Meditational state

[FalseAwakening]

Hmmm I'm currious to how people do it and/or their experiences while meditating... And well here's mine... Usually when I try to meditate I guess I kind of go in this trance and I see pictures and images... It kind of feels like a dream to me. But when I try to concentrate more on what is said or what we are doing I immediately ruin the thing and wake up... It's hard to explain but I completely forget what happened, which is unusual well if it was a dream I'd remember it like... 90% of the time, I know because I practice it every day and I write out at least 4 pages on it.

Hmmm so I was wondering would that be meditation or dream? I do remember having a conversation with someone, and interacting with things... But I cant remember squat with details.... Only that I know I was with someone... Happens every time I try to meditate so I'm wondering, am I in a meditational state or just falling asleep?

And if so how can I meditate better? The way I do it is just lay in bed and let go of everything and then I enter a sort of dream world which is... Well to me pretty frail because the slightest movement of my real body or concentration wise breaks it...

And i want to know how other people do this or what is their experiences with this?

I have at some points while trying to meditate felt something yelling in my ear... Well not really yelling but I do feel waves of energy coming at one side of my head... Then I go partially deaf like if you were at a party that had the music insanely loud. And other things usually a presence that I guess... Falls above my head and stops right before hitting me which usually wakes me up or startles me to the point where I have to start over again... Or I feel something enter my room, which why I now face the door every time I do a meditation... Usually this presence is enough to disrupt my concentration...

Well thank you for reading this and any advice on what is happening and how to become better at meditation is awesome! I love you all

[Tanemon]

There are numerous purposes to meditation. Because of the variety of purposes, the methods used and the inner states attained are varied, too. I'll tell you a bit about my experience. You can decide whether or not it has any value or relevance for you.

When I first started meditating, I was interested in achieving an inner state of complete peace, complete inner depth, complete quietude (not visions, voices, etc). This inner state (sometimes called pure consciousness) happens to be the goal of many of the schools of East-Indian yoga, as well as the goal of several forms of Zen Buddhism, and so on. You can be trained to achieve it through training offered by Transcendental Meditation, or by teachers of meditative yoga (dhyana), and elsewhere.

I found that this state, which I would experience several times during each period of "sitting" was very relaxing, refreshing, and centering. I might experience dreamlike episodes like you've described, or thoughts, or memories, but that would on my way in - and the meditative state went beyond that.

This practice helped me in my life. I felt more optimistic, more emotionally steady, more generally relaxed. However, doing this practice - in my case - did not clear up the emotional garbage that had accumulated during my life. I'd had a rough childhood and adolescence, and early adulthood. The emotional baggage warped numerous aspects of my life.

So I got involved with something called Reiki, which is a healing path. I'll keep the story brief by saying that Reiki enabled me to unload a huge amount of negativity. The negativity seemed to be composed of old hurts, buried emotional conflicts, old anger, shame, and guilt, and internalized misguided decisions.

After I got attuned to Reiki, I was much closer to the state of deep relaxation during my everyday life than I had been before. I mean that the centered, quiet state of inner peace that I'd experienced in meditation before seemed to blend with my normal, everyday life more.

You can pursue specific meditation techniques for other purposes than deep peace. But peace has been important to me... I'll leave it at that.

[Erin Ashley]

A few things pop out at me in your post. First, if you tend to have very good dream recall but aren't recalling your meditative experiences, I'd be skeptical about it being a dream. A few people I know go into this alternate state and have no awareness of where they went or what they did while there, but still find it very useful, so you would not be the first person I know who had this experience. I would guess that you're experiencing a spirit of some kind, perhaps your spirit guides or some other helpful entity, based on what you're saying here.

The waves of energy you mention coming at your head remind me of the experiences I have when I'm connecting with a new spirit or entity. The big question here is: Does it feel loving or unloving? If it feels unloving, I would highly recommend setting boundaries so the entities can't communicate or disturb you while you are in your meditative states. This can be done with a simple "I only wish to communicate with beings of love and light." as long as you keep a relatively high vibration. They respond much more to vibration than to words, in my experience.

You also may be very close to having astral projection experiences. I'd highly recommend deciding if you want to communicate with other entities, and if so, putting some boundaries up! :-)