gras. And in general, to have the experience of collective separation before it's over. People are trying to focus on anything that is incomplete, and that can take them up and down the chakras.

Frisky - Your next step always depends on your intention. What's your intention? If you've mastered LoA, then you're getting everything that you want exactly when you want it. There is no desire unfufilled. And if that's the case, then you're already moving effortlessly up the consciousness ladder.

I didn't go through the entire website, but like a lot of sites like that, there is some fact and some opinion. You're right, the earth isn't hollow. What do you think about the information posted there?

Bluth - The 5 Tibetan rites are legitimate, and there is a 6th one that is useful if you don't have a sexual partner. There are chi techniques to stay younger.

Prasanna - You're very welcome. Please keep contributing to the discussion and your own internal exploration so that others may benefit.

Cheesedip - You're right - we've all played the variety of roles over our lifetimes, just like when we switched roles when we played games as kids. I don't know if we've all had lifetimes where we've killed someone, and I don't know if Jeshua ever did in any of his lives.

In the beginning we simply wanted a animal like form to experience on the planet and over time we worked out the kinks to change our bodies into what we see today. The vision of the human experience has always been carried throughout time - no less or more than it was in the first moment. Knowing souls have always existed from our first moment here to the last moment of the human experience. The experience of the collective consciousness however, has shifted back and forth, from less conscious to more conscious and back again. That gives us a great range of personal and group experience.

So in the greater picture, we ourselves are just as wise, powerful, loving, spiritually adept as Jeshua or anyone else. In fact it was Jeshua who said "You will do all of this and more", meaning that he was very limited as to what he could do back then, and that we would have even more leeway in the future, moving beyond his demonstration with our own.

Yes the Baptism event did actually happen. John was an enlightened mystic and recognized that he was able to work with the crowd up to a certain point, and that Jeshua would be more adept at taking the reins and continuing on. John was encouraging his disciples to go over to Jeshua.

We need to consider the context of the times. Many people were attracted to John because he was fiery - he was thought to be someone who could be a rebel leader and finally get the Romans out of Judea. Jeshua was meek and mild - not at all what some people considered to be a leader of the people. So there were mixed feelings of some people to make the transition, depending on what their intention/agenda was. And there where many people who had claimed to be the Messiah over time, so there was confusion as to whom to follow.

John's endorsement of Jeshua, including the Baptismal scene, was like handing over the mantle to him and saying "This is really the guy. Follow him." Because John had a large following, and people believed and trusted him, his endorsement helped more people open up to Jeshua, at a time when people like the Zealots just wanted to kill the Romans, not turn the other cheek.

[Bluth]

Are any of these chi techniques readily available on the internet?

[ChrisL]

Bluth - There are a ton of techniques already out there - you just need to find what works for you. A great place to start is Iyengar's "Light on Pranayama", which is considered a great standard for pranayama work. Yogananda also had some great breathing techniques. There are breathing techniques that are also given through spiritual paths - zen, buddhist, sufi, esoteric christian - and there are various books/websites out there with those also.

Holotropic breathwork is perhaps one of the most amazing breathing techniques because it releases our conflict on the etheric level so that it doesn't permeate to the physical level.

[Frisky]

Originally Posted by ChrisL

I didn't go through the entire website, but like a lot of sites like that, there is some fact and some opinion. You're right, the earth isn't hollow. What do you think about the information posted there?

Here's what I believe and dont believe re: this site: The Halls of Amenti

BELIEVE:

(Anti)-Aging
Akashic Records
Alchemy
The AntiChrist
Area 51
Ascended Master
Ascension Process
Astral Plane/body/world...etc
Aura
Chakras
Cosmic Law
Emerald Tablets
Ghosts
Light Quotient
The Lower Astral (just another word for "hell")
Meditation
Negativity (which is simply opposite of LOA)
Negative E.T.’s
Spirit Guides
Suffering (I believe life should not be suffering)

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DONT BELIEVE IN:

Admiral Byrd’s Diary
Agartha Network/Agarthans
Atlantis
Edgar Cayce
Deros
Hollow earth
The Faustian Bargain
Lemuria
Maldec
Starseeds

All the others on that webpage I'm not sure about

[Bluth]

Originally Posted by ChrisL

Bluth - There are a ton of techniques already out there - you just need to find what works for you. A great place to start is Iyengar's "Light on Pranayama", which is considered a great standard for pranayama work. Yogananda also had some great breathing techniques. There are breathing techniques that are also given through spiritual paths - zen, buddhist, sufi, esoteric christian - and there are various books/websites out there with those also.

Holotropic breathwork is perhaps one of the most amazing breathing techniques because it releases our conflict on the etheric level so that it doesn't permeate to the physical level.

Thats awesome, thanks!

You wouldn't happen to be familiar with the 20 connected breaths and what its used for would you?

[Midnite]

Bloodlines are a very interesting thing here on Earth. It is a very well known fact that our DNA may determine what psychic abilities people may experience more predominantly than others. What isn't well known is why somebody may be experiencing a particular psychic ability with no previous intentional stimulation or want to experience any psychic ability in the first place.

What is more interesting is that approximately 14% of the planet has ET DNA (or that which does not represent a 'normal' human being DNA composition). That's about 840M people who have some form of advanced genetic structure that is allowing psychic ability to come through. Some genetic compositions (bloodlines) are slightly more advantageous than others, meaning there is a much higher likelihood that those people in such bloodlines have a natural advantage over many others in a seemingly "equal" world. Those advantageous bloodlines are very heavily guarded against just anybody reincarnating into them, and often have a sort of cause they come back to Earth to consistently work on over multiple lives. It's like a game where you spend one life getting so far, then you sign off (death) and let someone else on your team (soul group) pick up where you left off. Eventually the game will keep being worked at by your team until the desired outcome is achieved.

In terms of Ascension, let's just say that there are certain bloodlines that are here for the promotion of it, and there are other bloodlines who are here to try and stall it or corrupt it.

In terms of sex, I agree with Vince. Let's all have fantastically wild and physically mind blowing sex before it gets 'numbed down' with the whole spiritual thing.... Talk about a turn in the wrong direction, which genius decided to put this one together?

[AngelPsychic444]

In terms of sex, I agree with Vince. Let's all have fantastically wild and physically mind blowing sex before it gets 'numbed down' with the whole spiritual thing.... Talk about a turn in the wrong direction, which genius decided to put this one together?

That genious was YOU! Before you were born you put this whole thing together, now you berate yourself for thinking of it...tsk, tsk....think again!...lol