Healing: Personal Experiences and Methods

[Tanemon]

There have been some very good healing threads here at Pavlina lately. I wanted to start one here that would focus on personal healing experiences... and also maybe on some of the specifics of the methods we use.

So please do share.

[Tanemon]

Clarrie posted this one on the "Navel or Heart Chakra" healing thread. It's very interesting. So, since Clarrie and I have been PM'ing about all this, I'm quoting (re-posting) it here:

Originally Posted by Lovingnaturemore

Thanks for your interest Angel A,,I have worked with Horses all my working life having had a stud farm with up to five Stallions standing there at once, now that was a very hard life, 7 days a week and sometimes 24 hours a day, also trained Race Horses at the same time. That was how in latter life after I finished with the stud and just had some horses in training that I got started with the healing. They were having problems with their health,ie, breathing troubles, soreness, in fact had had more lameness troubles since moving to the property that we on than I had had in the rest of my training career, any way to make a long story short,My brother in law asked an American Bill Northern to come and stay with us for a few days to show us how to Dowse and learn how to find underground water with divining, while he was there he told me my Horses were being Poisoned by a Sewerage Plant next store which was meant to be able to make the water so pure that you could drink it, well they were spraying it on to the ground and growing trees from it, however some times it got things in it that upset the balance and it really smelt, when it was real bad you could hardly breathe. Also the property had a lot of Noxious energy running underneath it including the house, in fact under my bed, at the time I was waking up feeling like I had never been to sleep, dragging myself out of bed, so that explained that. Anyway, he showed me where my hoses were feeling pain but as he at that stage was not into healing that was all he could do. About the day after he left I have this very strong feeling that I should try and heal one of my Horses which had been a bit sore when he stared work each day then warmed up out of it, not knowing what I was meant to do I just put my hand around his tendon where he has said he was sore and got my Pendulum out and starting to Dowse it,the Pendulum at that stage was just an Acorn, calling on my Angels like he had taught me to do when Divining for water. Well when the Pendulum stopped spinning around I thought it must have been finished, I was amazed that the next day when I worked the Horse he was not sore, I couldn't believe it, I happened to be talking to Bill a day or two after that in America and mentioned about it and said to him I wouldn't be able to do that would I and he said yes you would and that's how it started, and as you would know it changed my life. My friends didn't want to know me as they were sure I needed the men in white coats to come and take me away, funny how it worked out though, it probably saved their lives in the years to come, though they would never admit it to anyone. Hope I haven't raved on too much, good healing everyone, Clarrie

[Lovingnaturemore]

Originally Posted by Tanemon

There have been some very good healing threads here at Pavlina lately. I wanted to start one here that would focus on personal healing experiences... and also maybe on some of the specifics of the methods we use.

So please do share.

I think that's a great idea, I just posted one on your other Thread, I will copy it and put it on here too, you are doing a great job, all the best, Clarrie

[Lovingnaturemore]

Originally Posted by Tanemon

Clarrie posted this one on the "Navel or Heart Chakra" healing thread. It's very interesting. So, since Clarrie and I have been PM'ing about all this, I'm quoting (re-posting) it here:

Thanks, you just saved me a job, hope you get a lot of replies, great subject, I feel when we stop learning we are brain dead.Clarrie

[VinceG]

Originally Posted by Lovingnaturemore

I feel when we stop learning we are brain dead.Clarrie

You couldn't be farther from the truth. You never stop learning.

[Lovingnaturemore]

Originally Posted by VinceG

You couldn't be farther from the truth. You never stop learning.

That is what I meant,you took it up the wrong way, or else I said it the wrong way for you to understand, Clarrie

[Tanemon]

Clarrie, when you're working with them, have you found that horses tend to heal, physically, more easily than people? I ask this because I wonder if the conscious or subconscious minds of people get in the way of fully effective healing sometimes.

[angel A]

Sorry for jumping in here but i just wanted to say that when i heal cats and dogs, they seem to respond and heal much more quickly than humans. Dogs, especially are very trusting of humans, in general, so maybe thats is one of the reasons, but maybe because animals just accept things. They are sensitive to the energy and just accept that it is good. They don't need to know where it comes from or understand how the practitioner is delivering it. As humans we question an need to understand everything and ,sometimes that gets in the way.

