Why have psychics been so wrong about the death of my mother?

[carolina]

Greetings all! I look forward to getting to know you guys.

I come not looking for pity but for help. My life has disintegrated. Five years ago I was a working mom with a job, two children, and a husband that I adored. Life could not get any better.

In January 2007 I became terribly ill. The fibromyalgia I've had since birth flared and I've been in constant pain since that date.

In January 2008 my mother became very ill. Her Alzheimer's flared and by June of 2008 she could not walk or talk to us any more and was put into assisted living. Today she is a helpless infant, unable to do anything to stare.

In December 2009 I was fired from my job. It was very traumatic. I had a sterling record there so my bosses basically pretended to "supervise" me and ended up torturing me and I have a raging case of PTSD.

I have tried everything to heal my fibro including completing almost 2 years of ro-hun therapy and every alternative medicine modality you can imagine. I haven't tried homeopathy.

But to get to the point my question is: Why have psychics been so wrong about predicting my mother's death? Good psychics. Good people. People I trust. They're usually dead on, no pun intended. But they all say "99% of her is already over there, but she is hanging on because....a. one said she was scared of Hell b. one said she had lessons to learn being helpless

But they have all predicted she would die very quickly. Well, she isn't. If I could bring mom back for an hour and show her the way she is living she would be the first one to say this is ridiculous, I want to go to the other side now. She has the mentality of an infant.

The ballsy and feisty woman I knew would be mortified to know that she is lying in bed unable to talk and pooping in diapers.

My psychologist and I have actually taken her up to the other side and she loved, loved, loved it. She stayed for a while and met Daddy and they hugged and talked and right back down she came. I was stunned!

Does anyone have any suggestions either on my health front, how to manifest my Social Security Disability hearing (still waiting, applied December 2009) or mom? I appreciate it!!!

TIA for reading.

[DarkTears]

I dont want to be rude and stuff and I wouldnt be considered a psychic, but as I was imagining how it would appeare if I was doing a reading for you and all of a sudden I heard a voice say that she is okay......like I said before I dont want to be rude but im guessing something is giving them either a wrong message or they might be telling the truth.......... also I heard this before I clicked on this thread..........

[Erin Pavlina]

Predicting death isn't an exact science. People can hang on long after they're "done." Some hang on because they fear death, some fear judgment, some have unfinished business here. A psychic cannot say with 100% accuracy when someone will die. Until the person themselves decides they are ready to release their body, they will not go.

if you want to assist your mother, start telling her it's okay to leave, you'll be fine, she can go safely. It can help.

With my own grandmother, she really hung on for a long time though she didn't really need to. My deceased grandfather and I kept going to her at night and speaking to her soul to tell her it was okay to cross over. she was just afraid. Finally one night she came to me in a dream and siad, "I'm ready to die now." Three days later she was dead. No cause of death. she just let go and slipped away.

It can take a while to help someone cross over.

I would agree that she is mostly crossed over already. I'm sorry your'e going through this. My other grandmother had Alzheimers and was like how you're describing. It's a really tough situation on everyone.

[Bonadea]

I find certain things in our path are written in stone, nothing is going to change it.

Other things are more likely to happen, but can possible change.

It goes on from there.


I was certain my father was going to go, other people were getting messages, I was getting signs, everything. I was positive he would go (and I'm pretty good at sensing that). I'm telling you, he was ready, but he saw me after I had been crying and blunk.... did a 180 and is still going.

Although I think he was SO SO ready, he just couldn't do that to me then. I was ready to let him go if he wanted. I'm not one for keeping people here, but we had just just lost my mom/his wife. I don't think he felt it was right to double wham me like that.



Also, it is said we have like exit points written into our charts where we can choose to get off the bus so to speak. But we can also choose to stay on last minute.



For my SIL, I totally saw 1 child coming in, saw her clearly. Every psychic she went to saw this child. Boom, totally different kid came in instead. Was everyone wrong or did something weird happen on that side that changed things.


Like I said on another thread, it's not like we're some omniscient beings who have some access to all the answers. We're just messengers at 'their' mercy.


I'm so sorry for all your losses. It's SO hard.

[BrianSmith]

I don't know anything about anything. BUT, I have an interesting question. What if her being in this state is supposed to teach YOU something?

[Andras]

most (not all) psychics are quacks and frauds.

Originally Posted by carolina

Greetings all! I look forward to getting to know you guys.

