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Pokerman13 05-01-2007 12:55 PM

Astral Projection
 
I would like to share my first astral projection experience that happened to me recently and maybe get some tips on how to do it again and have more control.

I am definitely new to this world view and only recently started looking at everything with a open mind and really have any sort of understanding to the spiritual experiences i have had and felt.

Since as far as i can remember i have had lucid flying dreams where i have became conscious but not had to much control and just kind of went for the ride. I had brought these experiences up with people through out my life but it usually just ended with “wow thats cool” and they might relate with a similar experience but then it would just end at that. It was only recently that i brought my experiences up with someone that has done a little more research on the subject and he gave me a book to read. I will be honest i have only read the first chapter so far and went through a few of the other chapters but it was very interesting!(ya ya i will finish the book i am not a big reader i am trying my best!) One thing i found interesting was the book said that just the intent to try and astral project or lucid dream can cause it to happen and it did! I figure this will be enough background for my story so i will get on with it.

I tend to pull long sessions of work sometimes and i had been up for a lot of hours over a few day period. I had just ate a huge spaghetti meal and i was getting pretty tired so i went to lie down on my bed, i was feeling very relaxed and i was just lying on my bed. I cant really remember what i was thinking about but i was very comfortable and was probably minutes if not seconds from falling asleep.
Then next think i know I'm floating through my apartment twords the front door . I was definitely conscious, everything was kind of hazy but it was definitely my apartment. When i reached the front door i noticed the door was unlocked. Me and my bro always keep the door locked so instantly i had the intent to reach out my hand and lock the door. As my hand would of reached the lock and turned it the lock snapped to the lock position the weird thing is i never saw a hand or anything but it seemed to line up with my thought to reach out my hand and lock the door. Instantly after that i got sucked straight backwards flying through my apartment i went through the glass sliding door to my balcony i was moving at a decent pace i felt something for sure as i passed through the door but i cant quite place the feeling that i had but it was strange. I am 3 floors up on the top floor i went out over the edge of my balcony still flying backwards and went twords the ground. I started to get freaked out this was definitely more then i expected from my first experience and i thought i was going to keep flying down and go into the earth or something it was all happening so fast i was probably 10 feet from the ground flying backwards still and i got scared and aborted. I remember from my flying dreams way back that i could get out of the dream if i really wanted to it would only take a second followed by a second of body paralysis but then i would be awake and it would be over. Well i aborted and i wish i didn't! I should of kept going with it but honestly it was more then i expected.

I have tried on a few occasions since then to do it but i usually just pass out. I did wake induce a lucid dream where i went into a basement (i didn't recognize it) but when i floated around a bit i tried to pass through the floor above me but i just heard a girl screaming in the distance and then i woke up. The screaming was in my head I'm pretty sure cause i didn't hear anything after i was awake.

This all is very interesting to me and i would like to learn more if anyone has any tips or info it would be greatly appreciated.

:D

Pokerman13 05-02-2007 09:35 AM

I had another strange dream experience that i will share cause it kind of freaked me out a bit.

On the morning of Virginia Tech shooting i had a dream that really made me wonder about this whole dreaming world. I am not claiming to be psychic or anything but i will just tell you my dream as a remember it, keep in mind i had no idea of the shooting at this point and i am really new to this world view of connectedness. I have only been looking into it for a couple months now and i have been keeping a very open mind about everything.

The dream took place in a multi floor school with long hallways and the typical spiral stairs. I was standing in a hallway on the bottom floor and about 5 people were standing in a circle thats including me. A old friend of mine jon was there i didn't recognize him by his face i just seemed to think it was him. Next thing that happed was 3 of the 4 other people were laying dead on the floor i didn't see them die or shot or anything but they were definitely dead and i just remember being extremely terrified. The two people left standing were me and jon. I just remember feeling like jon wanted to kill me and he wasn't going to stop until i was dead and this brought me a lot of fear. Next part of my dream i was running through out the school up the stairs down the halls this part is pretty vague but i just remember the extreme fear of jon coming to kill me at all costs. Next part i was thinking i just wanted my mom there with all my heart and next thing i know she was there. She lead me to the front doors of the school i assume the front doors because it was multi wide doors. When we went through the doors there was a authority figure standing outside he didn't look like a cop or a security guard but i had this sense that he was of authority i just remember thinking get the hell out of my way we are out of here. He was trying to stop us and get in our way but that wasn't stopping me hah i was freaked out. He followed me and my mom through the parking lot through about 4 rows of cars trying to stop us i don't remember words in the dream mostly just images and feelings and i was getting the sense he wanted to stop us. We got in a car a burned it out of the parking lot and up a hill and thats where my dream ended.

