What abilities in particular fascinate you?

[Lukas]

Yeah, it can be a distraction, like everything else that provides an opportunity for ignorance.

The other side of this coin is sometimes hard, I guess there are people who would like to talk about their experiences but don't do it because it wouldn't be appropriate.

The abilities in isolation I don't find fascinating, it feels like natural modality where everyone has his biases.

The blending of physical reality and the rest is what fascinates me in this context, to live a life to the fullest and rub that color off on everything you do. Every ability becomes a natural byproduct, which then has no relevance to your state of being anymore.

[Weena]

Originally Posted by VinceG

People are meant to explore different things through different lifetimes. Guides facilitate this. People generally make these choices before they incarnate.

makes me grateful for what I can already do, thanks for this reminder.

Originally Posted by Lukas

I guess there are people who would like to talk about their experiences but don't do it because it wouldn't be appropriate.

Well yes, it's hard to share "some" stuff with others who would not understand. I have one experience that I only have shared fully with an other friend who has the exact same one...she suggested that more of us have these experiences but don't want to share because of fearing to be called "insane".

Originally Posted by momo3bur

Awww...Weena! Slorri is wonderful isn't she!? I'm so glad she found your ring!

I would say AP, RVing, claireaudience, -voyance, -sentience, and mediumship are definitely interests for me. I'm not too concerned about dark working or magic (or magick??) or any of those other things. The above seem more real to me simply because I've experienced them at one time or another, some more than others.

Doesn't mean I believe they don't exist, just don't appeal to me in this lifetime, I suppose.

She is. I feel the same about the dark arts and magic. Perhaps in past of future incarnation I'll get into but right now I could not care less. I even gifted a crystal book to a friend because I thought it was about healing but it turned out to be Wicca and spells, which is something I just am not interested in. To me (that's just for me, others may experience it an other way) it feels like spells is a way to try hard to force things to happen. I'd rather pray and accept the outcome that is best for me.

[raykilleen]

Clarity amongst the murkiness

[Lukas]

@Weena, yes it's good to meet like-minded people and finally share that you are perfectly sane. The fear of being judged is a theme for everyone, isn't it.

Just in case you have something that don't leave you sitting in peace you can catch me on skype, I'm familiar with the wildest!

[Weena]

Originally Posted by Lukas

@Weena, yes it's good to meet like-minded people and finally share that you are perfectly sane. The fear of being judged is a theme for everyone, isn't it.

Just in case you have something that don't leave you sitting in peace you can catch me on skype, I'm familiar with the wildest!

Thank you lovely, I'm totally fine with these experiences, they are not freaky at all to me, I just don't share it because I prefer to talk about it with people who experience it too, but I'll tell you in pm what it is

[DayDream]

Frosting- I have experienced the same. I read a book about AP and now it happens randomly. Glad to know I am not the only one who experienced that.

[Midnite]

What most 'fascinates' me is the Dark Arts. In terms of what I am trying to accomplish: Levitation, Telekinesis, Resurrection, and near-instant Manifestation.

[HiImJeremy]

Doesn't it become very interesting when we have discussions like this?

You've all brought up wonderful points. I am a big believer in staying grounded. This section of the forum in particular falls victim to it from time to time.

My goal here was to help support those of us who are working on some of the above mentioned things, propose ideas and experiences.

I'd also like to just quickly note someone talking about ego - i think it was chris from memory. It's a big issue.

None of the above mentioned abilities make you more special than anyone else. I have seen people in real life who do this, and i was the victim of someone like this once. We'll say i learnt exactly what NOT to do lol.

In it's most basic form - a psychic is someone who can send and recieve information. You're still human, for now anyway, and you still have a life to live. That's not to say that your spirituality can't be a big part of your life - it just takes awareness that, you do need relationships, you do need to eat and drink and survive. At the end of the day, everyone needs to do a S**t.

With that in mind, i find it interesting that astral projection and healing is so popular. I may have to trial astral projection and write about it here. I could probably also write about healing and i'm sure a lot of us have many interesting things to say about it.

[Lukas]

Thank you too for elaborating, Jeremy.

I'd go further and say your abilities are even in some ways depending on your grounding and closing the circuit so to speak.

This can have many forms.
The way you are putting the information to use to live your life will pretty much determine the information you get through your abilities. When you are putting the information to use and stay interested in living your life the information can become incredibly concrete as also the experiences.
Many forms of medium-ship will be dependent on if you have people asking questions or if you are looking for entertainment.

Much of life that people are looking to transcend is created anyway to finally face it with integrity, what actually is painful is not living what you are looking for, to stay under the illusion of power instead of using the power of illusion

My experience is that when you remove the blinders in your life, the other blinders also will be removed and make you aware of some new adventures! And if there's no adventure - what is it then?

[momo3bur]

Originally Posted by HiImJeremy

At the end of the day, everyone needs to do a S**t.

This is why I love you to pieces.

[frosting]

Originally Posted by DayDream

Frosting- I have experienced the same. I read a book about AP and now it happens randomly. Glad to know I am not the only one who experienced that.

No problem. My hypothesis is there is so much to do with tapping into your subconscious and "fiddlin with it" so to speak, reading a well written book on certain topics helps to do the "fiddlin" for some people. Of course I didn't realize this till after the fact! : o ) Now, I wonder if a kindle would have the same effect? Meh, I like my real books. I can drop them from a rooftop, dogtag the pages, if I spill water on one I'll just let them dry out... almost as good as new. Wrinkles add character!