I appologise again for jumping in!

[Tanemon]

Originally Posted by angel A

Sorry for jumping in here but i just wanted to say that when i heal cats and dogs, they seem to respond and heal much more quickly than humans. Dogs, especially are very trusting of humans, in general, so maybe thats is one of the reasons, but maybe because animals just accept things. They are sensitive to the energy and just accept that it is good. They don't need to know where it comes from or understand how the practitioner is delivering it. As humans we question an need to understand everything and ,sometimes that gets in the way.

I appologise again for jumping in!

Don't worry. This is an open-discussion... you've given sessions to dogs & cats, and your thoughts are relevant to the topic. In fact, if you want to describe some of the healing experiences you've had when working on animals, go right ahead.

[angel A]

The majority of animals i have worked on have had emotional and behaviour problems but, others have ranged from arthritis ,injuries and helping to recover from operations.

One dog in particular ,who was suffering from arthritis in it's back legs, and was unable to get up the steps to it's home, was able to do so right after a session.It's owner said that it slept for most of the day after the treatment and seemed a lot more comfortable.My own dog was neutered and, after managing to get off his protective collar,licked the wound.The wound looked a bit red so i gave him lots of healing and then took him to the vets to make sure he was ok.The vet said it looked like it had been infected but was healing by it'self so didn't need antibiotics and the wound looked older than it actually was, which i took to mean that he was healing quickly.

One thing i have noticed in most of the animals i treat is, they present the area to be healed, in the case of injuries,to me by themselves.For example i was out walking my own dog one day and saw a dog, with only three legs, with it's owner,having had it's leg amputated when it was knocked down by a car.I stroked the dogs head and my hands started to tingle, something that sometimes happens spontaneously to me, when someone needs healing. The dog turned around and presented me with the injury and allowed me to give healing. I then went on my way but saw the dog again on the way back and it came straight to me again, as if wanting more healing.They just seem to know that it does them good!

[Lovingnaturemore]

Originally Posted by angel A

The majority of animals i have worked on have had emotional and behaviour problems but, others have ranged from arthritis ,injuries and helping to recover from operations.

One dog in particular ,who was suffering from arthritis in it's back legs, and was unable to get up the steps to it's home, was able to do so right after a session.It's owner said that it slept for most of the day after the treatment and seemed a lot more comfortable.My own dog was neutered and, after managing to get off his protective collar,licked the wound.The wound looked a bit red so i gave him lots of healing and then took him to the vets to make sure he was ok.The vet said it looked like it had been infected but was healing by it'self so didn't need antibiotics and the wound looked older than it actually was, which i took to mean that he was healing quickly.

One thing i have noticed in most of the animals i treat is, they present the area to be healed, in the case of injuries,to me by themselves.For example i was out walking my own dog one day and saw a dog, with only three legs, with it's owner,having had it's leg amputated when it was knocked down by a car.I stroked the dogs head and my hands started to tingle, something that sometimes happens spontaneously to me, when someone needs healing. The dog turned around and presented me with the injury and allowed me to give healing. I then went on my way but saw the dog again on the way back and it came straight to me again, as if wanting more healing.They just seem to know that it does them good!

Hi, I love reading about how other people do their healing and how they have had success doing different ways of doing it and how the animal has responded, I feel myself that money can't buy the feeling that you get when you know the animal is not in pain anymore. I feel that animals are so very sensitive, Dogs are so very open with their feelings. I had a funny experience not long after I started trying to heal, I was talking to a lady on the phone who was Spiritual and she was telling me about her Sons old Dog who was very badly affected by Arthritis, could hardly get around, well I had this over powering feeling to try and treat it even though I had always done it with a photo and the name but I felt that having known the lady might help even though I had never met her, just written to her a few times, however I started to treat the dog after I got of the phone as it was a toll call and I knew that it was going to be a big job. About two weeks latter I went and met the lady for the first time and her Son and his dog just happened to be there and her Son had been telling his Mother how he didn't know what had got into his Dog lately as it had been tearing around like a young thing, when I went there the Dog was all over me, kept coming over and licking me and making a great fuss of me, the lady then said that she had never seen the Dog do that to anyone before, always a bit standoffish . I was sure that Dog some how knew that I had treated it even though it had never seen me before, something that I will always remember, I have found that has happened since, another lady that was Spiritual in Ireland asked me to see if I could treat her old Dog who was very sick, had been poisoned I found, she also was a healer and I found it so much easier to make a contact with her and her dog, she said a few hours latter it was having a feed and running round, it's times like that that make it all worth while. God Bless every one, Clarrie