I woke up it was about 1100am i didn't really wake up terrified by the end of my dream i felt safe but i remember the feelings during the dream very specific. I got up went to my computer sat down my brother was already up at his computer and he said there has been a school shooting like 30 people dead.... I was like What..... hes like yea crazy massacre lots of people dead i was like What.... it was really just sinking in i told him my story and he thought it was pretty strange. I'm not sure if it was just crazy coincidence lol but it was hell of timing. I do not usually remember my dreams and only since i started learning about lucid dreaming have i started to remember.

I would like to think i was feeling what those kids at that school were going through and it makes sense with this world view of connectedness but like i said this is all very new to me.

Any comments or questions or tips or anything would be greatly appreciated i am very interested in learning more and i will keep reading but i feel its good to get it all down and what better place then here.

Also i would like to say thanks to Steve and Erin your sites and forums are a awesome resource keep up the good work!

peace

JMan 05-10-2007 03:28 PM

Amazing stories - you are definitely 'connecting'. Have you been able to further control any of your experiences?

Pokerman13 05-10-2007 10:31 PM

I have been preoccupied with life and haven't been able or even tried more the a few times to wake induce lucid dreams (WILD) but i have been working on doing regular reality checks to help me induce lucid dreams while I'm sleeping. My dream recall is weak and I remember only 1 dream a night at the most so i have been keeping a dream journal to help with that.

I can remember when i was younger having quite a few flying dreams that i guess were lucid but pretty much it would just wake me conscious then i would ride it out till i woke up. Now I'm learning that i have total control so I'm really trying to figure it out. I had my first totally lucid dream about a week ago.

It started off with 2 really crazy dreams in my apartment the first one was quite long and it even got stressful and i tried to wake myself but it didn't work and i had a false awakening. So i woke up in another dream that was similar until it got stressful again and i tried to wake myself and i had another false awakening which is strange because i never even remember having one false awakening before never mind 2. Only reason i knew about it was from reading in a lucid dream book. So then i woke into my third dream came into my office and my brother was sitting there and i started to tell him my dreams and i was like wait a second something doesn't seem right... Reality check! and boom i was totally lucid.

(It was strange that in my other dreams i thought to wake myself up instead of do a reality check because i just wanted out when the third dream was the most normal but i thought to do a reality check)

I was like sweet and said bro im gonna try and conjure some stuff so i held out my hand and said sword! and a second later this little dagger formed in my hand it was really strange it took shape then all the texture filled in my bro laughed at me cause it was like a 3 inch blade a dagger if anything i laughed and dropped it on our desk. It was totally empowering i couldn't believe it i stuck out my hands and said bamboo stick and a 4 foot stick formed in my hands within a second or two. Next i stuck out my hand and said firecracker and the smallest firecracker formed i was like boo so i thought a box of firecrackers would be more fun so i conjured a box i think i was gonna light them off but i got caught up in the conjuring fun hah. I stuck out my hand and said handgun... a pretty sweet handgun formed and i pumped the clip into the wall just to see if it would work i don't remember noise but it all seemed so real it was awesome.

(On a side not i am not sure why i was conjuring weapons I'm not a violent person by any means quite the opposite i think it might be because of all the video games i have played and my first two dreams involved unwanted guests coming into my apartment.)

