Death

[CLOCKWORKSC]

With what we know about NDE and OBE and the Afterlife

Do any of you fear death ?


Personally i dont fear death.
I think death will be amazing once you are there in the "real World".

I wouldnt want to die just yet as i want to experience alot more things with my time.
But eveuntually when the time comes , i will accept death and be happy to accept it.

Daniel.
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[Slorri]

Yes, I fear death.
If something rushes against me, like a motorcar or something, I move to the side so it will not hit me and kill me. It's probably like a gut feeling, to preserve life.

Eventually we all die, and I don't worry over that, because there's nothing to worry about.

[SunnyDays]

No, I don't fear death even though , same like you, I want to live a few more years

Not sure I was ever scared of it - I just see it as a part of the whole and I do believe that there is more than just the life here

My mother in law for example was married to a man who didn't believe in it at all but just recently he came through again threw a medium and apologized to her for behaviours no stranger could have known ..and so did my father a while ago

In my view, no there is nothing to worry about apart from any regrets you might have thats why I try to make sure I do not have any

[ButterflyWoman]

Originally Posted by CLOCKWORKSC

Do any of you fear death ?

Nup. I haven't since I was about twelve and I had an extraordinary dream that left an extremely deep impression on me. I haven't feared death since then.

Of course, I do have normal survival instinct (I jump out of the way of oncoming traffic, for example, and I don't use electrical appliances in the bath, etc), and I still have some things to do here, but as for the actual "death is a frightening prospect" thing, nah. None of that.

[angel A]

I don't fear death at all but i fear the way i die. eg a painful illness.

[bluestar]

We're programed to survive. Our instinct to survive has to be one of the strongest things ever. We are meant to be intimately connected to this world while we live in it.
But sure, when the time comes to die I am certain it will be accepted with equanimity and probably no fear.

I used to have a friend who lived in Russia once. He was involved in a plane crash between Moscow and what was then Leningrad (St Petersburg) He told me that as the plane was going down he "knew" he was about to die, and got the oddest feelings. No panic, no worry, just acceptance. He said it felt quite good. He told me all fear was completely wiped away and it seemed quite out of his conscious-will control. It just happened.
Now in the event, the plane did not crash, but crash-landed. Some people were slightly injured but no-one seriously. And he was unhurt, but everyone was shocked of course.
It was afterwards he felt horrible and phobic of going on planes again.
But at the time he thought he was facing death, he said he felt ok about it.

[DarkTears]

I dont really fear death, but im the same with Angel A, I dont want to feel all the pain or for a matter of fact I just dont want to see my self about to die.........I would rather die in my sleep.............. a painless death when not even knowing that im going to die...........

[Irisha]

Sure, I fear death. All those theorizing that they don't would still follow the instinct to preserve their lives, and it means that they also do fear death. The question about fear of death doesn't have sense if it is asked for the sake of theorizing. We can theorize about death, but not about the fear of death. And when it happens that one is facing the death in the real circumstances they would certainly fear it. (That is why those people in the Bluestar's example were shocked after the crash-landing. That's why her friend was phobic of going by planes after the crash. All he said afterwards was different from his real experience. I mean all looked different for him after that stress. And at the very moment of the upcoming crash he just could do nothing but accept). But it's obvious that the instinct to survive is stronger than theorizing of no fear of death. When I asked the old people if the fear death they all said yes. They all said they wanted to live more and more. How can younger people say that they do not fear death? Or have I misunderstood it?

[justanumber]

well i can honestly say that i do not fear death because life is the real Hell. i know for a fact that once i die,it is game over and i will never again be consciously aware. i am excited when i go to sleep because i know that there may be a chance that i will never wake up. a lot of people delude themselves with religion or belief in an afterlife,but i am one of those people who knows what real life is and i accept it. i am not old but i know that i will die soon and i am not scared at all.

[angel A]

I had a dream ,quite a number of years ago and i don't think i have posted it before but if i have i appologise.

I was sitting in a waitng room, of some sort just, waiting with another person and feeling quite relaxed.Someone came into the room and took the other person away with them. A short while later another person( do not know if it was male or female, because although they were standing right inftont of me , the features were blurry, but i will refer to them as he, and my guide)came to fetch me and said that they would show me around.

The first stop was a large hall. A very tall person dressed in gold,stood on a podium, facing an audience of people sitting in chairs. I knew that the person was an Angel.Behind the Angel were lots of people who seemed to be pointing to members of the audience, as if in recognition,smiling and then waving to them.The mebers of the audience seemed extremely happy!

My guide turned to me and said, more in my head than verbally, they have recognised their loved ones.We then walked down some very white corridors. In one of them was a large window. Through the window i could see the most beautiful sky i have ever seen, all beautiful pinks,lilacs and blues. I commented to my guide that i was suprised that they had a sky, but was glad they did because the thing i would miss most on earth is the sky.

He then took me outside and i was facing a beautiful sea bay.He walked out in to the sea and told me to follow buti was afraid as i have a fear of deep water. He reasured me that, no matter how far out i walked ,the water would only come up to my waist.