[ChrisL]

Weena - We all astral project when we're asleep. And some people can do it more consciously than others - whether awake or asleep. We can have an OBE for a variety of reasons, and one experience that can be the initial setup for an OBE is some form of trauma - i.e. car accident, physical or sexual abuse, war, etc. In this case, it is us literally trying to escape from an unsafe scenario in our body, and it can feel much more instinctive than conscious. Some people even describe being in several places at once, like remote viewing, where they are in their bodies but also watching what is happening to them. I know several people who have had conscious OBE's this way, then remembered what it felt like to continue having them. So sometimes it's not really about growth but just survival.

If your sister is having an OBE experience then on some level she is asking for it - our guides don't overide us. If your sister really doesn't want to remember or experience AP, then I would suggest speaking out loud what she does want.

I'll give you an example. I've spoken about this before. One thing that we do when we sleep is help other people around the world. I can remember some pretty interesting experiences, but at times I've felt too tired the next morning. If I really need rest, before I go to sleep, I will ask to suspend helping out in favor of resting. Literally saying something like "I suspend any agreements for helping out. I am grateful to experience rest on all levels".

A few times when I've done something like this, I've actually experienced a vacation while I was asleep! In my case, being on the beach, swimming, snorkeling - it was great! Woke up with so much energy.

And just like with any altered state experiences, a conscious OBE can really alter our perception of reality and ourselves (i.e. seeing beings like angels and pan realm beings that don't have souls, meeting other humans, having an altered time/space experience, etc). One of the funniest experiences of this wasn't when I was astral projecting, but when a male friend came to visit astrally while I was making love with my girlfriend.

I had given him an open invitation to come visit anytime - he just happened to catch me with my girlfriend. To connect with me astrally and come to where I was physically, he was remembering me with his thoughts and emotions. Because I was so open emotionally, I could feel him enter the room and connect with me - just like when I was talking with him in person. And at the same time I was lying on top of my girlfriend and physically touching her! It was pretty funny to have both sensations going on at the same time, and I had to stop what I was doing and started to laugh because it was too funny! Luckily she was open to my explanation, otherwise it could have freaked her out.

I silently said "Bad timing. Come back again later", and I literally could feel/see him look like he got his hand stuck in the cookie jar without permission, then he went away. A few months later when we met again in person we both had a laugh about it.

Jeremy - I totally support creating a thread, blog, forum, group to support people in these kinds of experiences. I created a metaphysical club in college for the very same reason. Just felt the need to clarify what feels important. Thanks for the thread.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by Weena

To me (that's just for me, others may experience it an other way) it feels like spells is a way to try hard to force things to happen. I'd rather pray and accept the outcome that is best for me.

This is a bit of a misconception.

Spells are actually just like prayers. A series of words chanted once or over and over for extra effect...said with intent and with emotion and will to fuel it.

There is no trying hard to force anything to happen involved...just specifically spelling out what you want and focusing on it, which is a lot like prayer.

I like to trust in the universe and what is best for me, so what I think I want isn't always what is best, but spells are very similar to LOA in that you have to be specific and really want whatever it is.

[Weena]

Originally Posted by elucidate

This is a bit of a misconception.

Spells are actually just like prayers. A series of words chanted once or over and over for extra effect...said with intent and with emotion and will to fuel it.

There is no trying hard to force anything to happen involved...just specifically spelling out what you want and focusing on it, which is a lot like prayer.

I like to trust in the universe and what is best for me, so what I think I want isn't always what is best, but spells are very similar to LOA in that you have to be specific and really want whatever it is.

In my case I do not repeat prayers over and over. I trust I have been heard the first time.


But thanks for sharing how you do spells, it's interesting

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by Weena

In my case I do not repeat prayers over and over. I trust I have been heard the first time.


But thanks for sharing how you do spells, it's interesting

Yeah, I don't really say it more than once either, for the same reason.

I don't actually chant words over and over, but I know that is one method that is used when doing spells...not necessarily the way I do them though. I think it could be more of a boost if I did though.

[Weena]

Originally Posted by ChrisL

Weena - We all astral project when we're asleep. And some people can do it more consciously than others - whether awake or asleep. We can have an OBE for a variety of reasons, and one experience that can be the initial setup for an OBE is some form of trauma - i.e. car accident, physical or sexual abuse, war, etc. In this case, it is us literally trying to escape from an unsafe scenario in our body, and it can feel much more instinctive than conscious. Some people even describe being in several places at once, like remote viewing, where they are in their bodies but also watching what is happening to them. I know several people who have had conscious OBE's this way, then remembered what it felt like to continue having them. So sometimes it's not really about growth but just survival.

If your sister is having an OBE experience then on some level she is asking for it - our guides don't overide us. If your sister really doesn't want to remember or experience AP, then I would suggest speaking out loud what she does want.

Yes I know people who have spontaneously learned how to OBE as kids in order to survive (we shared this a while ago if you remember, in one of our Skype sessions...do you remember you told me one of your friends gets triggered by a certain "bodily smell"?).

Last time my sister had one of those happening she managed to tell her guides something I'd translate as "guide me". She had a fairly interesting experience but she could not quite make sense of it and it became much to take on so she asked to go back into her physical body. A thing that I found interesting is that a place she saw in her AP sounded extremely similar to one I saw in a dream, though I did not get enough details to know if it actually is the same one.