Can the lower astral plane be destroyed?

[Midwinter Mist]

Whenever people speak of evil entities, negative energy, etc., the suggestion given to them is more or less the same.

Use white light and positive energy.

White light and positive energy seem to be so strong that no negative forces can survive when confronted by them. Based on my own life, I would have guessed that negative energy was just as powerful, but it seems as though white light and positive energy are the most powerful things in the astral realm (if I'm to believe everything I read).

That being said, if these things are so powerful, is it not possible for hoards of positive and angelic beings to combine their energies and eliminate the lower plane? Or is the lower plane something that just 'is' and cannot be removed? In the lower plane, is it more difficult to create positive energy and white light?

[Midnite]

Originally Posted by Midwinter Mist

Whenever people speak of evil entities, negative energy, etc., the suggestion given to them is more or less the same.

Use white light and positive energy.

White light and positive energy seem to be so strong that no negative forces can survive when confronted by them. Based on my own life, I would have guessed that negative energy was just as powerful, but it seems as though white light and positive energy are the most powerful things in the astral realm (if I'm to believe everything I read).

That being said, if these things are so powerful, is it not possible for hoards of positive and angelic beings to combine their energies and eliminate the lower plane? Or is the lower plane something that just 'is' and cannot be removed? In the lower plane, is it more difficult to create positive energy and white light?

White light and positive energy isn't the solution to all of life's problems. One may get rid of the negative entity, however I ask you something; why was the negative entity attracted in the first place? This is the real question that needs to be resolved if you are to truly move on from the situation.

The lower astrals will never be 'destroyed'. The Duality is as much of this Universe as any other aspect. It is as natural as the Sun rising in the morning or the Moon setting at night. There is nothing to be removed when you consider that everything is One.

In any case, I seriously doubt a band of vigilante Angels would have the power to overthrow some of the beings roaming around down there.

[wstein]

You seem to be under the false impression that the lower (lowest?) astral plane is the source of ‘dark’ and ‘negative’.

Your suggestion does not pass the common sense test. It’s like suggesting destroying the Earth because it is the source of all ‘bad’ people.

Planes are not easily destroyed. If you really want to go that way, destroying the offending source of negativity would be a far better way to go.

[Midwinter Mist]

Originally Posted by wstein

You seem to be under the false impression that the lower (lowest?) astral plane is the source of ‘dark’ and ‘negative’.

Your suggestion does not pass the common sense test. It’s like suggesting destroying the Earth because it is the source of all ‘bad’ people.

Planes are not easily destroyed. If you really want to go that way, destroying the offending source of negativity would be a far better way to go.

You often make false assumptions, including in another topic I posted, misunderstanding me. I have no interest in destroying anything. I was simply asking if such a thing is possible. I wouldn't assume that, as you put it, destroying Earth would be the answer to a certain problem. I was merely looking for answers/opinions to a curious thought that doesn't actually serve me either way.

[wstein]

Originally Posted by Midwinter Mist

You often make false assumptions, including in another topic I posted, misunderstanding me. I have no interest in destroying anything. I was simply asking if such a thing is possible. I wouldn't assume that, as you put it, destroying Earth would be the answer to a certain problem. I was merely looking for answers/opinions to a curious thought that doesn't actually serve me either way.

I did not assume you actually wanted anything destroyed. Destroying the Earth is an analogy to what you said, interpretation.

Why not just ask the question, why add all the irrelevant stuff about ‘evil entities’, ‘negative energy’, ‘white light’, ‘positive energy’? I was trying to answer the question as asked.

Maybe your question is really “are the light or dark forces strong enough to destroy a plane?”

Originally Posted by Midwinter Mist

I was simply asking if such a thing is possible.

Yes. But, not necessarily in the way you think of it. Trying to go there and take it down piece by piece might be doable but probably not. As indicated in other threads, things here cannot be created or destroyed from within, only rearranged or transformed (matter<-->energy). The astral planes are a little bit malleable so it might be possible to destroy them??

It can be done from two ‘levels’ above, the same level that made it possible to be created. Think of the ‘level’ above as manifesting a possibility into actuality. Two ‘levels’ above is where the possibility of its existence is created. Removing that possibility means that it’s not possible for it to exist and thus it doesn’t. There are memories in my over-soul of this being done to a plane (not an astral plane).

[Midwinter Mist]

Originally Posted by wstein

Why not just ask the question, why add all the irrelevant stuff about ‘evil entities’, ‘negative energy’, ‘white light’, ‘positive energy’? I was trying to answer the question as asked.

When I create topics, I can sum them up with simple questions, but I like to go just a little deeper to express my thoughts and to try and give a bit more as that's just how I am. But I don't see how those things are irrelevant when they are the core of the topic. You may not think so, but I created the topic. I know what I was writing about.

At first, I was more or less considering how I only ever hear people talk about white light and positive energy when faced with the opposition. I never hear of anything different, yet I do always hear that these things are enough. That being the case, I wondered why it is then that these negative forces remain so dominant, and my thoughts expanded from there. What if two realms with opposing energies came into some form of 'battle', for example. I drifted around thoughts.

Anyway, often when I ask things, I ask through curiosity. The fact remains that I don't 100% believe in any of this stuff or anything else in the world, but I like to consider all possibilities. I then try to take a perspective of how these things could affect me and so forth.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Midwinter Mist

Whenever people speak of evil entities, negative energy, etc., the suggestion given to them is more or less the same.

Use white light and positive energy.

White light and positive energy seem to be so strong that no negative forces can survive when confronted by them.

Well, it doesn't actually kill them. And it is not because it is strong that it repels them (even though it is strong). It repels them because it is not compatible with their vibrational nature. It would be like if you hated the smell of cinnamon and I dumped a ton of cinnamon scent in your general vicinity. Would you want to stay? Probably not. It would be pretty unpleasant.

White light has a vibrational nature that makes lower vibrational natures sick to their stomachs. Love and light make them want to vomit.

Originally Posted by Midwinter Mist

Based on my own life, I would have guessed that negative energy was just as powerful, but it seems as though white light and positive energy are the most powerful things in the astral realm (if I'm to believe everything I read).

That being said, if these things are so powerful, is it not possible for hoards of positive and angelic beings to combine their energies and eliminate the lower plane? Or is the lower plane something that just 'is' and cannot be removed? In the lower plane, is it more difficult to create positive energy and white light?

Nothing can really be destroyed, only displaced within the illusion of time. Portions of the creator cannot be lost. The lower planes are just an amassing of thought of a certain vibrational threshold. They are not negative, only negative to those with an incompatible vibrational nature. For those of that vibratory nature, it could be quite pleasant.

One man's hell is another man's heaven.