It was funny my bro was just hanging out with me through this kinda smiling at me like finally you figured this stuff out but at the same time i knew he was just a creation of my mind it was really weird. I was like lets go see if i can fly we went out on to my balcony and i leaped off i didn't really fly more like floated down to the ground in front of our apartment. I landed softly he was standing up on the third floor cheering for me. Just as a landed the hottest blond chick i have ever seen walked past me. I was thinking time to pull a superman i took her in my arms and thought I'm gonna fly back up to my bro, I concentrate jump everything is going good until i am half way up and then i get "distracted"... honestly i started to get a 'hard on' lack of better words and it woke me up lol.

I woke up totally empowered (not because of the chick because of the lucid dream!) it was a great feeling quite exciting i really want to master this skill i think it would be great to practice real life skills and communicate with my subconscious and what not.

Comparing these 3 experiences they all felt quite different the first one was like a oobe it has this strange feel to it a lot different then in a dream state.(From what i have been reading it seems i was just going into the realworld plane and its like noobland for astral projection) The second one that about Virgina tech was all images and feelings it was like i wasnt actually there i don't know how to describe it... and the lucid dream was like any other dream except i was lucid and and full control and knew who i was and that i was actually asleep and it was all in my head.

I really would like to go farther down this path and it seems that lucid dreaming is a lot easier then astral projection i have this ebook to read about astral projection and its huge so i figure thats a start. I already feel i have to tools to be able to lucid dream every night its just gonna take some practice and apply myself. With astral projection I feel like i have so much to learn about chakras and meditation it is kinda scary compared to the dreaming but I'm still very interested.

I have a cool story about telling my mom about this but i will write that in the next post.

Pokerman13 05-10-2007 11:13 PM

A little background... I am 24 years old and have a good relationship with my mom i moved out when i was 17 and since then i have not seen her much mostly just contact through emails and calls and visit a couple times a year at the most. I am not gonna get into my life story to much but we were close and she has been spiritual throughout my life and i remember her always talking about being connected and what not. I started down this path on my own with my bro mostly because of some world bubbles that got popped and really lead to trying to have a open mind about everything. (I have had some spiritual experiences that i couldnt never explain but now it seems i have a path to go down to try and understand) So its defiantly interesting that i came to a similar point that my mom has been but it seems that she has went a lot farther. I wrote her a email and linked to this thread that had my first two posts i wanted to see what she had to say about it. Well the response kinda blew me away so i will just post it here it makes me happy and i hope to connect more with her on this stuff.

My moms response

"Hi Sweetheart - no problem you didn't call - once I got your email I was content you were fine. I probably felt it that morning you had the dream like the Virg. Tech shooting.....

Ok - Astral Travel



Funny back in my teenage days (30 years ago) that’s what it was called….and then Soul Travel was more popular for years….now that name is back :)

Being that I’m 15 months away from 50 years old – I have a billion stories in this area (not really that many!)

Don’t you remember Adam – I’d always ask you kids when you were real young if you had flying dreams!!!!



When I was about 5 years old (maybe younger) I clearly remember almost yelling up to God – ‘Why am I here?! Why did you send me here? Did I say I wanted to come here? I want to come back!’ That had to come from inside of me – where else could it have come from…..?

In those very young years I would get these conscious flashes of being way way out in the universe where there was nothing….wondering what the heck everything was about. (I came to think that was when there was just God. No planets, people etc…)

My first Astral experience was when I was about 11 or 12. It was so lucid you can remember every detail for life. I was falling asleep (it will always happen right on the verge of sleep) I fell out of bed then floated to the ceiling. Then I realized my body was catatonic – tried to move my fingers - anything -and couldn’t. Any fear or strong emotion snaps you back into your body. A few more happened and then when I was 18 living in Vancouver BC with a girlfriend I was told about all the books. I read them all and couldn’t believe others had the exact same experiences. I’d always felt different from my family like I was adopted or something – this made that feeling stronger.



Learning about the silver cord connecting your soul body to the physical body is important. Some see it – I haven’t. I just love the huge rush feeling as it starts to happen – I smile and go with it and in a second I’m traveling at a million miles an hour to who knows where. The experiences that are on our physical realm like your apartment are cool – but there are so many other realms way cooler. I went to this Blue place once…oh my word – what a feeling of bliss. Once when I was pregnant with Jayna I traveled through my horrid varicose veins….. I’ve gone to the moon – traveled over Semiamhoo Bay -all kinds of experiences.

