How does someone ascend?

[Lukas]

I didn't find it in the manual, my doctor also had no idea.

(Serious interest, serious question!)

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Lukas

I didn't find it in the manual, my doctor also had no idea.

(Serious interest, serious question!)

First off, what do you mean when you say "ascend"? Many people use the same words and mean completely things, so let's figure out what definition you are referring to and then we'll get down to the mechanics.

[Lukas]

So far I know it's about changing your vibratory rate as a being so you don't have to go through the death process.

What is your understanding?

[AngelPsychic444]

There's a book out I read long ago, that does a pretty good job of explaining the whole process of ascension. I don't know if you can call this THE definative work on ascension but it will give you a good general idea, it's called The Ascension Handbook. It's also a channeled book, so all the ideas are coming from Spirit which is the best way to go when dealing with this particular subject.

Amazon.com: An Ascension Handbook: Material Channeled from Serapis (9780962720932): Tony Stubbs: Books

"Every one of us will ascend. But first, we must break old patterns, sever from the consensus reality, and alighn with Spirit. The goal is full awareness of our unity with the Source by increasing the frequency of our energy bodies until we emerge as self-realized Masters, fully conscious on the higher dimensions. Filled with exercises and techniques, AN ASCENSION HANDBOOK is a practical "how to" manual for ascending Lightworkers."

After searching I found another book that looks good, I have not read this one but it also is a channeld book on how ascension works, called Dossier On The Ascension.

http://www.amazon.com/Dossier-Ascens...ref=pd_sim_b_2

"A profound look into the life of the soul, her purpose and destiny. Serapis Bey shows that the soul's reunion with God through the ascension is the goal of life for all. He gives practical keys for spiritual growth that can lead to the attainment of the ascension. The author answers the ultimate questions about life after death."

[Moriarty]

Originally Posted by Lukas

I didn't find it in the manual, my doctor also had no idea.

(Serious interest, serious question!)

Ascend to what?!

[Midnite]

Lukas I believe it is unfortunately about timing and being ready for the process as a whole rather than just deciding you want to do it one day. "Ascesion" may take quite a few lifetimes on end depending on what kind of conflicts and beliefs you hold. If you are here right now living in this lifetime, there is a very good chance you are already an advocate. I have wanted to ascend for quite a while, however it seems I am stuck here until I fulfil some duties that require my services.

It will be a lot easier to ascend in 5 years than it will today. The spiritual world is blending onto the physical, your answers will come much more naturally then.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Lukas

So far I know it's about changing your vibratory rate as a being so you don't have to go through the death process.

What is your understanding?

Well, that's true. Then again, I suppose you could also think of it as a speeded up and deliberate death process, depending how far you "ascend" .

It's a very real thing though. Essentially, what ascension is is consciously raising your vibrations high enough, while in the physical body, that you actually transcend the physicality that you are familiar with and find yourself in a faster, less dense, state of existence. You take your physical body with you, basically.

There are faster planes of existence that are still composed of matter, but it is not the same vibrations you are familiar with in the 3D physical world as you know it. It is a lighter, more energetic, more refined matter. Many extraterrestrials (at least, most of the ones that go zooming about the universe) exist at this level of physicality -- which is one of the ways they are even able to travel about (because the relationship between time and space is "looser" in higher densities). They have technology to lower their vibrations and come into our slower vibrating density when they want or need to.

However, because it is not their native vibrational vicinity, these visits are always temporary. Extended stays are somewhat painful. It would be like trying to condense a tornado in a bottle. Too slow for their consciousness.

You could actually think of the Earth as being seven Earths -- seven densities of existence. Each density is vibrating at a specific rate and is a particular balance of the ethereal and material. In the lower densities their is more material than ethereal, and as you go up it becomes more ethereal than material. We currently exist in the 3rd density. 4th density is interesting because it is an equal commingling of spirit and matter. That is the destination of most who "ascend" from 3rd density. But some do go higher, if they can. With each increasing density, the strain on the soul energy becomes less. Thus, it easier to exist in the 2nd than the 1st, and easier to exist in the 3rd than the 2nd, and easier in the 4th than the 3rd, and so on.

Ascension is a gradual process. To do it, you first have the desire, the intent, and belief that it is possible. You can't change your vibration instantaneously to something you are not familiar with. You only have access to thoughts in your current vibrational range. But all that is necessary is a willingness to allow the energy to raise up, and a faith that it is happening. And it will. You just send your intent out like a satellite probe, just knowing it will become what it is you intend. Over time, you will notice the higher vibration reflecting itself in your life, in your behavior, in your health and mental state. Your diet may change.