In the water many people were swimming or just standing and i noticed one man who seemed to be limping. I was shocked, and said so to my guide,that afflictions still exsisted for people,but i was told in the exact words,which i have never forgotten,"He has not adjusted yet and is still clinging to his earthly life, when he adjusts he will loose the limp" To that i replied that if this is death than why do people fear dying so much. i am no longer afraid!

That dream has stayed with me in every detail. I feel like i was shown ,for whatever reason, a glimpse of the next exsistence. I also feel that i am supposed to tell the dream to as many people as possible.

This is why i no longer fear death!

[Oceans]

I don’t fear death too much….but we’ll see when it happens when the time comes

Speaking of dreams, I once had one where I was shot twice in the chest.

I was like, “hell No I’m not gonna die!” I then proceeded to go into my wounds with my hand, one at a time, in search of the bullets. I can actually remember feeling inside my chest- crazy feeling!

The first bullet I took out easily but the second I pushed in further and had to awkwardly get it from deeper in my chest (pushing it in further was another very strange feeling!) I got up, thought I must be dreaming for what I just did and then went to find some girls to have fun with in a semi-lucid state

As I was about to fool around with my ex (in the dream) I had remembered I had been shot so I looked at my chest to see the wounds healed. I then went in search for the bullets I disregarded earlier and woke up. It’s one of my top dreams I’ve had.

I generally tend not to die in dreams. For example I also ALWAYS land from high heights when falling and never wake up on impact like many others do.

[ButterflyWoman]

Originally Posted by Irisha

All those theorizing that they don't would still follow the instinct to preserve their lives, and it means that they also do fear death.

That's a pretty big assumption. "I don't want to do that right now" is not the same as "I am afraid to do that".

[bluestar]

Originally Posted by Irisha

Sure, I fear death. All those theorizing that they don't would still follow the instinct to preserve their lives, and it means that they also do fear death. The question about fear of death doesn't have sense if it is asked for the sake of theorizing. We can theorize about death, but not about the fear of death. And when it happens that one is facing the death in the real circumstances they would certainly fear it. (That is why those people in the Bluestar's example were shocked after the crash-landing. That's why her friend was phobic of going by planes after the crash. All he said afterwards was different from his real experience. I mean all looked different for him after that stress. And at the very moment of the upcoming crash he just could do nothing but accept). But it's obvious that the instinct to survive is stronger than theorizing of no fear of death. When I asked the old people if the fear death they all said yes. They all said they wanted to live more and more. How can younger people say that they do not fear death? Or have I misunderstood it?

I wonder actually (considering my friend's case when he said he felt no fear)-if the primal fear might have been so overwhelming that the Soul kind of shut down in a way -and what was left was a state of almost no emotion, because the alternative wouldn't be worth contemplating? And only after the event, the Soul opened up again (kind of) and then the reality hit?

[bluestar]

Originally Posted by Oceans

I don’t fear death too much….but we’ll see when it happens when the time comes

Speaking of dreams, I once had one where I was shot twice in the chest.

I was like, “hell No I’m not gonna die!” I then proceeded to go into my wounds with my hand, one at a time, in search of the bullets. I can actually remember feeling inside my chest- crazy feeling!

The first bullet I took out easily but the second I pushed in further and had to awkwardly get it from deeper in my chest (pushing it in further was another very strange feeling!) I got up, thought I must be dreaming for what I just did and then went to find some girls to have fun with in a semi-lucid state

As I was about to fool around with my ex (in the dream) I had remembered I had been shot so I looked at my chest to see the wounds healed. I then went in search for the bullets I disregarded earlier and woke up. It’s one of my top dreams I’ve had.

I generally tend not to die in dreams. For example I also ALWAYS land from high heights when falling and never wake up on impact like many others do.

I had a lot of dreams where I died. By being torn apart....by drowning etc (total yuck) In most of the dreams, the moment of death was like an epiphany. Everything was more than fine! weird.

I think I am a bit scared, myself. Of course I am. But I would rather have death itself than lots and lots of suffering.

[Irisha]

Originally Posted by bluestar

I wonder actually (considering my friend's case when he said he felt no fear)-if the primal fear might have been so overwhelming that the Soul kind of shut down in a way -and what was left was a state of almost no emotion, because the alternative wouldn't be worth contemplating? And only after the event, the Soul opened up again (kind of) and then the reality hit?

Oh, yes, I think the fear when one really faces death is overwhelming. People don't have time to control their state of mind.
Right now I also can say, just say, that I don't fear death. I am even curious about how it feels, and what it will be like at the very moment and after... ( Nothing. Black Nothingness.) But if I , - and any other person, I think, - meet a killer with a knife, for ex., then even if they believe in Life After Death, they will have a fear. Or they are supposed to be able to be in full command of their subconscious mind to control this primary instinct.