I started looking for how to control it since I was 17 – first I had to control the fear and learn I could float through walls…..that is a tough one.



Eventually I came to know that through meditation you can bring on the most incredible experiences. After many many workshops and many books I did succeed so that I could go places at will. Once it was the hell realm – very very weird. I haven’t felt fear and there is no linear time when you go places through meditation.



Learning to wrap myself in God’s protective shield of white light before sleep or meditation is very important – VERY! (there are evil forces in these realms)



Meditation is not easy – it takes a lot of time and dedication….. I only had that ability before my MS – since then I’ve fallen away from the discipline and haven’t had too many experiences.

Ok – this is the weirdest Adam – are you ready? …..at one point I was in touch with my guardian angels – I knew their names. Then I could allow other angels to speak through me…. No kidding. I stopped after the MS – a couple of suspicious thing happened where I thought a bad energy got in…. It most likely wasn’t related but I stopped anyway…..



The rush that comes before you travel is normally from two places- your crown chakra – top of the head or heart chakra….. (that’s me) the energy builds up there and whoooosh it goes out and you’re flying.



There ya go – weird mamma hey?



Love you xoxoxo (very cool that you are writing for that community Adam :))
"

I thought i would share this i know these posts are long and i dont really expect anyone to read through it all it just feels good to get it all down. Thanks for reading if you have made it this far i will probably write more as my journey continues.

Peace and love

Pokerman13 05-18-2007 11:47 PM

I had a strange experience last night in my adventure of lucid dreaming and astral projection that i thought i would add to my post.

When i fell asleep last night i went straight into a dream it was nothing out of the ordinary but it ended with me becoming lucid while shaking the hand of some strange dream character. I was like "I'm dreaming get out of here" but then everything faded to black. Next i was in some weird state between dreaming and awake i was conscious but not awake wherever i would focus my attention a small area would look like it was trying to form into a dream this went on for like 10 seconds.

Then it felt like i was rolling off the edge of my bed slowly.. all this pressure formed everywhere on my body evenly spaced like someone was pushing on all parts of my body with the end of a baseball bat it was very strange and quite unpleasant it felt like i dropped on to the floor and rolled over i don't have any memory of anything visual it was all just the feeling. The pressure was increasing and i didn't like it so i tried to abort it took 2-3 seconds which created a decent amount of anxiety but then i was awake and lying in my bed.

The rest of the night was filled with long dreams that were very negative... i don't usually remember more then one dream a night but the dreams seemed to go all night and i could remember them all.(Maybe my dream journal is working as intended heh) I wont get into them all but just a few points. At one point i was trying to get out of this room area but the only way out was this wire entrance i was getting stuck trying to squeeze through when out of nowhere this old lady with white hair comes up to my face and screams "IM GOING TO DIE@!#@" it didn't wake me up just threw me into another dream. Another disturbing part of the night was when i was in this house with 10-15 people and everyone was getting killed i was never there for the killing it was like my perspective kept changing to stay away from the carnage but i knew what was going down. All night were nightmares i guess you could say but i wasn't scared at all maybe some anxiety but it was more of a observation point of view.

I'm not sure if my experience at the beginning of my sleep had anything to do with the rest of the night but it sure felt like a negative energy grabbed a hold of me.

This all sounds pretty negative but i am definitely taking the positive out of it and trying to learn from it and hope my journey lightens up a bit. I am happy i remember so many of my dreams i just hope to be able to go lucid and have long nights of positive dreams heh.

Peace and love

Anagogy 05-20-2007 12:13 AM

Really interesting stuff Pokerman. Thanks for sharing.

Mayo 05-20-2007 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokerman13 (Post 72431)
"I'm dreaming get out of here"

(note: not related to astral)

Haha, i hate that .. esp. when your in a nightmare and bashing zombies like dolls :D but they keep coming and coming.. and coming and you say to your self.. man i m really blocked in this building, i can run and use my hands freely but i cant control this area .. i better wake up.. but you realize you cant do it so quickly and they keep coming.. and eventually you see the images of them in the state between dream and reality.. :eek:

Calculusaurus 06-02-2007 04:16 AM

Thanks for the posts, Adam. I'm currently in the process of learning lucid dreaming, so it's great to read about the personal experiences of others.