There is a transformation coming up for humanity which is like a wave of expanded consciousness. Well, actually, the wave is happening, we just haven't hit the crest of it yet. The consciousness of the planet will polarize in such a way that some are going to raise their consciousness to the point where there will be a good portion of the Earth's population (not the majority most likely) that will actually ascend to 4th density. Many will not, and it's fine. It's all just a spiritual game anyhow. It will be a new Earth.

[Lukas]

Originally Posted by AngelPsychic444

There's a book out I read long ago, that does a pretty good job of explaining the whole process of ascension. I don't know if you can call this THE definative work on ascension but it will give you a good general idea, it's called The Ascension Handbook. It's also a channeled book, so all the ideas are coming from Spirit which is the best way to go when dealing with this particular subject.

Amazon.com: An Ascension Handbook: Material Channeled from Serapis (9780962720932): Tony Stubbs: Books

"Every one of us will ascend. But first, we must break old patterns, sever from the consensus reality, and alighn with Spirit. The goal is full awareness of our unity with the Source by increasing the frequency of our energy bodies until we emerge as self-realized Masters, fully conscious on the higher dimensions. Filled with exercises and techniques, AN ASCENSION HANDBOOK is a practical "how to" manual for ascending Lightworkers."

After searching I found another book that looks good, I have not read this one but it also is a channeld book on how ascension works, called Dossier On The Ascension.

http://www.amazon.com/Dossier-Ascens...ref=pd_sim_b_2

"A profound look into the life of the soul, her purpose and destiny. Serapis Bey shows that the soul's reunion with God through the ascension is the goal of life for all. He gives practical keys for spiritual growth that can lead to the attainment of the ascension. The author answers the ultimate questions about life after death."

Thank you for your input AngelPsychic444, I'll keep those books in my mind if I feel attracted to any books again. I sometimes wish these masters just could pop in and assist us if needed

[Lukas]

Originally Posted by Moriarty

Ascend to what?!

To an expanded experience of your own consciousness, I think this can include much!

[Lukas]

Originally Posted by Midnite

Lukas I believe it is unfortunately about timing and being ready for the process as a whole rather than just deciding you want to do it one day. "Ascesion" may take quite a few lifetimes on end depending on what kind of conflicts and beliefs you hold. If you are here right now living in this lifetime, there is a very good chance you are already an advocate. I have wanted to ascend for quite a while, however it seems I am stuck here until I fulfil some duties that require my services.

It will be a lot easier to ascend in 5 years than it will today. The spiritual world is blending onto the physical, your answers will come much more naturally then.

Timing is a really good word. Thanks for your words.

[Lukas]

Originally Posted by Anagogy

Well, that's true. Then again, I suppose you could also think of it as a speeded up and deliberate death process, depending how far you "ascend" .

It's a very real thing though. Essentially, what ascension is is consciously raising your vibrations high enough, while in the physical body, that you actually transcend the physicality that you are familiar with and find yourself in a faster, less dense, state of existence. You take your physical body with you, basically.

There are faster planes of existence that are still composed of matter, but it is not the same vibrations you are familiar with in the 3D physical world as you know it. It is a lighter, more energetic, more refined matter. Many extraterrestrials (at least, most of the ones that go zooming about the universe) exist at this level of physicality -- which is one of the ways they are even able to travel about (because the relationship between time and space is "looser" in higher densities). They have technology to lower their vibrations and come into our slower vibrating density when they want or need to.

However, because it is not their native vibrational vicinity, these visits are always temporary. Extended stays are somewhat painful. It would be like trying to condense a tornado in a bottle. Too slow for their consciousness.

You could actually think of the Earth as being seven Earths -- seven densities of existence. Each density is vibrating at a specific rate and is a particular balance of the ethereal and material. In the lower densities their is more material than ethereal, and as you go up it becomes more ethereal than material. We currently exist in the 3rd density. 4th density is interesting because it is an equal commingling of spirit and matter. That is the destination of most who "ascend" from 3rd density. But some do go higher, if they can. With each increasing density, the strain on the soul energy becomes less. Thus, it easier to exist in the 2nd than the 1st, and easier to exist in the 3rd than the 2nd, and easier in the 4th than the 3rd, and so on.