I come not looking for pity but for help. My life has disintegrated. Five years ago I was a working mom with a job, two children, and a husband that I adored. Life could not get any better.

In January 2007 I became terribly ill. The fibromyalgia I've had since birth flared and I've been in constant pain since that date.

In January 2008 my mother became very ill. Her Alzheimer's flared and by June of 2008 she could not walk or talk to us any more and was put into assisted living. Today she is a helpless infant, unable to do anything to stare.

In December 2009 I was fired from my job. It was very traumatic. I had a sterling record there so my bosses basically pretended to "supervise" me and ended up torturing me and I have a raging case of PTSD.

I have tried everything to heal my fibro including completing almost 2 years of ro-hun therapy and every alternative medicine modality you can imagine. I haven't tried homeopathy.

But to get to the point my question is: Why have psychics been so wrong about predicting my mother's death? Good psychics. Good people. People I trust. They're usually dead on, no pun intended. But they all say "99% of her is already over there, but she is hanging on because....a. one said she was scared of Hell b. one said she had lessons to learn being helpless

But they have all predicted she would die very quickly. Well, she isn't. If I could bring mom back for an hour and show her the way she is living she would be the first one to say this is ridiculous, I want to go to the other side now. She has the mentality of an infant.

The ballsy and feisty woman I knew would be mortified to know that she is lying in bed unable to talk and pooping in diapers.

My psychologist and I have actually taken her up to the other side and she loved, loved, loved it. She stayed for a while and met Daddy and they hugged and talked and right back down she came. I was stunned!

Does anyone have any suggestions either on my health front, how to manifest my Social Security Disability hearing (still waiting, applied December 2009) or mom? I appreciate it!!!

TIA for reading.

[akoma]

Funny how I was watching Anderson Cooper's show today and they were talking about how psychics scam people, vulnerable people. Personally, I don't believe in Psychics and I never will. Why are you so willing to waste your time and possibly money on someone to tell you whether your mother is alright or not. I am sorry for the condition of your mother but when the time comes for her to go, she'll go. You don't need anybody to tell you when or how she'll die.

[carolina]

First of all, I want to thank everybody who replied, even the skeptics. I myself have some psychic ability, but not enough to do readings. I know "it is out there." I also know that it is an inexact science, and that the best psychic in the world can be wrong at times. I have sought help from friends with psychic ability. I have not spent zillions of dollars on frauds. The psychics I've consulted are friends and we practice on each other. They are stumped also. One of my friends said that my mom was the biggest mystery he has ever encountered in years of psychic readings. I am not some gullible yahoo. I've studied and researched this phenomenon for a long time, and I know that there are true psychics out there, and that everybody has this ability...it's just that some people are better at it.

Erin, I especially want to thank you for your support. I have been telling mom for years that I am ready for her to go. My sister took a much longer time to come around, but she is now also ready for her to go, and my Dad is BEGGING her to go (from the other side-he passed over in August 1997.. )

She was a good Christian lady and I was amazed to hear that she was scared of hell. I believe that she slowly regressed through her childhood and she heard too many preachers talk about hell as a child and when she was going through that she froze up and was scared to go. But I feel that now she is ready but is hanging on for some reason. One of my friends who is a full time professional psychic volunteered to go to her (psychically) as a priest and see if he could ease her fears and what did she do? She took him all over the universe doing stuff and then somehow he wakes up and can't remember anything except for hazy vague things. He says he thinks he's supposed to learn something but he can't figure it out either.

I can't figure out why. Brian, I've asked myself that question a million times. I am trying to grow and learn and develop. A friend told me that I had to undergo a crisis with my sister and pry her off of me (she is a true energy vampire) and I did that last summer.

The same friend told me that she was hanging on until I did that because she was an "energy vampire" to both of our parents and if I did not stand up and push her onto her own path before mom died *I* would end up being the energy vampire.

I went into some detail about all the trauma I've gone through because the mom I knew would have left to spare me more trauma, I think. And she was a no nonsense scientist who believed that when your mind is gone, you should go too. That's where I got my beliefs from!!!

Dark Tears, your message is fascinating but I can't figure it out. Could you give me a little more?

Thank you everybody, and I will keep you updated. I KNOW there is something I am supposed to learn from this, but I'll be darned if I know what!!!

Best to all.

[Bonadea]

I was where you are now. It's SO SO SO SO SO hard.