[angel A]

Hi Clarrie you can get some good results from distance healing! I have used photo's, visualisation and a healing box, although never with animals so far.
Oh and you have inspired me to have a go at dowsing! Although i have used my pendulum many times it never occured to me to use it in healing so i will let you know how i get on.

[Lovingnaturemore]

Originally Posted by angel A

Hi Clarrie you can get some good results from distance healing! I have used photo's, visualisation and a healing box, although never with animals so far.
Oh and you have inspired me to have a go at dowsing! Although i have used my pendulum many times it never occured to me to use it in healing so i will let you know how i get on.

Hi Angel A, You make me feel very humble as I am just a very small Healer who is still leaning, I should be following you and your ways, one question I would like to ask you is what is a Healing Box, it sounds interesting. I some times use different methods of Treatments, I ask my Helpers as I call them which sort I should use before I start, I sometimes put my hand on the horse and use the pendulum, another time I will use both hands, and for distance treatments I will put my hand on the photo and use the pendulum but other times I will just go into a trance sort of sleep thing with healing music playing, only for an hour or so at a time though for the trance one if I get a good connection, some people seem to be easier to connect too than others, I feel it might have to do with how Spiritual they are or how receptive, haven't tried that on Animals yet though but I feel it is coming up soon. Would love to hear your views on that and what you have found, Good Healing, Clarrie

[angel A]

Originally Posted by Lovingnaturemore

Hi Angel A, You make me feel very humble as I am just a very small Healer who is still leaning, I should be following you and your ways, one question I would like to ask you is what is a Healing Box, it sounds interesting. I some times use different methods of Treatments, I ask my Helpers as I call them which sort I should use before I start, I sometimes put my hand on the horse and use the pendulum, another time I will use both hands, and for distance treatments I will put my hand on the photo and use the pendulum but other times I will just go into a trance sort of sleep thing with healing music playing, only for an hour or so at a time though for the trance one if I get a good connection, some people seem to be easier to connect too than others, I feel it might have to do with how Spiritual they are or how receptive, haven't tried that on Animals yet though but I feel it is coming up soon. Would love to hear your views on that and what you have found, Good Healing, Clarrie

Hi Clarrie I too am a very small healer and learning every day!I think we all have something to offer and learn from each other !

A healing box is a ordinary box into which i put photographs and pieces of paper with names, addresses and the illness the person is suffering from, written on it.I then charge the box with healing energy and meditate for ten minutes or longer. Some people use the reiki healing symbol, when meditating, but i find it works for me without it , just as well.Every day i will try to spend at least ten minutes, meditating with the box and sending healing.This method is good and effective if you have several people who need healing because, you can send healing to them all at once.I have had some positive results with this method because i have difficulty with visualisation sometimes.You can also place a photograph of someone taken in the past, before they became ill.I did this with someone suffering from severe depression.I obtained a photo of the person, which was taken before their illness surfaced, and placed it in the healing box. Written on the back was their name and date it was taken so the healing is sent to that time.Whether coincidental or not, the person started to ,and continues to make good progress after years of deep depression, and being suicidal, has come on in leaps and bounds.However i must stress that they continued with their medication but i am certain that the healing speeded up their recovery!

Thankyou for explaining how you work, using the pendulum!You are very intuitive, the best way to work!! The trance you describe sounds much like meditation.I also use soothing music when doing this because it helps to calm my mind and helps with concentration.I think your method seems very effective although it may not be as effective for me because, i think that we all find a method that we are good at and which suits the individual.However i am certainly going to experiment using this method.

Sorry if iv'e gone on a bit.

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by Tanemon

focus on personal healing experiences... and also maybe on some of the specifics of the methods we use.