Ascension is a gradual process. To do it, you first have the desire, the intent, and belief that it is possible. You can't change your vibration instantaneously to something you are not familiar with. You only have access to thoughts in your current vibrational range. But all that is necessary is a willingness to allow the energy to raise up, and a faith that it is happening. And it will. You just send your intent out like a satellite probe, just knowing it will become what it is you intend. Over time, you will notice the higher vibration reflecting itself in your life, in your behavior, in your health and mental state. Your diet may change.

There is a transformation coming up for humanity which is like a wave of expanded consciousness. Well, actually, the wave is happening, we just haven't hit the crest of it yet. The consciousness of the planet will polarize in such a way that some are going to raise their consciousness to the point where there will be a good portion of the Earth's population (not the majority most likely) that will actually ascend to 4th density. Many will not, and it's fine. It's all just a spiritual game anyhow. It will be a new Earth.

Are you indicating that some people will 'ascend' through the physical death process?

With these densities, my understanding is that we come with winter solstice 2012 to a track switch were all these possible realities begin to diverge and we choose depending on our intentions and vibratory rate on which track we will fare - so there will not be an instantaneous shift in densities? Relating to Et's is that intending to say we can change our vibratory rate and thus density level at some point?

I'm not even sure why I'm interested in all of these, it's more that I get shaken awake in all intense ways possible and beside integrating all that I want to make sense of what is happening.

Thank You Anagogy!

[Faceless]

Originally Posted by Anagogy

There is a transformation coming up for humanity which is like a wave of expanded consciousness. Well, actually, the wave is happening, we just haven't hit the crest of it yet. The consciousness of the planet will polarize in such a way that some are going to raise their consciousness to the point where there will be a good portion of the Earth's population (not the majority most likely) that will actually ascend to 4th density. Many will not, and it's fine. It's all just a spiritual game anyhow. It will be a new Earth.

Is it really though? I've read that the people who remain on 3rd density Earth will basically be living in a Hell on Earth (loss of personal freedom, global mind control, mass surveillance, genocide etc.) I've read that living on 3rd density Earth will be absolutely horrible, and that people who have not met the spiritual deadline or take the Mark of the Beast (supposed to be some kind of microchip) will be subjected to not only physical, but spiritual slavery from which there may not be an escape. Is it possible for a soul to be enslaved forever, to basically be in an eternal Hell with no possibility of ever getting out?

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Lukas

Are you indicating that some people will 'ascend' through the physical death process?

Well, I wasn't intending to convey that, but yes, you're right. Many people who are ready to step up in density will just die and then reincarnate in 4th density bodies. That is the plan some entities have chosen for themselves, which is their path of least resistance. This is the normal evolutionary process. The difference with this wave of consciousness is that those who are ready don't necessarily have to physically die, they can just transition to 4th density, altering their molecular structure in such a way that they can exist there.

Those who still need to work through lessons of 3rd density negativity will reincarnate on planets still going through those awareness lessons. 3rd density Earth will go on in activation for some time, but will eventually become deactivated, and be repopulated at some point in the future.

Originally Posted by Lukas

With these densities, my understanding is that we come with winter solstice 2012 to a track switch were all these possible realities begin to diverge and we choose depending on our intentions and vibratory rate on which track we will fare - so there will not be an instantaneous shift in densities?

Well it may not happen at that exact time. Timing is tricky to pin down, because its tied to the mass consciousness. Not everyone will transition at the same time. Some will go faster than others. There are always those on the forefront, the leading edge, who will make their transition. Actually, there are some who have been aware enough to make the transition without this wave even. There have been many groups down through the ages who were able to, as a group, ascend to 4th density by living in the light and not engaging in separating actions. The energies that are increasing in intensity at this time are simply going to make it easier for this phenomenon to occur. It is having, and will continue to have, a polarizing effect on people. They will either be compelled to raise in vibration or they will get even more negative.

The difference between the groups seeking spirit consciously and those wallowing in baser physicality, will get more and more pronounced and defined.

Originally Posted by Lukas

Relating to Et's is that intending to say we can change our vibratory rate and thus density level at some point?

Yes. You just have to raise the vibrations of your body to the point where it is compatible with 4th density and you are there. You are always gravitating to a space compatible with the vibration you are emitting. That's not to say it is an easy transition though. As you approach the threshold between one density and another there is a good bit of resistance to overcome.