I've had that happen a few times in my life where it's like I get an information block and I just have to ride out the wave. It's maddening, it is really maddening.

Having been through it, my only advise would be distract yourself with things that bring you joy in the meantime. As much as you can anyways.

I had to watch my mother suffer through things that were literally unbearable just to watch, I can't even go there to think about her having to go through it. Trust me, I get it, I get all the weird places your mind can bring you.

I am so sorry you are all going through what you are going through.

[illbreaker]

I believe *some* psychics are real. However, some get their info from lying spirit guides and other entities.

[codenamesmiley]

Originally Posted by illbreaker

I believe *some* psychics are real. However, some get their info from lying spirit guides and other entities.

I agree. Many use the gift, but lack discernment.

It is a learning process for anyone using their abilities. (a constant never-ending process).

[farmerjaneusa]

one way you could look at it: imagine you did the same thing day in and day out. imagine what those patterns would look like on something like a seismic graph compared to someone who freelances around the world. we judge time by unique events. (think: deprivation tanks) a series of events are easier to see but the time between them is not. we are what we do. if a psychic used that tool to gather information and didn't let themselves feel like they were required to give a specific time or time range perhaps some of them would be "more accurate" more frequently.

[carolina]

Bonadea-thank you. It helps to know that others have gone through this and know how frustrating it is to NOT know. You are right...sometimes you have to just ride the wave. That is what I decided to do after reading some of this board. I just thought, "I can't do any more. Spirit obviously does not want me to know. I have to accept that and stop worrying, stop obsessing, just roll."

And what do you know.

I don't believe in coincidence...also I feel that some of you are helping me...if you are, THANK YOU. This hell has been going on with my mom since Christmas 2007. And I got a call from my sister Friday. The nursing home has tested mom for renal failure and they want to put her in hospice. It looks as if she is finally going.

Thank you, THANK YOU SPIRIT. It's so weird, after growing up thinking that death is the worst possible thing, to rejoice at the idea of your mom dying, but since I was "saved" (my version-I learned about the Other Side in a book when I was 14 written by Ruth Montgomery and channeled by Arthur Ford) I know that death is a joyous experience and I can't wait to think of Mom and Dad together again, hand in hand, no pain, healthy and free.

The home is the "best" one and they have a great Hospice program come in I hear. (Mom saved and has a generous pension and also had nursing home insurance so we were able to put in in a great place). They will make sure that she is pain free. I hope.

I will keep you all up to date.

[carolina]

After my sister's phone call, I went and took a nap. I was a teenager again. And someone came in and said, "Your mother has died." And I felt at one with her spirit and woke up smiling and feeling peaceful.

I have never had a dream where mom died.

Maybe the lesson is (several of my psychic friends have told me this but I was unwilling to hear it until now) that you have to sometimes trust Spirit. You aren't supposed to know something so you are FORCED to trust Spirit.

I still want a lesson all wrapped up in a nice package with a bow, though, because I'm Hooman. But I think I have it. I hope to work professionally when Sprit gives me the go-ahead. My guides have already suggested giving it a whirl. I'd love to trade readings with anyone.

I think the lesson is that sometimes you have to simply trust Spirit.

If this was 1980, I'd be on here bawling my eyes out about my soulmate breaking up with me. And if it was 1987, I'd be on here bawling my eyes out at my new soulmate breaking our engagement. And in 1992 I met the right one and we just celebrated 19 wonderful years. He was unable to father children--and we adopted the best two kids in the world.

So....sometimes you can't see ahead, but that does not mean that there are not wonderful things waiting for you at the right time or place.

[DarkTears]

are you happy now?.......I kind of feel like your hiding something, like wanting to cry.............sorry, thinking out loud............

[codenamesmiley]

Originally Posted by DarkTears

are you happy now?.......I kind of feel like your hiding something, like wanting to cry.............sorry, thinking out loud............

I am sure it is bittersweet release. When I read 'happy" I sensed "relief".

[Bonadea]

My Memere has what she calls "white dreams" whenever someone is going to pass. They are usually very bright, happy and she sees them like that.

However, try to just do what you've started doing and let it go. If it happens, it happens, if it doesn't, it doesn't or it will drive you mad.



Unless you've been through it, it's hard to explain. You can't stand seeing them suffer, but at the same time it's still very hard to let them go.

[carolina]

Relief, exactly, thanks. Here's the deal. I became so sick with fibromyalgia in Jan 2007. Working on healing. Mom started to become obviously sick in Jan 2008 and six weeks later overdosed on laxatives and ended up in the hospital, and that was the last of her independent living.

