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Old 11-11-2011, 04:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This is no fortune-telling gimmick -- in fact, the I Ching often frustrates attempts to divine the future from its pages.
This oracle is solely concerned with the present -- YOUR present.

I have found that when the question really resonates with you the answers offered are incredibly profound. Test for yourself.

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I asked it if I will have gas tonight. This was the answer,

"Conflict is a necessary part of life.
Tension upon the strings of a violin can make majestic music.
The critical mass of two hydrogen atoms trying to occupy the same space fuel the sun that nourishes our solar system.
Most conflicts you face in life are the result of your Path converging with another's.
Your Path is not his, and one Path is not necessarily more right than the other.
Can you work together to remove the blockage?"

This thing is a genius! I really resonate with the second line.
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I heard random words so I put them down

Thy Servant, is thy name. Thy will of thy pain, wilting springs, calming rain, Which do you choose?

and I got this

Cast Hexagram:

50 - Fifty
Ting / The Caldron

Fire rises hot and bright from the Wood beneath the sacrificial caldron:
The Superior Person positions himself correctly within the flow of Cosmic forces.

Supreme Accomplishment.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:

Your needs are coming into harmony with the requirements of the Cosmos.
Blending brilliantly with the Dance of Life, you are becoming an actual element of Cosmic Law.
Your goals will now be realized because you no longer cut against the Cosmic grain; you are no longer swimming against the flow of the Tao.
You are acquiring an intuitive sense of what can and cannot be, and aligning your efforts accordingly.

I dont get it -.-
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I heard random words so I put them down

Thy Servant, is thy name. Thy will of thy pain, wilting springs, calming rain, Which do you choose?

and I got this

Cast Hexagram:

50 - Fifty
Ting / The Caldron

Fire rises hot and bright from the Wood beneath the sacrificial caldron:
The Superior Person positions himself correctly within the flow of Cosmic forces.

Supreme Accomplishment.

SITUATION ANALYSIS:

Your needs are coming into harmony with the requirements of the Cosmos.
Blending brilliantly with the Dance of Life, you are becoming an actual element of Cosmic Law.
Your goals will now be realized because you no longer cut against the Cosmic grain; you are no longer swimming against the flow of the Tao.
You are acquiring an intuitive sense of what can and cannot be, and aligning your efforts accordingly.

I dont get it -.-
As in basketball....you are in da zone......
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The stuff you read in that I Ching Online is one interpretation of I Ching. Actually, it comes from a combination of interpretations written by some of the ancient masters.

My understanding is that those interpretations are not specifically written for you and you can't take those interpretations literally to yourself.

For "proper" practice, once you obtain your lines of combinations of Yin and Yang (from casting, your birthday date and time, etc), an I Ching Master would interpret it for you.

I Ching is only a tool. Just like people using stars or cards as tools. Tools are not important. Interpretation is important.

Many I Ching practitioners may not be able to provide you good interpretations, if they only learn it from books and courses, although there are a few who can give you accurate readings, so I heard. I have indirectly heard from some very successful I Ching practitioners that the untold secrete is that when they do interpretations, they feel as if they were "possessed" and words just came out from their mouths automatically. This may be similar to the medium or channelling stuff.
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I liked the third line the best.
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Thunder, you're right that what you read there is various people's interpretations rather than what the I Ching itself actually says. Trying to have a conversation with the oracle through that is a bit like trying to get to know someone by listening to what their friend says about them. If the friend knows them really well this might work out OK - but if you had the option you'd talk to the person themselves.

Through translations (rather than just commentaries/interpretations), you do have the option. Let's see... what to recommend...?

After you've cast your reading at ichingonline, you could head over to I Ching, Oracle of the Sun where you'll find LiSe Heyboer's work. This is wonderful. There's both translation and her own interpretation (very good - she is one of the I Ching's very closest friends).

There is more than one way to work with the I Ching. There's the old-fashioned way, just plain reading the words and images. You might want some help with that, but you can certainly do it for yourself - in fact, your own response to the imagery is your best guide. My site has all the free information you need to get started, and an online community of people helping one another with readings. There are also more complicated systems that involve date, time and complex calculations, and are used for prediction. For those you would indeed want to go to an expert in the particular system of your choice.

LiSe on hexagram 50, the Vessel (Ding, in the Chinese):

Quote:
The ritual cauldron

The cauldron
Eminent auspiciousness
Expansion

The great image says:
Above wood there is fire: the cauldron
The noble one corrects the situation to solidify fate


Thousands of roads enter the great path of Tao. To find such a road means one found one’s Ding. Creating a masterpiece can be such a road, or religion, or a Koan, or even growing beans. But however small one’s Ding may be, it always contains the huge inner storage of spiritual richness.
It gives consecration to one’s life, making its size unimportant. And making it invulnerable for any attacks.
It will be a true life and it will earn a place in the annals of Heaven.
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