So please do share.

Conditions I myself healed from #1, &/or helped others heal, include: Abortion-caused cancer, backpain, other cancers, diabetes, heart-conditions, osteoporosis, etc.

Various methods used, mostly hypnosis.

[Lovingnaturemore]

Originally Posted by angel A

Hi Clarrie I too am a very small healer and learning every day!I think we all have something to offer and learn from each other !

A healing box is a ordinary box into which i put photographs and pieces of paper with names, addresses and the illness the person is suffering from, written on it.I then charge the box with healing energy and meditate for ten minutes or longer. Some people use the reiki healing symbol, when meditating, but i find it works for me without it , just as well.Every day i will try to spend at least ten minutes, meditating with the box and sending healing.This method is good and effective if you have several people who need healing because, you can send healing to them all at once.I have had some positive results with this method because i have difficulty with visualisation sometimes.You can also place a photograph of someone taken in the past, before they became ill.I did this with someone suffering from severe depression.I obtained a photo of the person, which was taken before their illness surfaced, and placed it in the healing box. Written on the back was their name and date it was taken so the healing is sent to that time.Whether coincidental or not, the person started to ,and continues to make good progress after years of deep depression, and being suicidal, has come on in leaps and bounds.However i must stress that they continued with their medication but i am certain that the healing speeded up their recovery!

Thankyou for explaining how you work, using the pendulum!You are very intuitive, the best way to work!! The trance you describe sounds much like meditation.I also use soothing music when doing this because it helps to calm my mind and helps with concentration.I think your method seems very effective although it may not be as effective for me because, i think that we all find a method that we are good at and which suits the individual.However i am certainly going to experiment using this method.

Sorry if iv'e gone on a bit.

Thanks for that, no you haven't gone on a bit at all, I want to know as much of what you do as possible, that's what it is all about. Yes the music is healing in it's own way, same as a running stream, why we feel so energized after we sit under tress by a river or stream for awhile, I know I do, the bigger the trees the better,of course rocks have the same affect,all that energy that is stored in them. I did a lady a few years ago for Arthritis in her fingers, had only met her the once, it was the first time I had used the thought method through the trance, it was amazing, I could just click into her any where and I didn't even have a photo of her but she was very spiritual, I did her Dog too and the same thing happened although I had a photo of him, and I was lucky both treatments were successful which gave me a great feeling. I hope us telling these things that have happened to us is some use to someone else as I wish years ago I could have learned more off other people, mind you I still want too. May all your treatments be successful, Clarrie

[Lovingnaturemore]

Originally Posted by sk8joyful

Conditions I myself healed from #1, &/or helped others heal, include: Abortion-caused cancer, backpain, other cancers, diabetes, heart-conditions, osteoporosis, etc.

Various methods used, mostly hypnosis.

Hi, That sounds great, would like to know more, I feel the more the merrier that write in, the more we can learn from others the better, Clarrie

[pianoperformer]

I myself haven't healed anyone, but God's healed a lot of people through me. I've been used mostly for emotional and mental healing, but some physical healing as well. When Christine had surgery last December, I really think the healing helped her to recover a lot faster. I've shared a lot of my stories in the past.

[Merrick1]

Originally Posted by pianoperformer

I myself haven't healed anyone, but God's healed a lot of people through me.

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by pianoperformer

I myself haven't healed anyone, but God's healed a lot of people through me.
I've been used mostly for emotional and mental healing, but some physical healing as well. When Christine had surgery last December, I really think the healing helped her to recover a lot faster. I've shared a lot of my stories in the past.

I would never ignorantly boastfully say that (without God), I did it.

When I say I have healed, & helped & help others heal,
it is Always from understanding that GOD created in us the bazillion abilities... to heal. - Thus it's Intelligent to Optimally use all our created abilities...

[Tanemon]

Originally Posted by sk8joyful

I would never ignorantly boastfully say that (without God), I did it.

When I say I have healed, & helped & help others heal,
it is Always from understanding that GOD created in us the bazillion abilities... to heal. - Thus it's Intelligent to Optimally use all our created abilities...

