Astral Battles

[Erin Pavlina]

For those of you who find yourself encountering big bads on the astral plane, this article is for you:

Astral Battles: Fighting the Big Bads

Don't go out there without a plan and some protection.

[frosting]

Great article. When i was more into trying to astral travel a friend of mine warned me with its popularity and "dabblers" getting into it AP was becoming more dangerous. After a succubus attack I've mostly stayed meditating.

Can some of your tips in the articles also help with meditation?
Lately when i try to reach my higher source it spirals into something nasty. This happened around 2,3 AM so maybe it was just the time?

[Erin Pavlina]

You want to meditate at a time when you can keep your vibration high and not let it spiral into that. You also need to make sure that something isn't pulling you down. If you're letting yourself fall, that's something else entirely.

[bluestar]

Fighting the big bads is a great article. Thank you Erin.
I had occasions where things switched really rapidly from one thing to another....peace one second, something scary the next second....me doing my usual (that is dashing out of range/sight like greased lightning!) and then peace again and so on...and very hard to predict. I didn't go out scared or anything, but these unstable situations seemed to happen.
I always found get the heck out to be my weapon of choice when there was anything I didn't like....and must be kind of mercurial or slippery because it usually worked.
I got really raging mad with anything I didn't like that stuck around much longer than I liked on a few rare occasions....that seemed to blast it.
Nothing worse than something a big baddie thinks looks tasty and sweet, and good pickings, then it finds out it has fangs!

[frosting]

Thanks Erin I'll keep those tips in mind. If things don't get better with my meditation I'll likely end up making a post about it.

[Niecedenise]

I am not currently interested in AP, at least until I can get myself more sorted out. Though, I think I may have experienced it before. Looks like a great article!

Erin, I know I'm a complete stranger and have no idea who you are but just wanted to say that something about you seems very familiar to me. Feels serene, and caring. Maybe something special about you

No, I'm not psychic or anything like that. Just a feeling I got.

[theuprising]

Wouldn't it always be most wise to call upon angels rather than fighting? I think you in fact said this in another one of your articles. I wonder what happens if the evil entity "wins"?

I wouldn't know who to call.. can I call on Jesus? lol

[theuprising]

Originally Posted by bluestar

Fighting the big bads is a great article. Thank you Erin.
I had occasions where things switched really rapidly from one thing to another....peace one second, something scary the next second....me doing my usual (that is dashing out of range/sight like greased lightning!) and then peace again and so on...and very hard to predict. I didn't go out scared or anything, but these unstable situations seemed to happen.
I always found get the heck out to be my weapon of choice when there was anything I didn't like....and must be kind of mercurial or slippery because it usually worked.
I got really raging mad with anything I didn't like that stuck around much longer than I liked on a few rare occasions....that seemed to blast it.
Nothing worse than something a big baddie thinks looks tasty and sweet, and good pickings, then it finds out it has fangs!

lol wouldn't this attract like minded hate-filled entities?

[Erin Pavlina]

Originally Posted by theuprising

Wouldn't it always be most wise to call upon angels rather than fighting? I think you in fact said this in another one of your articles. I wonder what happens if the evil entity "wins"?

I wouldn't know who to call.. can I call on Jesus? lol

You can call upon Jesus, yes. I've done that with great success.

Yes it would be most wise to call on the angels from the get go. Just like it's most wise to avoid simple carbs, but sometimes you just do something you know ain't the healthiest thing for ya.

[Nimue]

Can you fight the "big baddies" without astral projecting? I remember a person I met, who looked really beautiful and dominating at first, but she was self-destructive and a f***ing huge bag of negativeness. The other friends of mine just found her presence to be tiring, as the hours passed, but I can honestly say I've never felt anything like this before. I tried to use the mild incantation I use for the bad eye to see if I can drag something out of her, when no one was looking, and the result was that I couldn't stop yawning and crying. It was so disappointing. Totally out of my league, as if I were trying to empty a small lake with a bucket. I don't know what a demon is, but that's how I imagine they would feel.

Do you think there's anything I could have done?

[hirukio514]

I find demons spirits non threatening.You just have to face them if they suck out your energy its because your too affraid and let them attack you.The first time I was very affraid then I tried doing autosuggestion and I no longer have that problem.At first I tried imaginating a white light around me,thinking positive toughts and cleaning my aura but that doesnt help.While doing this method deep in your subconsious your still affraid and your just ignoring the truth.Just like in lucid dream you should always face your fears.

[Nimue]

Thx
So the less fear you've got, the strongest you are? Is it that simple?
My weak point is my self-confidence, but I can fix that pretty soon if I aim high

If there really was a demon or something like that in the occasion I described, it WAS threatening. The lady has almost gotten herself killed several times.

It's strange: I tend to "see"when someone has a problem because of my empathy. It first happened with my gran, who gradually became mentally ill, and I were getting more afraid to get near her, without seeing anything wrong (it all got revealed later). I have no idea about what demons could ever be, I've always thought they're just human negativeness-that lady was the first time I ever felt overwhelmed enough to even consider their existence.

[Rezzy7]

Second, create a shield of light around your body, so that if it does attack you, its energy bounces off your shield. You create a shield using your will, just like you created your sword.