I haven't even BEGUN to process my grief. In 2008 I was still working full time in a very negative environment, raising daughters age 8 and 10, running our home, being a wife, and then trying my best to care for my mother with my spare time, of which I had none.

I had to put my feelings on the back burner to deal with the situation which included clearing out a packed 2000 sq foot house, dealing with 6 banks some with multiple accounts, (we aren't zillionaires, but my parents believed in putting a little money in every bank in town) 5 stocks, 5 safety deposit boxes, selling stuff, splitting things with my sister, selling the house, trying to find investments that would pay more than pennies, trying to keep my sister from "borrowing" the money...fighting with the nursing home over this n that..for instance, the doctor gave her Claritin and the pharmacy charged $200/month for it because it was not on some list, switched her to the other antihistamine for $8.00/ month, etc etc etc etc etc

PLUS trying to shake off the negativity which caused me to get sick. Mom and Dad were loving people but extremely negative, maybe the most negative people I have ever met. They were also extremely funny people, which masked the negativity so well that I didn't realize it until I began to work with my psychologist and do Rohun healing....

I am looking forward to cutting the financial ties with my sister more than you can imagine, writing her a check for her share of the estate, and relating to her as a sister instead of a person who is draining mom's estate. And we are both lawyers with power to draw on the estate so no, there is nothing I could do to stop her except spend money we don't have going to court and tear up our relationship and our children's relationships forever and we only have each other left and etc etc etc

I cannot wait to begin the grieving process. I have no more been able to grieve than a soldier can afford to start grieving in the middle of a battle. I WANT to cry, but I can't. I want to cry so very very much. I so wanted my parents to enjoy seeing their grandchildren. Now they will enjoy them on the other side, and I hope that they will stay in touch. They would have been so, so proud of them.* And of course, my sister and I miss them because they were our biggest cheerleaders and there was always a place to go home on this earth. Now there isn't. We are on our own. We have our homes, husbands, kids, though, which makes it easier, but I will always miss them until we are reunited on the Other Side.

*My children are now 11 and 13. I hope I can put them in touch with my parents eventually. They are learning about Spirit and we are raising them in a positive, happy home and they are encouraged to fly as high as possible without all the worry and negativity that my parents constantly conveyed to me. If only Mom had not been so terrified of getting Alzheimer's! I'd be over at her house laughing about the kids right now. But she wrote her chart, and she has taught me so many lessons. Like most parents, a lot of my parenting is doing exactly the opposite of the way I was raised, while still retaining the good. And there was a lot of good. I know I am loved deeply by them..... I was just held back by worry and fear and pumped full of negativity.

[Bonadea]

I know how hard it is, try and hang in there.

Give yourself PLENTY of time to grieve and regroup after. I'm 6 months out and I'm just starting to pan out.

Everyone I've talk to says it takes at least a year.

I have another friend who had to watch her mother suffer a good 10 yrs with an aggressive breast cancer. Even though you're relieved they aren't suffering, it still hits you hard. So be prepared.

I got hit with several HUGE life changing things in the last 6 months. It's just been 1 knock down after another. I know there is a lesson in there. Not sure what it is. I'm thinking the powers that be just want me to stay down and feel the pain for now. Not sure though.

(Any psychic insight is more than welcome here)

[codenamesmiley]

Trust and surrender to the powers that be, whatever you believe in..tends to be very necessary when struggling through what I can only refer to as the "Multi_experience" because you have several traumatic and intense events running side by side and you have to be at the helm of each. Your mind, heart and soul requires constant processing of the energy that seems so chaotic at first while having the experience.

Unfortunately most of us have to hit total exhaustion before surrender happens. Once it does tho, things shift pretty quickly .

Surrender and release is a reciprocal process.

[Angelz]

They may both be right...she may be afraid of hell but at the same time she is afraid of the unknown...what will happen to her when she dies...what will happen to you? What will happen to those she loves here? It sounds like she is holding on to something here from pure stubborness. There is also the possibility that she wrote this into her life plan for a reason...she has lessons to learn about allowing others to assist her and making herself rely on others. I am getting the feeling that she has always been the strong one, kept everyone together when times were rough but now it is her turn to be cared for. It may not only be lessons for her but for all of your family as well. Perhaps you also have lessons to learn from her being struck with this.