I totally agree. Most "healers" do have the understanding that it is divine healing power that works through them - not some product of the healer's ego.

Even when the healer is a highly trained, highly effective sort of healer, it is still divine energy or spirit working theough the healer.

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by Tanemon

I totally agree. Most "healers" do have the understanding that it is divine healing power that works through them - not some product of the healer's ego.

Even when the healer is a highly trained, highly effective sort of healer, it is still divine energy or spirit working theough the healer.

Originally Posted by Lovingnaturemore

Hi, That sounds great, would like to know more,
I feel the more the merrier that write in, the more we can learn from others the better, Clarrie

Another discussion I started here over 2 yrs. ago on
this topic: manifest Abundant health: share healing... stories

Each is true: #1, 2, & 6 was about myself.
#3, 4, & 5 I served as primary Encourager, and #7 is one of our neighbors.

Helping people allow their own healing, is a Vital-part of it.
Beyond helping people heal, I really love helping people grow & develop... their abilities
another this reason I enjoy participating here.

[HiImJeremy]

Let's just all agree that we work under the assumption that we're 'God' and that 'God' flows through us when healing occurs. This way we avoid being pedantic.

I, and most people, will say " I healed...", " I gave healing..." for the sake of convenience.

"God healed through me" - i think that is a statement worth a lot of thought.

I could say that i am really God and that it was me that gave the healing. There's no seperation there right? So if i were more pedantic i could say it is Me doing the healing anyway.

I could say the tree there healed through me - because everything is God right? I just singled out an aspect.

I'm not challenging the heart felt beliefs here btw, before you all start cursing me - these are only suggestions. Things like this started my permission issue thread lol. Challenging this sorta 'mainstream' accepted view brings bricks crashing down upon the challengee. Worth it in the end though.

Personal healing experiences. I have managed to heal myself of colds and aches and pains and stuff. I haven't had a chance to work on much more of myself because i'm quite healthy in general and don't experience a lot of sickness. Perhaps one day. I do have an ingrown toenail that's annoying and quite painful. I think i'll try that out, now that i think about it.

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by HiImJeremy

Let's just all agree

that we work under the assumption that we're 'God'

No way! Jose.

I may be crazy, but not that crazy!

Originally Posted by HiImJeremy

Personal healing experiences.
I have managed to heal myself of colds and aches and pains and stuff.

Good for you!

Tho Empowering ourselves, plus others to heal from Altzheimers, back-injuries, Cancering, diabetes, heart diseases, etc. - is a whole lot different,
than merely a toe-ache, or the common cold.

Until people know what they are doing, repeatedly
successfully, leave such to the people who do. We want people to live Abundantly...

[HiImJeremy]

EDIT: Scratch that.

You're right - I am crazy.

God is kept safely behind the clouds.

[Lovingnaturemore]

I just feel so lucky that God gave me the Gift to help in some small way to maybe make some lives better, to help ease their suffering, wish I could do much more, after all he has the final say as to who gets what healing or treatments,we are only servants trying to direct it too the right places Clarrie

[pianoperformer]

Originally Posted by sk8joyful

Tho Empowering ourselves, plus others to heal from Altzheimers, back-injuries, Cancering, diabetes, heart diseases, etc. - is a whole lot different,
than merely a toe-ache, or the common cold.

Until people know what they are doing, repeatedly
successfully, leave such to the people who do. We want people to live Abundantly...

Perhaps I am taking your post the wrong way, but this sounds very much like an egoic perspective. This is why I emphasized in my post that God heals through us, not that we heal. When we allow ourselves to think that we heal, then I can be a better healer than you, or you can be a better healer than me. But we are not healers: we are children of God who allow Him to work through us for the betterment of others. If we take the glory for it, we are not truly allowing God to work through us as much as He could.

Maybe to you, you are better because you can heal cancer, while another can only heal an ache or pain. But they are really all the same. When we give degrees to healing, we limit ourselves. All of them are miracles just the same, and the divine work of God in our lives.

[Tanemon]

Originally Posted by sk8joyful

Another discussion I started here over 2 yrs. ago on
this topic: manifest Abundant health: share healing... stories

Each is true: #1, 2, & 6 was about myself.
#3, 4, & 5 I served as primary Encourager, and #7 is one of our neighbors.