(I personally have no advice to give, since I've yet to be lucid and haven't had an OBE yet. Sorry :))

Pokerman13 06-02-2007 07:09 PM

I am half way through this book Astral dynamics, heres a link to the site of the guy who wrote it.

Astral Dynamics | Astral Projection, Energy Body, Healing, Kundalini, Auras, Self-Defense

Robert Bruce is very experienced with this subject and i feel like i will be getting the hang of it in no time. I don't think its very hard to AP its just about understanding how it works and i think he breaks it down very good. The forums on that site have some interesting posts on the subject.

Thanks for the replies i will continue to post my experiences as i have them. :D
I posted another cool experience I had in this thread.
http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/p...ng-dreams.html

Peace and love

Pokerman13 06-23-2008 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokerman13 (Post 77051)
I posted another cool experience I had in this thread.
http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/p...ng-dreams.html

Peace and love


"So last night i went to lie down on my bed i was feeling pretty tired but wasn't sure if i was gonna go to sleep yet. I was just resting i guess 40 mins went by i was dozing off but kinda bouncing back cause i was still clothed and just laying on top of my covers. I dozed off and woke to some extreme vibrations i was instantly aware of what was going on because i have experienced them before and have been doing some reading on astral projection. Next i starting hearing these two people talk one person was talking about personal development related talk and the other person awsered a couple times it was loud and clear. The other couple times i was in this state is was more loud noises or screaming off in the distant where i couldn't make out what was being said. I was lying on my side and next i tried to separate from my body i started to do a push up (This was in my head as i was still laying still on my bed) it was weird as i pushed the vibrations even got more intense it was a very heavy push up but it actually felt like i was doing a push up. I felt like i was half way up like my arms where straight out and i was pushing against my bed but my bottom half was stuck. Then i thought my bro came in my room and clear as day said "Hey man you sleeping?""I guess hes sleeping..." It kinda just trailed off like he was walking out of the room. Next i heard him in the kitchen messing around in the sink. Thats when i saw this little bubble in my vision it first started off as very small (Keep in mind during all this im stuck in a half push up with the most intense vibrations i have ever felt) I focused on the little bubble and it grew very fast and all of a sudden i was floating through my apartment my brother was standing at the sink i floated right by him and around the hall then i started to sink twords the ground. I got kinda anxious at this point and decided to wake my self up i didn't really get the sleep paralysis like i have had before so within a second i was back in my bed laying there.

At first i thought this was a astral projection i jumped out of bed went into the living room/office and said "hey man i just astral projected!" He was excited for me i asked him if he was just standing at the kitchen sink? "no sorry man" i was like hmmm... I asked him "just a min ago did you come in my room and ask me if i was sleeping?" "No man" he started to look kinda freaked out. He explained that he had just been sitting at his comp the entire time chatting with a friend but just before i got up he said he was thinking about asking me if i was going to bed and if i wanted some coffee he was going to make. After further review it seems i was tapping into his thoughts or something the voices before my astral push up were him talking on msn with his buddy in china cause personal development was the topic of conversation.

What i think happened was i was half way from separating from my body when i jumped into a lucid dream of what i thought was going on in my apartment I think the reason i was floating around was i thought i was astral projecting (Not the first time i dreamed i astral projected i once had a false awakening in the middle of the night then dreamed i astral projected)

I know alot of this is nothing like your experience but the voices part seemed similar i hope to have more luck down this path it all seems very intriguing. I have a 200 page ebook to read on astral projection so i am sure that will help in my journey.

Peace and love"

Jarrod 06-23-2008 03:12 AM

Many times I've woken up after having a dream pulled out my dream journal and wrote it all down. Then gone back to sleep.

In the morning (or later at night) I would wake up from another dream, go to write it down and see that the page is empty! I was dreaming that I was writing down my dream.

How annoying.


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