[angel A]

Originally Posted by Irisha

Oh, yes, I think the fear when one really faces death is overwhelming. People don't have time to control their state of mind.
Right now I also can say, just say, that I don't fear death. I am even curious about how it feels, and what it will be like at the very moment and after... ( Nothing. Black Nothingness.) But if I , - and any other person, I think, - meet a killer with a knife, for ex., then even if they believe in Life After Death, they will have a fear. Or they are supposed to be able to be in full command of their subconscious mind to control this primary instinct.

It's human nature to survive and fight for their life if they had to! Even though i believe in life after death and do not fear death it's self i would run for my life in fear if faced with a knife man! I think every one has a fear of pain and the way in which they might die, but some of us know that the actual passing, from this life to the next, is nothing to fear!

[ButterflyWoman]

Originally Posted by bluestar

I had a lot of dreams where I died. By being torn apart....by drowning etc (total yuck) In most of the dreams, the moment of death was like an epiphany. Everything was more than fine!

I've had many similar dreams. I've been shot (after being hunted by hit men), electrocuted, fallen from a great height, and various dreams where there was no clear cause but in which I died. I've even had a few where I dreamed I was a ghost or in another dimension, and I knew I was dead.

This is not, by the way, why I don't fear death. It's just something that's been happening to me for a long time. The very significant dream I had at the age of twelve was something else entirely and very deeply personal.

I don't actually claim to know anything about an "afterlife" or anything else of that sort. I just know that I WILL die, sooner or later, and I don't want to spend my life fearing something that is absolutely inevitable and which happens to absolutely everyone. Whatever happens, happens.

(I do actually hold a perspective of time as an illusion -- something Einstein pointed out -- and from that perspective, there is no "after" or "before" or anything else, so for me, it's really all kind of moot, but that's probably another discussion ).

[bluestar]

Originally Posted by CaterpillarWoman

(I do actually hold a perspective of time as an illusion -- something Einstein pointed out -- and from that perspective, there is no "after" or "before" or anything else, so for me, it's really all kind of moot, but that's probably another discussion ).

Now I love that....

[localrobert]

I'm not afraid of death. I think it will be a real nice experience. I'm not anticipating it however. Things are great on earth as they are.

[Bonadea]

I didn't until I moved to this house, but it feels like someone else's energy.

(I've tried cleansing it many many times)

I think it's the former owner. She had very nasty energy.

But if it wasn't, her mother passed here. It's old battleground and Native American's lived directly in/on our neighborhood in the summer.

[supremeDMK]

I never died in a dream (I have however been stabbed, beaten etc. in a dream). But one of the most amazing and terrifying moments was during a more or less accidental meditation session in which I suddenly wondered what it would be like if death is final and suddenly it felt as if my entire existance was being erased. Never been so scared in my entire life.

[newsight]

Although i am not scared of death, i am not ready to die and would fight tooth and nail to survive for two reasons.

My kids, i love them and my daughter is only three years old and she needs me.

My father has already lost his two sons and it almost destroyed him, and i know if he lost me too he would be emotionally destroyed, and i could not bear to be the cause of that.

[wanzulfikri]

Well, death is actually the greatest motivation. If you know that death will come anytime,you will have fears. It is up to people to use the fear and improving themselves.

People who use fear the right way will do things that can contribute to the development of himself and others. While the one who succumbs to fear and feel weak, wiill do things that makes them 'die' before their true death comes.

[What3ver]

I don't fear death, but the way I'm going to die.

[Apresto]

I hope for an unpainful death, or even more to the topic, a death that is not to be expected as then is the time when the fear of it increases the most!

It's really strange how so much people have had dreams about death(including myself). Maybe it's a way of the universe, or an instinct program inside us preparing us for the end.

[wanzulfikri]

Originally Posted by Apresto

I hope for an unpainful death, or even more to the topic, a death that is not to be expected as then is the time when the fear of it increases the most!

It's really strange how so much people have had dreams about death(including myself). Maybe it's a way of the universe, or an instinct program inside us preparing us for the end.

I think it is a way of The Higher Self to remind you of death. You're lucky to have that kind of dreams. It serves as a reminder that tells us how we are mortal and will die one day.

[ButterflyWoman]

Originally Posted by wanzulfikri

If you know that death will come anytime,you will have fears. It is up to people to use the fear and improving themselves.

I know death can come at any time. I am not afraid of that, because there's no point in fearing it. It will come when it comes, and that's that. Spending a lot of energy being afraid is a waste of energy. I also don't find fear to be a great motivator. I know some people do, but when I fear, I do the bare minimum to keep the fear at bay, while remaining afraid. Joy and bliss are far better motivators, in my experience.

[cacheborn]

My perspective on Death underwent a paradigm shift when I read and watched lectures of J. Krishnamurti. I have not mastered it, far from it but it was a wake up call the likes of which I had never seen.

J. Krishnamurti - About Life and Death - YouTube

If you resonate with that, there is a fuller version.

KRISHNAMURTI : Dialogue on Death - Part 1. - YouTube

[Vintage Chef]

Maybe thats why I want to AP..... so I wont have fear