Helping people allow their own healing, is a Vital-part of it.
Beyond helping people heal, I really love helping people grow & develop... their abilities
another this reason I enjoy participating here.

Wow! This is great! Really glad you posted the link to the earlier discussion.

I'm quite inspired by you, sk8joyful. I hope you've got a book in the works.

Somehow, I missed the original discussion thread (that you linked to), though I'm sure I was registered in the Pavlina forums back when you posted it. I've been posting threads to get these healing discussions going over the last couple years, and actually they now seem to be snowballing, information-wise.

I want to quote something you said in that other thread:

Originally Posted by sk8joyful

Health can also often be damaged/destroyed by external
agents: BACTERIA, poisons, falls, hemorrhages,
pharmaceuticals, Medical-mistakes, other crimes,
governmental staff, other terrorists, yadda, yadda.

I agree with this - even though it diverges the "emotional origin of disease" conviction that prevails in Western Reiki today (in N America and Europe). Personally, I'm trained and attuned in the energy-healing approach called Reiki. I've had many emotional & mental benefits from it, and certainly some physical benefits too. But I disagree with the Western teacher of it who are constantly trying to utilize Reiki to emotionally heal physical maladies.

I have great belief in spiritual or energetic healing approaches, and no problem with increasing a person's positive attitudes, emotional tone, etc. That increase can be achieved by the individual by him- or herself, or evoked by an "encourager" or "facilitator".

I just do not believe that all maladies are emotional in origin - and I feel that this doctrine limits what can be accomplished. When you cite "BACTERIA, poisons, falls, hemorrhages, pharmaceuticals, Medical-mistakes, other crimes" I agree. These can be major causative factors, as can impacts (such as from falling off a ladder, a car accident, and so on).

Reiki, as an approach or system, historically originated in Japan in the 1920s. As practiced in Japan, it does not identify all illnesses as emotional in origin. This is a "new-age" idea that gained currency in Western Reiki circles since the mid 1970s.

I know that for people on this thread who've never been attuned to Reiki that what I've said here must read like an irrelevant digression, so please excuse that aspect!

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by pianoperformer

Perhaps I am taking your post the wrong way

In 2 earlier posts, I explained my position: #1, & again here No way! Jose.

Originally Posted by pianoperformer

This is why I emphasized in my post that God heals through us, not that we heal.
When we allow ourselves to think that we heal,
then I can be a better healer than you, or you can be a better healer than me.

Yes, IF I allow myself to (as I'm doing now) REgrow a "new-lung, & a new-heart";
but you don't, then I am a better healer to PRAISE God.

Originally Posted by pianoperformer

But we are not healers:

We most certainly are, for so God us created. He created
us to be healers, no doubt about it, - And so are you!

Originally Posted by pianoperformer

we are children of God

Yes in truth! we are "CHILDren of God"; and as such
we would be wise to allow ourselves to heal, and also encourage everyone else.

Originally Posted by pianoperformer

who allow Him to work through us for the betterment of others.
If we take the glory for it, we are not truly allowing God to work through us as much as He could.

Who said anything about "taking glory".
I Certainly would never do that. - But we are live to ADD... to God's glory.

The 1st exists selfish. - whereas the 2nd. lives selfless...

Do you understand the Operative difference? -

Originally Posted by pianoperformer

Maybe to you, you are better because you can heal cancer,
while another can only heal an ache or pain.
But they are really all the same.

Healing gangrene is a different matter, than healing a stubbed toe.

Likewise Healing cancering is a different matter, than healing the Common cold.

They are not the same.

[HiImJeremy]

Originally Posted by sk8joyful

Healing gangrene is a different matter, than healing a stubbed toe.

Likewise Healing cancering is a different matter, than healing the Common cold.

They are not the same.

They're not that different really.

It is your perception that they are different that makes them 'not the same' to you.

They're really just an energy made manifest within the body.

Great healers have great faith. They're also looking past the illusion of disease and what is different and more difficult to 'heal' than appears to the conscious mind.

So really they're not different. You just see them that way.

EDIT: Isn't it annoying and unnecessary when i write like that?