Robert Monroe advised always creating a resonant energy balloon prior to projecting. Would that not make confrontation unnecessary? He and Robert Bruce also say baddies go away if you command them to. Apparently your experiences have been different.

Monroe was talking about out of body experiences, you're talking about astral projection, and it seems there is some discussion about them being two distinctly different things, so maybe that's why. I haven't yet experienced either consciously, but I make a balloon no matter what. And I do sleep with a light on, to allay fear.

[Dreamweave]

Erin i've tried to find you in the astral realm and duel you in an epic battle lol
Of course, the fact that i cant astral project gets in the way
One of these days Erin! One of these days!

[Erin Pavlina]

Originally Posted by Rezzy7

[COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"]Robert Monroe advised always creating a resonant energy balloon prior to projecting. Would that not make confrontation unnecessary? He and Robert Bruce also say baddies go away if you command them to. Apparently your experiences have been different.

The baddies DO go away if commanded to. But sometimes you're in such a state of fear that you can't even muster the power and will to command them to leave. Or sometimes you're being attacked or drained so fast you can't pull yourself together. Then you want the angels to step in and get it off you.

[Erin Pavlina]

Originally Posted by Dreamweave

Erin i've tried to find you in the astral realm and duel you in an epic battle lol
Of course, the fact that i cant astral project gets in the way
One of these days Erin! One of these days!

LOL. Bring IT Dreamweave

Astral cage match.

[theuprising]

Originally Posted by hirukio514

I find demons spirits non threatening.You just have to face them if they suck out your energy its because your too affraid and let them attack you.The first time I was very affraid then I tried doing autosuggestion and I no longer have that problem.At first I tried imaginating a white light around me,thinking positive toughts and cleaning my aura but that doesnt help.While doing this method deep in your subconsious your still affraid and your just ignoring the truth.Just like in lucid dream you should always face your fears.

wth is an autosuggestion??

[Nimue]

Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina

LOL. Bring IT Dreamweave

Astral cage match.

Is that even possible? Teach me how to do it! Pleeeeeeease!!!

[jellybeanpimp]

I think that these negative entities are very attracted to us because we are at a higher vibration. Most humans would probably be at a higher vibration than them, but humans with an especially high vibration would be the most appealing. When they knock you down, they do steal your energy, and I don't think it supplies them with anything but a brief jolt but it is still a brief jolt nonetheless.

I guess it's kind of like when people are jealous of another and they do something mean to them and it makes them feel better. There is some weird kind of energetic transfer that occurs when you bring something that is on a higher level than you down a notch.

Their existence baffles me. I know some people say that we are kind of inhabiting the middle ground between the upper and lower dimensions. A part of me believes that the spirits that inhabit these lower dimensions are spirits who are so in the red, karmically speaking, that they must go to a much lower dimension of existence to balance what they have sent out into the universe. I'm definitely someone who believes in a form of Hell, that is a punishment that people impose on themselves when they force another to incur a negative experience, and the intensity of this lower state of existence totally depends on what they have done. If we have jails on this plane of existence, is it really so far-fetched to imagine jails on other planes of existence? I think not.

[arkimote06]

how do you find this movie Insidious?
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it's very predictable and I can relate but somewhat disappointed well movies are like that all the time. Maybe there will be a part 2 and they should hire erin the next time.

[Pietko]

Firstly, I think that main problems arose from us... We bring our fears and they materialize there...
Secondarily, if there are some violent creatures in astral, they could attack you only if you give them permission (unconsciously, you think, you fear, and then you get what you are asking for). Best thing you can do is to be unattached observer like by meditations.

[MissKriss]

i had this happen to me when i was about 5 or 6 - that's when i first started astral travelling - i didn't know what i was doing at the time - i just knew i would become lucid in a dream, i would be outside of my house - it started off where i would program myself to believe i could fly - then i would be levitating at controlled speeds, and soon i was flying all over my hometown of illinois -

well it really started because i was having so many nightmares - i would have these falling nightmares - like alice in wonderland except the "rabbits hole" was this horrific hellish type place - with pain and horror all over the "walls" deep red in color - etc, so that was where i had to first program myself -i would scream STOP- as in stop falling! then i could program myself GET OUT OF HERE - etc..

so after that when i was back on the earth realm and flying all over illinois.. i remember having one dream where i was flying all over these corn fields (common in illinois lol) and i saw this HORRIFIC being - it was a shadow being running through the corn fields - i was a little kid so i had limited knowledge of things, but this being gave me a vibe that it had hurt several other beings, including children, in horrible ways, and was in this sort of idiotic state where it was going to keep doing those things, and i needed to get out of there fast before it saw me - i was a little kid not able to fight this being

but when i woke up i said to myself - that's it no more of this no more remembering my dreams etc - i had a few lucid dreams after that but for the most part i shut it down

anyway this is amazing advice and since as an adult i believe in things like self defense especially psychically - yet it's also amazing to read advice that basically says get out of there if you can - although it would be nice to be able to take care of some of these beings in order to help protect others and make the astral plane safe for all!

great advice!!!! great article!

[Fred Tracy]

I've been there a couple times, mostly on accident. I've always been a bit worried about encountering something scary out there, which ironically will probably increase my chances that it will happen. Thanks for letting us know Erin.. I'll check it out.

[alphamind]

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