Originally Posted by Faceless

Is it really though? I've read that the people who remain on 3rd density Earth will basically be living in a Hell on Earth (loss of personal freedom, global mind control, mass surveillance, genocide etc.) I've read that living on 3rd density Earth will be absolutely horrible, and that people who have not met the spiritual deadline or take the Mark of the Beast (supposed to be some kind of microchip) will be subjected to not only physical, but spiritual slavery from which there may not be an escape.

Those are possibilities, yes. But it doesn't have to be that way. We do create our own realities, even though it may not seem like it at times. Anybody, at anytime, has it within them to transcend suffering and see a broader perspective. There just has to be the willingness and the faith to do so.

Originally Posted by Faceless

Is it possible for a soul to be enslaved forever, to basically be in an eternal Hell with no possibility of ever getting out?

No, it is not possible. The higher densities generally operate under a prime directive of non interference, but if free will became seriously abridged I assure you they would step in and alter the situation. As I said, it is not as bad as it sounds. It's all a spiritual illusion and it doesn't seem so dire and scary when you are in the spirit world looking down. If the game becomes imbalanced, the programmers step in and rebalance the illusion. And that aside, a soul wouldn't be trapped in the physical indefinitely. The soul cannot be confined.

[ChrisL]

Anagogy - You seem to have a very clear understanding of ascension and what will be happening. It's not often that I find someone with such a clear perspective on this. I'm in agreement with most of what you said on your last post - well said. Thanks for your clarity, encouragement, wisdom and support!

Lukas - I know it would be cool if an ascended master just suddenly appeared to help us, and it might also create more trouble. One thing that happens if you're around that kind of consciousness, is that all your conflict comes to the forefront. Even if the ascended masters don't pop in physically, they are always being supportive behind the scenes at a pace that is set by you. You can always connect with them through prayer/meditation for whatever you need.

The Winter Solstice of 2012 was pegged by the Mayans as the line in the sand for shifting the collective consciousness toward unification, but collectively we could be having a major shift anytime from this Winter Solstice (2011) onward. Individually we can always shift whenever we want, so don't put too much stock in any kind of absolute date. The collective is shifting so much that it's difficult to pinpoint dates even in the Akashic Records.

Faceless - Anagogy has beautifully stated how we create our reality and how our willingness helps us to shift. We don't have to wait for a certain date for life to be a heaven/hell - each one of us will attract our circumstances to us in each moment, right now. This means that we can change in a moment.

Each one of us is a powerful, sovereign soul, and nothing can have power over us unless we choose to give our power away. Various mystics have tried telling us that we cannot even be killed if we truly don't want to be. Jeshua said to Pilate "You would have no power over me if it had not been given to you", meaning that no one has power over anyone unless we give it to them.

The more we are willing to know ourselves, love and accept ourselves, our consciousness start shifting. When we can see everything and everyone as sacred, even if they are seemingly "against" us, then our consciousness shifts. Even if you were to stay in a 3rd dimensional reality say for the next 10 years, you would still be able to shift and awaken out of that into the 4th dimensional state. As a matter of fact, there will be people going around helping others do just that after the collective shift into unification.

Even in places like hell, there isn't some outside entity that controls us (unless we want there to be) - we trap ourselves. Just look at life now - we can get caught up in our own thoughts, emotions, power games, judgements, etc. The great news is that we can always change, and there is always support available.

[Lukas]

Anagogy, thank you very much! Your posts give me a fundament when I relate it to other information and feels about right.

Looking at your avatar, can you roughly explain what the tree of life is about, this has been following me, is it mostly symbolic or does it have more substance in reality?

Chris, I understand about the differences in frequencies and consciousness and how it triggers the stuff in ourselves, I'm in there. On the other hand - wouldn't this make visible that the conflict and perspectives we virtually impose on everything else are inside us ... and encourage us to look in the right place for solutions? For the timing, threshold would be maybe a useful term for next year. Thank you for throwing something into the discussion.

I've two a little bit more eccentric but honest questions regarding ascension if you don't mind.
How do we affect our and the collective process of ascension if we were to chose in the near future to go off planet, for periods of time to places with less or even more conflict than on earth. Is it more bound to planetary cycles and thus from case to case different?
Is it probable that if you were to spend (quality) time with 'soulmates' or a 'twinflame' that it has an impact on the ascension process?